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Al Gore Joins Apple's Board
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The reason that Gore does not make a good board member is not his political party or the circus that was the last election. He polarizes people : pro-Gore, anti-Gore.
Does Larry Elison do this? Not to the same degree, and even if people don't like Elison, they don't hold it against Apple. Not so with Al Gore.
Al Gore was part of a committee (possibly the head) that recommended that the network connecting universities, government facilities and defense companies, be opened to the public, making the internet. He didn't invent the internet, and he did say it in an interview. But even Bush stammers and says things incorrectly when interviewed without a script.
Does Larry Elison do this? Not to the same degree, and even if people don't like Elison, they don't hold it against Apple. Not so with Al Gore.
Al Gore was part of a committee (possibly the head) that recommended that the network connecting universities, government facilities and defense companies, be opened to the public, making the internet. He didn't invent the internet, and he did say it in an interview. But even Bush stammers and says things incorrectly when interviewed without a script.
RBMaraman
macrumors 65816
Nice move Apple!
Very interesting news. I think this is a good move by Apple.
All you people who think Al Gore is an idiot need to read the book "The Prince Of Tennessee." It's a very interesting biography done by a very Republican author. Even the author admits that Gore is extermly intelligent and has great business sense. Besides, Harvard doesn't exactly let idiots in.
Sure, Gore has made some dumb statements and mistakes. But hey! We all have! And don't even say you've never said or done anything stupid. Stupidity is human nature. The only reason Gore's screwups have made it into the press is because he's a public figure. How would you like it if the New York Times started airing your dirty secrets? You wouldn't, and we shouldn't attack Gore because he's made some of the same mistakes you have.
This is a very interesting addition to one of the worst Boards in corporate history. Hopefully Gore's addition will move Apple off of "The worst boards of directors in the world" lists.
Very interesting news. I think this is a good move by Apple.
All you people who think Al Gore is an idiot need to read the book "The Prince Of Tennessee." It's a very interesting biography done by a very Republican author. Even the author admits that Gore is extermly intelligent and has great business sense. Besides, Harvard doesn't exactly let idiots in.
Sure, Gore has made some dumb statements and mistakes. But hey! We all have! And don't even say you've never said or done anything stupid. Stupidity is human nature. The only reason Gore's screwups have made it into the press is because he's a public figure. How would you like it if the New York Times started airing your dirty secrets? You wouldn't, and we shouldn't attack Gore because he's made some of the same mistakes you have.
This is a very interesting addition to one of the worst Boards in corporate history. Hopefully Gore's addition will move Apple off of "The worst boards of directors in the world" lists.
Al Gore said he took one of the initiatives to invent the internet. And, in reality, he did. It's not a lie. He wasn't the only person, but without him the internet may not be anything close to as great as what it is today.
This is a great day for Apple.
This is a great day for Apple.
alset
macrumors 65816
When I was a kid my family lived in TN. My father was on the board of an environmental-cleanup campaign with Al Gore. He has assured me, many times, that Gore was a very intelligent man, and quite capable of displaying strong leadership skills.
I'm not taking sides on this one until I see more info, but I do want to point out that the mac is not a fool. Apple has it's reasons.
Dan
Good God Please: NO!!!
I am a shareholder and I received no opportunity to vote on this. What good is a politician on the board? We barely got any use out of Larry Ellison! Now we'll have another lazy has-been sucking at Apple's teats. Instead, why not hire someone who's been relentlessly successful at what they do?
Apple: please pull your head out and undo this monstrous distraction. Focus! Stick to hiring great minds to make great systems. Jeez, this is worse than making Sinbad an Apple Fellow.
I am neither a conservative nor a liberal (nor a theist for that matter). This would be just as stupid if GW, or any Libertarian candidate had been tapped. Businessmen should run businesses. They're good at it.
This is a BAD sign. This means Apple has truly given up economic entrepreneurship and is going down the dark path of political entrepreneurship. I have never doubted Apple before, through the darkest days. Now almost all my hope is lost. And they've done it themselves.
I assure you that I will be using my shares to oppose this. I encourage all fellow shareholders to join me in ousting this non-entity from Apple's bridge.
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I am a shareholder and I received no opportunity to vote on this. What good is a politician on the board? We barely got any use out of Larry Ellison! Now we'll have another lazy has-been sucking at Apple's teats. Instead, why not hire someone who's been relentlessly successful at what they do?
Apple: please pull your head out and undo this monstrous distraction. Focus! Stick to hiring great minds to make great systems. Jeez, this is worse than making Sinbad an Apple Fellow.
I am neither a conservative nor a liberal (nor a theist for that matter). This would be just as stupid if GW, or any Libertarian candidate had been tapped. Businessmen should run businesses. They're good at it.
This is a BAD sign. This means Apple has truly given up economic entrepreneurship and is going down the dark path of political entrepreneurship. I have never doubted Apple before, through the darkest days. Now almost all my hope is lost. And they've done it themselves.
I assure you that I will be using my shares to oppose this. I encourage all fellow shareholders to join me in ousting this non-entity from Apple's bridge.
-B...
RBMaraman
macrumors 65816
Re: Re: Nice move Apple!
I didn't say it made it true. I was simply saying that even people who don't like or support the guy acknowledge that he's an intelligent human being.
On a side note, the full statement about Gore creating the internet was incorrect. Media outlets cutoff the last few words. His actual statement was, "I took the initiative in creating the internet funding legislation."
I didn't say it made it true. I was simply saying that even people who don't like or support the guy acknowledge that he's an intelligent human being.
On a side note, the full statement about Gore creating the internet was incorrect. Media outlets cutoff the last few words. His actual statement was, "I took the initiative in creating the internet funding legislation."
lmalave
macrumors 68000
Re: Re: It's a myth...
Creating is more synonymous with "building" than with "inventing". I have to say, as an electrical engineering student in the early 90's, I heard about the "Information Superhighway" first from Al Gore than from any tech source. At the time most people even in the tech field (including myself) thought the "Information Superhighway" was an intriguing idea, but kind of a weird obsession for someone to have. Well, history proved Gore right.
Al Gore was a passionate advocate of building out what we now know as the Internet (not the ARPANet that preceded it). So yes, he took the initiative in "creating the internet". The fact that something that he should have taken credit for got turned into a joke just shows how formidable the Republican spin machine is. As a liberal it pains me to say it, but the Dems are getting totally outclassed when it comes to controlling the message of a campaign. I mean it's like pros vs. amateurs at this point 🙁
Creating is more synonymous with "building" than with "inventing". I have to say, as an electrical engineering student in the early 90's, I heard about the "Information Superhighway" first from Al Gore than from any tech source. At the time most people even in the tech field (including myself) thought the "Information Superhighway" was an intriguing idea, but kind of a weird obsession for someone to have. Well, history proved Gore right.
Al Gore was a passionate advocate of building out what we now know as the Internet (not the ARPANet that preceded it). So yes, he took the initiative in "creating the internet". The fact that something that he should have taken credit for got turned into a joke just shows how formidable the Republican spin machine is. As a liberal it pains me to say it, but the Dems are getting totally outclassed when it comes to controlling the message of a campaign. I mean it's like pros vs. amateurs at this point 🙁
Dont Hurt Me
macrumors 603
I think this will be good for apple as long as he still has his beard! If he is clean shaven well that a whole nother matter.
Re: The internet as we know it?
My father's friend's father was one of the core engineers who developed the copper transistor. Al Gore doesn't even have that much, as far as I see. He made sure money was appropriated so that another entirely separate group of people could have their idea of the Internet network made widespread. If that means he made an initiative to invent (in the strict, common sense of the word) the internet, then I made an initiative to invent the copper transistor. Simply being on a committee to make sure a budget was well-defined does not make you the inventor. I've gotta run, but somebody may want to grab a Merriam-Webster definition of invent.
[edit] I thought I remembered the quote saying "I made an initiative in inventing the internet..." so much of that is irrelevant. [/edit]
Frankly, I think this is a bad move by Apple... I'm not going to say that Al Gore is stupid because he isn't. In reality, he is intelligent, as is George W. Bush. As somebody said, Harvard doesn't let morons in. GWB has a MBA from Harvard. I don't remember the exact credentials, but I think the article said Al Gore got his B.A. from Harvard. I don't think Al Gore is right for Apple, i mean when I read that this is the first private board he's been on, that doesn't make me feel flattered, it makes me think he doesn't know what he'll be doing! The appointment is a show job... he's there for his name.
Haha! Thus, he was the key player who made it happen, because he was on a committee that made sure money moved.
My father's friend's father was one of the core engineers who developed the copper transistor. Al Gore doesn't even have that much, as far as I see. He made sure money was appropriated so that another entirely separate group of people could have their idea of the Internet network made widespread. If that means he made an initiative to invent (in the strict, common sense of the word) the internet, then I made an initiative to invent the copper transistor. Simply being on a committee to make sure a budget was well-defined does not make you the inventor. I've gotta run, but somebody may want to grab a Merriam-Webster definition of invent.
[edit] I thought I remembered the quote saying "I made an initiative in inventing the internet..." so much of that is irrelevant. [/edit]
Frankly, I think this is a bad move by Apple... I'm not going to say that Al Gore is stupid because he isn't. In reality, he is intelligent, as is George W. Bush. As somebody said, Harvard doesn't let morons in. GWB has a MBA from Harvard. I don't remember the exact credentials, but I think the article said Al Gore got his B.A. from Harvard. I don't think Al Gore is right for Apple, i mean when I read that this is the first private board he's been on, that doesn't make me feel flattered, it makes me think he doesn't know what he'll be doing! The appointment is a show job... he's there for his name.
lmalave
macrumors 68000
The exact words Gore used were "creating the internet". The words you used above were "making the internet". Uh, aren't "creating" and "making" more ore less the same thing? It's the Republican spin machine that make a joke out of it, as part of their admittedly brilliantly executed "Gore is a fibber" disinformation campaign.
Dont Hurt Me
macrumors 603
shadowfax
macrumors 603
what? not even remotely. why do you have to politicize computer usage? the fact that a liberal is on the board of directors has not one bit to do with the quality or usability of this work of art that is the mac, and anyone who thinks so deserves to be stuck on their windows box, 'cos lord knows only conservatives use windows 🙄.
were you trying to suggest that, or did i totally misread you? i'm not trying to flame too bad 😉
That's the problem with Al Gore. Having been born in Washington DC (not Tennessee) as the son of a senator, he has lived pretty much all of his life outside the real world.
Re: You have to be kidding me!!!
Well in any way it's obvious that your dog even outsmarts you. judging by this comment.
Well in any way it's obvious that your dog even outsmarts you. judging by this comment.
simX
macrumors 6502a
Re: Good God Please: NO!!!
Let me first start off by saying, no, Gore did not lose the election. Gore got over half a million more votes than Bush did, yet our "democracy" dictates that Bush becomes the president. Furthermore, if Republicans HAD NOT DENIED MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN FLORIDA FROM VOTING, Gore would have won the election because of those votes. Last but not least, Gore actually DID get the majority of the votes in Florida, except the Supreme Court (in their infinite wisdom) blocked the recounts. The election was tainted because of these many issues, and our current "President" of the United States was not a "democratically" elected one.
Now for the quote above: give me a big fat freakin' break. You have not even given Al Gore one day on Apple's board of directors, and yet somehow you reach a conclusion based on mythical evidence that Gore will not be good for Apple's board. I'm not taking sides on this issue just yet, but don't we owe it to any human being to give them a chance before making judgment?
This is in stark contrast to our current "President" of the United States, who has been given two years in office and he's ignoring what the people want by going to war. He's been given a chance, and so we have the right to make a judgment.
I don't care if you're a republican, democrat, a member of the Green party, or that mythical race called "compassionate conservatives". Sorry, I will not be convinced by your little whining rant on Al Gore that he is not a suitable director for Apple. Thanks, I'll let Gore have a chance.
Let me first start off by saying, no, Gore did not lose the election. Gore got over half a million more votes than Bush did, yet our "democracy" dictates that Bush becomes the president. Furthermore, if Republicans HAD NOT DENIED MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN FLORIDA FROM VOTING, Gore would have won the election because of those votes. Last but not least, Gore actually DID get the majority of the votes in Florida, except the Supreme Court (in their infinite wisdom) blocked the recounts. The election was tainted because of these many issues, and our current "President" of the United States was not a "democratically" elected one.
Now for the quote above: give me a big fat freakin' break. You have not even given Al Gore one day on Apple's board of directors, and yet somehow you reach a conclusion based on mythical evidence that Gore will not be good for Apple's board. I'm not taking sides on this issue just yet, but don't we owe it to any human being to give them a chance before making judgment?
This is in stark contrast to our current "President" of the United States, who has been given two years in office and he's ignoring what the people want by going to war. He's been given a chance, and so we have the right to make a judgment.
I don't care if you're a republican, democrat, a member of the Green party, or that mythical race called "compassionate conservatives". Sorry, I will not be convinced by your little whining rant on Al Gore that he is not a suitable director for Apple. Thanks, I'll let Gore have a chance.
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