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fisherking

fisherking

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anyone else find this useless? i put the calendar widget on my homescreen so i could have an overview of the day's events, but "2 Events" tells me nothing.,, which defeats the purpose of using the widget.

thoughts?

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TWO items show correctly for today, but tomorrow has TWO all-day events, and shows as above. adding a 3rd all-day event for tomorrow has the widget showing "3 Events". so (on my phone, at least), this seems by design. you don't see this for the coming day?...
 
anyone? if you have more than one all-day event for the coming day, do they show? or are you seeing this (ie, "2 Events")..?
 
fisherking said:
anyone? if you have more than one all-day event for the coming day, do they show? or are you seeing this (ie, "2 Events")..?
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I see all of my events that will fit on the screen and then at the bottom of the list it says "2 more events". Perhaps the text in your events is too long to display all of them?
 
hmm. i made 2 entries for today "test1" & "test2". rebooted my phone (just to be sure the widget refreshed). and i get this. anyway, will see how this goes thru the betas....

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It’s probably by design. Imagine you would have 5 all day events tomorrow, you wouldn’t see what your first appointment of tomorrow would be, because it would only show all day events.

I guess it depends on how you use all day events for it to become an annoyance. For me, regular events are far more important than all day events, so I would prefer the current setup.
 
apple, not much into offering options, could offer an option: show x number of all-day events in the widget (something like that). so it goes.

sidenote; when i click on a widget's name (& don't see why they're there in the first place), seems it should open that app (ie 'calendar').

still, widgets r fun!
 
Yeah an option would be great, especially as the way calendars are used is so specific to the user.

I can't wait for iOS 14 to be released so I can finally use those widgets :)
 
fisherking said:
apple, not much into offering options, could offer an option: show x number of all-day events in the widget (something like that). so it goes.

sidenote; when i click on a widget's name (& don't see why they're there in the first place), seems it should open that app (ie 'calendar').

still, widgets r fun!
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I recently made a list of such more advanced calendar widgets. It's so bizarre that all the 'big' calendar apps don't offer such functionality in their widgets.

The apps that offer iOS14 homescreen widget and can show multiple days or even weeks ahead (depending on the amount of appointment in the upcoming days so e.g. events calendar):

- Widget Wizard - (as also suggested by Twitter users to Federico Viticci from MacStories)
- DayHub - Up Next Widget (just launched and still needs some further features but free without ads)
- Calendar 366: Events & Tasks
- WidgetCal-Calendar Widget

These ones (for now) only still offer classic widget support (iOS8 and up):
- Agenda: Widget+ (my favorite no longer in the App Store, but if you bought it you can still get it from your purchased items)
- Widget Calendar: Easy&Simple

See also my 'Calendar widgets with data weeks/months ahead' list I'm maintaining on AppRaven.

screenshot: Agenda: Widget+
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pacorob said:
These ones (for now) only still offer classic widget support (iOS8 and up):
- Agenda: Widget+ (my favorite no longer in the App Store, but if you bought it you can still get it from your purchased items)
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Didn't realize that was no longer available. It's definitely one of the best calendar widgets in my opinion (along with the related Reminder+ widget for reminders).
 
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As someone who subscribes to multiple shared calendars (for my kids' schools, etc) which use all day events liberally, I actually think it's the right design choice to prioritize timed appointments on the widget. For example, I had 8 all day events listed yesterday and I'd much rather see my timed appointments on the widget.
 
pacorob said:
I recently made a list of such more advanced calendar widgets. It's so bizarre that all the 'big' calendar apps don't offer such functionality in their widgets.

The apps that offer iOS14 homescreen widget and can show multiple days or even weeks ahead (depending on the amount of appointment in the upcoming days so e.g. events calendar):

- Widget Wizard - (as also suggested by Twitter users to Federico Viticci from MacStories)
- DayHub - Up Next Widget (just launched and still needs some further features but free without ads)

These ones (for now) only still offer classic widget support (iOS8 and up):
- Agenda: Widget+ (my favorite no longer in the App Store, but if you bought it you can still get it from your purchased items)
- Widget Calendar: Easy&Simple

See also my 'Calendar widgets with data weeks/months ahead' list I'm maintaining on AppRaven.
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i have widget wizard; good idea, but ugly (and, for me anyway, that matters). will check out 'dayhub'.

either way, great post! and thanks for the info...

EDIT: does dayhub work with apple's calendar? i see entries only when i click on the widget (in a new window). otherwise it just shows the date and the word "DayHub" in the middle of the widget (i did reboot)....
 
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deuxani said:
It’s probably by design. Imagine you would have 5 all day events tomorrow, you wouldn’t see what your first appointment of tomorrow would be, because it would only show all day events.

I guess it depends on how you use all day events for it to become an annoyance. For me, regular events are far more important than all day events, so I would prefer the current setup.
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I think you have nailed the reasoning by Apple.
 
fisherking said:
not useful if we put important things in all-day events, as i do (ie: vote, pay rent, save goldfish... whatever).
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I started to add things of that nature as reminders rather than all-day calendar events (or sometimes basically as both).
 
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C DM said:
I started to add things of that nature as reminders rather than all-day calendar events (or sometimes basically as both).
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hmm. i have never used the reminders app; i prefer to use either an all-date event or to actually schedule things i need to do. anyway, wish there were options, but apple has never been about options...
 
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ucfgrad93 said:
Personally, I use a to-do list app for those sorts of things. YMMV.
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i prefer to keep everything simple, and in one place. plus, i find that when i schedule something, it generally gets done. but we all have our way of organizing our lives, so.... whatever works. 👍
 
fisherking said:
i have widget wizard; good idea, but ugly (and, for me anyway, that matters). will check out 'dayhub'.

either way, great post! and thanks for the info...

EDIT: does dayhub work with apple's calendar? i see entries only when i click on the widget (in a new window). otherwise it just shows the date and the word "DayHub" in the middle of the widget (i did reboot)....
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I think it should. Do reach out to the developer. He is pretty quick in his response (on e-mail at least).
I use Google Calendar that syncs with my Apple calendar app which then it it's turn shows in apps and widgets such as DayHub. It works fine for me.

I did ask the developer to add some features/improve it further:

- Remove the header with the current date 'wed 21' (since it is currentlyWednesday 21st of October) which doesn't make sense since it shows above all appointments including the ones in upcoming days.
- Change the font color of the day and time. I would like to see the date and time in a different color so it’s better to read especially in Dark Mode. Currently grey in black doesn’t work. Also the size of the date and time could be bigger. Either give the user the option or decide on a standard yourself.
- Add the option to indicate not only the day name 'Saturday' but also show the date so 'Saturday 24 Oct. or 'Monday 1 Nov.'
- I would love to see also buttons in the middle and bigger sized widgets to add an appointment in the calendar it or add a reminder with a click of a button
- With the middle sized widget I’m setting appointments up until Saturday but not my appointments from Monday (6 days ahead) while there is still room on the right hand sized two show two of these.
With that it seems there is a limitation in amount of days. I hope that limitation can be removed.
- Show travel time to a destination which my former widget could do: Agenda: Widget+ but that is no longer offered in the App Store nor does the existing widget work in iOS 14 or iOS 14.1 this might be a cool Pro feature to implement and work with the popular calendars such as Google Calendar (which I also use) or Apple’s own.

Btw I've added two other apps in my earlier post and AppRaven list (see also these two below). I especially like the clean UI of Calendar 366 but I haven't purchased it yet. Also the two widgets that shows a list only shows 3 appointment so it seems (based on screenshots in App Store). I've reached out to the developer if he could also create a widget to have 2 columns of only list view of calendar appointments (without the current date or month calendar in the widget. I'm also not sure if it will show all day events in the widget (although I have seen screenshots on Twitter with the old today view widget is able to). If so I might purchase it for the 6.99 euro it costs.

Also Fantastical calendar widget also offers an options of appointment in a list although it forces to show todays date even if there is no appointment in it and I see alot of empty space where another appointment from 4 days ahead could be. The UI and weather feature from AccuWeather is pretty cool though.



The other app WidgetCal has a week calendar option but the UI is pretty ugly and doesn't show much details in the widget so not an options I think.

- Calendar 366: Events & Tasks
- Fantastical
- WidgetCal-Calendar Widget

screenshots Calendar366 widgets:

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screenshot Fantastical:

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C DM said:
I started to add things of that nature as reminders rather than all-day calendar events (or sometimes basically as both).
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Thanks for the suggestion I will look into that option as well. I prefer my calendar over reminders or alarm clocks though.

fisherking said:
i prefer to keep everything simple, and in one place. plus, i find that when i schedule something, it generally gets done. but we all have our way of organizing our lives, so.... whatever works. 👍
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I also prefer my calendar as one stop shop over having it in calendar, reminders and alarm clocks. My wife also recently pointed out to me if I could remove a few things (e.g. pick up the kids from school and such) from the calendar and instead set some alarm clocks for that. I did in the end.
 
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I stopped using all day events in the main and actually have a start time and end time for everything and then it shows.
 
i find the all-day events useful for some things, that don't need to be scheduled (ie 'fedex due this week'. or 'backup mac'. also where i have birthdays etc listed.
 
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