Alienware custom built vs. Macbook Pro

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  1. waywardsage macrumors 6502

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    Anyone want to take a shot at this? Who thinks which is a better, faster, more usefull machine for video editing, graphics editing?

    Alienware computers sport some pretty sexy specs, and they're very attractive. Would they be useful for video editing and graphics work? Are they faster than the best Macbook Pro's?

    Please state your reasons.
     
  2. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Yeah, for me if it wont run OSX then I wont consider it.
     
  5. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    yes i agree. if it doesnt run osx (properly) i wont buy it.

    personal preference really.
     
  6. waywardsage thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I know OS X is great. I'm from the PC world. I don't own a Mac yet. I'm just curious how Macbook Pro's stack up to a performance PC Notebook.
     
  7. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    they are completely in the opposite fields!!! the mbp gpu doesnt stack up to 2x7950s!!!! battery life is waaay better tho, the experience is way better. cauz of osx :p
     
  8. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Once again...

    Gaming Laptop Vs. Performance Mobile

    Why don't you check some benchmarks?
     
  9. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    In the end, the question is what software you wish to use.

    I only use the Mac because I could not find comparable tools for Windows that performed video editing as well as iLife '06 did.

    On Windows, I tried every single program on the market for capturing video and burning it to DVD. And, the PC's specs were pretty high.

    And, between $0 and $1500, I could not find a single Windows-based program that would capture video without dropping frames, or introduce artifacts into the captured video, or produce dimly lit videos when burned to DVD, or produce stutters in the motion video when the DVD was burned (stutters that were not present in the program's preview).

    Almost every Windows program came really, really close. Only one or two of them produced all the symptoms described above. Most of the programs only produced one of the symptoms I mentioned above.

    The problem, is that I couldn't find a single program that would do the job from beginning to end without some defect being present.

    It didn't matter how much money I threw at it. I just couldn't get a program at any cost that would perform the job as well and as flawlessly as iLife '06 did at the time.

    Fortunately, my losses were minimized by making pre-purchase agreements with the vendors / software publishers. I had it in writing that if the program didn't perform to my demands, I would get a full refund. And, all but one of them honored the deal. For that last one, my credit card company assisted in the refund.

    In the end, I went back to using a Mac solely for iLife '06.

    If the program you need is available in Windows, then I would say just buy whatever machine you like and best matches your budget.
     
  10. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    When it comes to 3d graphics performance the bulky, hot, heavy and downright ugly Alienware is much faster. Other than that, the MacBook Pro will be faster. The Alienware laptops are based on the older Napa platform whereas the MBP are using the newer Santa Rosa.
     
  11. waywardsage thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I was just curious if the specs on Alienware for gaming would be helpful for video editing. For the guy who tried "every video editing program for PC" did you try Avid Media Composer? That would be the best PC video editing program.
     
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  13. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    How would they be significantly different?
     
  14. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    Of course as others have said it depends on your software choice. I prefer Vegas, which is why I edit on Windows despite having FCP.

    But Alienware? It's that head on the back which bothers me. Alienware does a pretty nice (non-Santa Rosa right now) system at the moment in terms of specs - the M9750, which would work great as a still-portable power desktop replacement that would comfortably outpace the MBP in a number of areas, but it's that head. Only a 9 year old could love that head. I mean... I don't mind an alien something motif, but the core of the design strikes me as a bit childish and a bit 90's. If they changed it up a bit I might be keener to consider what they have to offer, especially as Alienware seem to be more inclined/able to offer different hardware to the 'me-too' boutique builders out there.
     
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    As others have said, you neither need our consent nor our blessing to buy whatever the heck you want. That said, why would you come to a Mac board expecting expertise on Windows-based hardware, and not just that but highly-specific expertise on some random model of some manufacturer's product?

    I'm not saying we here at MacRumors.com aren't savvy about a great many things -- because we most definitely are -- but imagine going to some Windows-based notebook message board and asking them Mac-specific questions. Of course, I have a feeling you already know precisely how such a conversation would go.

    In any event, remember that most of us here don't use Macs just for the benefit of one or two programs. We use Macs -- or, rather we don't use Windows -- because we prefer the Mac platform overall. Some of us have been using Macs since long before Microsoft produced an OS viable for our own personal and/or professional endeavors (say, back in the joyous days of MS-DOS and pre-Pentium I hardware) and have, obviously, never seen fit to switch.

    By all means, use the best tool for the job. That's just simply Common Sense 101. But don't try to put the responsibility/liability/guilt on others for a decision that's ultimately yours -- and yours alone -- to make.
     
  16. Freyqq macrumors 68040

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    alienware is a 10+ pound desktop replacement with short battery life

    mbp is fast, but not as fast as the alienware. It is also 5.4 pounds with a relatively long battery.

    If you're going to be tied to a desk, you might as well get a desktop if you're going to go for a 10+ pound laptop. It isn't really a laptop anymore if it's that heavy.
     
  17. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    Yes, I did try Avid's program. And, that was actually one of the more promising ones. But, it seems that I ran into an export issue with that one. It's been a while, so I can't remember exactly what the issue was with that one specifically.

    I tried so many programs, that with the time that has since passed, I find that they all blur together. The only ones I remember now are the ones that came very close to perfect (but still had a snag).
     
  18. waywardsage thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Doesn't the Macbook Pro 17" weigh in the neighborhood of 7 lbs?

    I'm not trying to anger anyone or ruffle feathers. Just promoting a debate on the marits of differen't systems. I like Mac. I plan on buying a macbook pro when they switch the 17" to LED backlit screens and it comes preinstalled with Leopard.
     
  19. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    Yes, the 17" is about 7lbs, but guess what? It's a 17"!!! Anytime you start to have large screens, the weight will increase. The 17" still manages to be thin, and it's weight is well distributed. I don't think an Alienware 17" would be anything around 7lbs, and I doubt it would be an inch thin.
     
  20. Freyqq macrumors 68040

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    even so..it weighs less than any other 17" laptop I can think of
     
  21. Helfeather macrumors member

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    I would get Alienware cause of gaming/specs. I could care less about the OS.
     
  22. deadpixels macrumors 6502a

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    the man want to do video work, FCP and MBPro is the best choice.
     
  23. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    The equivalent Alienware notebook is, in it's defence, only a pound or so heavier depending on spec yet offers a notably more heavyweight performance. It does cost more of course if you start decking it out - but it does offer more expandability including the ability to RAID0 7200rpm drives, a superior GPU (no point in SLIing for video editing AFAIK) despite it being a 7-series, and onsite support (I believe the joys of going down to your local Apple Store are overrated).

    Still, that head - and I'd wait for it to be replaced by a Santa Rosa machine if you're thinking about buying.
     
  24. chaosbunny macrumors 68000

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    You didn't mention if you just want it for said graphic/video editing or if you are interested in games too.

    Another question imo is, do you plan to work with the machine as a professional or is it just a hobby? If you plan to enter the business it certainly won't hurt to know/learn OS X, since its more or less industry standard especially in the graphic field for numerous reasons.

    So if it's for hobby video/graphic work it comes down to personal preference – OS X vs. Windows + design of the machine, if it's for gaming too I'd probably get the alienware, if you want to get into the business I'd get the mbp.
     
  25. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    A high-specc'ed Alienware will crush a MacBook Pro in gaming, and anything that makes heavy use of the GPU. The MacBook Pro is a powerful yet truly mobile computer, whereas the Alienware is pretty much tethered to its power cord, gets hot and (IMHO) has pretty juvenile, in-your-face styling.
     

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