Indeed, and honestly I don't really see any alternatives here, if they do sharing I think they will do either permanent, or rather short term sharing, with like a month being the maximum, and I don't think the system will allow un-sharing without setting the AirTag up from scratch.
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Or get creative. I’m a baseball fan. Cut a baseball apart.
I'm not sure if the snarky response was sarcastic or not, but it would appear that either of these would cause all kinds of other issues. As far as I can tell, Apple has removed the ability to log in to Find My using any account other than the device's main iCloud account. So you have sign your entire device out and back in, including all the prompts for enabling services (I tried this to check). It's not really viable.
The website doesn't work either, as it doesn't include the new Items category.
You should have invested in samsung smart tags plus and ecosystem. It actually has a hole in it for key rings. Make like the rest,drill a hole in the side rim of it
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They are just as much as the air tags,$29. Rather wait for allie express,much cheaper
Impressed by that "Panic" button - will it make the car play meditative music
I sewed mine into my wallet - perfectly integrated and invisible
May as well just pay to have the van key fob replaced! I’d need to stick 3 trackers on it!
It’s an interesting feature they have omitted. Really hope it comes out when they release AirTags with the M1
chip and mini LED in 2022. Queue the “should I buy now or wait” threads!
I understand, but nothing is stopping the parents from taking the kids phone, and approving the AirTags without their consent.
If family sharing allows the kid to remove the tag then great, AirTags those house keys.
I did buy a 4-pack of these things, but the lack of foresight to get this right out of the gate is kind of stupefying. They sat on these things for YEARS.
As a workaround, AppleCare told me that a second person can access the Airtag if they log into iCloud>FindMy on the browser, using the Apple ID of the Airtag admin. I tried this trick. I logged into my own iCloud account on Safari with my own iPhone...but I did not see the Airtags listed under FindMy.
No kidding - The fact that there is nothing to attach the tags usefully to ANYTHING out of the box was Strike 1. Strike 2 was the fact that any of the Apple "accessory" holders cost as much or more than the tags themselves. Strike 3 is the lack of Family Sharing support. At this moment I will assume that Family Sharing will be added at some point but overall I am very disappointed in Apple. As a Family we spend more than 2% of our annual income on Apple products or services (ridiculous I know) so I expect Apple to step up their game, provide features that they obviously have the ability to do as soon as possible or I will only sing songs of disgust
So to properly track my dog, and allow my two daughters and my wife to also be able to track him incase he gets away at the park or something, he needs to wear all four AirTags on his collar? LoL
Just discovered this issue. We have multiple foster kids at our house - we have two electric-assist bicycles for them to use that I just put AirTags on. It's kind of annoying that they can't keep tabs on the bikes when THEY have them out and about - without doing the "deregister/reregister" dance. Which I don't want to do, since I want to always be able to have access, just "temporarily grant" access to other people when they're using the bikes.
Apple's second chance has been mostly to single-user use cases and hence their multi-user features tend to degrade by every release.
- The iPod is a single-user device. One can't easily share 80-160GB of music between multiple iTunes accounts and each person having their own music and playlists.
- The iPhone is a single-user device. It makes sense since its' a mobile phone at this point.
- The iPad started as an extension of the iPhone's operating system and after 10 years still hasn't gain multi-user support.
- macOS (X) was multi-user but its multi-user feature gets broken with each enhancement.
- Support for disk quotas has been broken since Catalina (and the sealed system volume).
- Un-fixed vulnerabilities in macOS multi-user case, (Sample 1) and (Sample 2).
- Automation Mode Overlay makes the console useless whenever there's a background process that runs automation.
- tvOS would best be multi-user, but support has been lack-luster thus far. There's not even a way to secure different user profiles.
- HomeKit doesn't really work beyond a small apartment populated by a child-less adult couple—mostly with regard to needing a hub that has no multi-user capability.
So that's why they killed their server software and systems. Apple wants people to say 'GET YOUR OWN DAMNED xxxx!!!'?
I'm a little bit confused by your post. The article you linked to is extreme individualism, which is by definition is different than American individualism.
I will give you that Silicon Valley is currently an example of extreme individualism. Extreme individualism is often destructive, especially now that it is being forced in to our mainstream culture. This results in the destruction of the nuclear family because "my beliefs (realities) trump all others," etc. Extreme individualism thrives on division at every opportunity and encourages continuous conflict where there once was none, or very little. The average American does not fall in to this category.
American Individualism is a good thing. It allows us to ask ourselves what skill and abilities do I have, and how can I use them to better my status in life by utilizing them to serve the needs of others, who are willing to spend their capital on the products/goods/services that I can provide.
That's what made America go from worst to first in such an unprecedented short amount of time.
It sounds that you’re an American—from the knee-jerk reaction of defending The US’ style of individualism. If you took the time to click-through the article and into Hofstede’s research, you can see that the US is among the extremities of the individualist countries of the world.
Sure the US is a large country and arguably a country of countries due to its federal system. Hence when zoomed in could show the different kinds of individualism. Nevertheless mobility between states are relatively unrestricted (notably pre-pandemic), hence performing such study state-by-state would create data that gets stale easily.
Back to the original topic, Apple’s systems are inherently bad at multi-users since the original Mac. Perhaps there’s a vestige of multi-user coming from NeXT, but that have not been maintained properly. Maybe it’s Apple, maybe it’s general Silicon Valley, or maybe it’s general American—I wouldn’t know, I’m don’t delve into such studies. In any case, Apple does not command exclusive employments of engineers—and I have seen language that’s normally reserved for Windows systems to be used in Apple’s SDK docs (e.g. “DLL”), denoting that at least the technical writer came from the Windows world.
I can only think of Ubuntu as the only other end-user system nowadays that’s not coming from the US. It started in South Africa and now incorporated in the UK. It’s multi-user support is quite solid, the last time I check.
PS: there is no such thing as the average American. As studied by Americans.
PS 2: Even the word American enforces the US’ sense of self-supremacy (read: individualism). There are two sub-continents that makes up The Americas, the northern one shared by three countries and the southern one by even more. Yet the word American became synonymous with “A USA Citizen”.
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Sounds like you are not an American judging that individualism is a bad thing. I did read through the article thank you, and as I mentioned there is a difference between extreme individualism and individualism. Just because America is more individualistic than most other countries does not make it "extreme" and that is my point.
And while I'm not here to write a paper on American exceptionalism, it is easy to say "there is no average American" when you cherry pick a trait or two. Unlike any other country we have people from around the world come here. Bringing pieces of their culture with them. That is why America was called the melting pot, generally taking the best of what each culture has to offer.
Getting back to the subject at hand, my Commodore VIC 20 was a single user experience. It was discontinued in 1985. NEXT was introduced in 1988. At the time it was near impossible to dedicate machine resources for an individual experience. Air Tags is using 1980's methodology with 2020 technology.
Not necessarily a tech limitation. Tile is able to share a tile between more than one user. It’s Apple’s conscious decision to prioritize the singe-user case. Just like how it breaks many of macOS’ multi-user experience and never properly provide multiple profiles accross its iOS-derived products.
Is it individualism? Perhaps. Is it short-sightedness derived from an individualistic culture? Likely.