ALL iCloud Backups have been erased by beta

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by Steve.P.JobsFan, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. Steve.P.JobsFan macrumors 6502a

    Steve.P.JobsFan

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    Went to downgrade to iOS 8.3, and noticed I suddenly went from 500 MB of iCloud storage space to 11.4 GB.

    Went into settings... Only to find my iPhone backups totaled "0 KB" and they've all been erased. The only device shown with backups in iCloud (when viewing from my iPad on 8.3)... Is my iPad.

    All my iPhone backups since September are gone.
     
  2. BittenApple macrumors 6502a

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  3. Lobwedgephil macrumors 68030

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    Think that was mentioned in release notes as a possibility.
     
  4. aPple nErd macrumors 68030

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    Yeah mine were erased too... Good thing I backed up to iTunes before updating because I had to downgrade.
     
  5. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    That is why you should never install a beta on your daily driver. Things like this will happen; sometimes.
     
  6. PowerBook-G5 macrumors 65816

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    Do you mean that only the backups for the device with the beta installed were deleted?
     
  7. mattlqx macrumors newbie

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    I had an interesting backup experience with the beta.

    I installed beta1 and let it restore from iCloud. It stalled after 19 apps, even after a wipe and re-attempt.

    I set beta1 up as a new phone. My 8.3 backup that I tried to restore from was instantly no longer available (as seen on "Manage Storage", even on other devices), even though I hadn't yet made a backup on 9.0.

    I figured that was that and used the phone for a days until I couldn't stand the battery life issues. So I downgraded to 8.4. Magically and without explanation, 8.4 could see my 8.3 backup so I restored without any issues.

    So, even though it may say it's not there, it may really still be there. I had the issue where it showing two entries for the device and one saying 0kb. Moral of the story for me is backup locally before attempting beta upgrades.
     
  8. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    I see my iPhone backup to 0KB in Managed Storage, however my iCloud storage decreases significantly. I mean, I can see less storage space available than before.

    I now cannot backup my iPhone through iCloud backup automatically. Maybe I can try to back it up manually.

    I guess I have a backup on iCloud. They just don't appear.
     
  9. Steve.P.JobsFan thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    iCloud kept saying I had 11 GB of free storage, yet both my iPhone and iPad said there was no space to backup.

    I said screw it and upgraded my iCloud Drive storage to 200GB. Now it magically has accounted for that missing 11GB of data, but all of my backups since Day 1 are gone.

    Harrah.

    -_-
     
  10. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    I now have a backup prior installing iOS 9 beta, and icloud doesn't allow me to do an icloud backup.
    I think this should be better because I don't want my icloud backup be polluted by current beta software.
     
  11. YarnoTruly macrumors newbie

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    This is my 4th Beta 'process' ... and I have experienced this type of pain too, when I forgot and tried to use a Beta like it was my daily driver. It 'maybe' (But I can't say definitely) that devices identified as running iOS9 are pointed to specific & different servers within the iCloud eco-system as opposed to those running GM on 8.3 & for that matter 8.4 at present. Since iOS 6, I ALWAYS backup my device to iTunes locally before installing a Beta for the 1st time and I NEVER backup my device locally again for the duration thereafter whilst running a Beta. I'm having no issues backing up in iOS 9 beta 1 or 2, and I am able to restore to 8.3 or 8.4 B4 from an iOS 9 backup on iCloud. When a new beta is released I ALWAYS download the full IPSW, NEVER the OTA. I have never experienced any performance issues in a Beta from loading the IPSW & then restoring from a backup in iCloud except iOS 8 beta 1! Doing it this way, I can ALWAYS go back one iteration if for example Beta 3 turns out to burn the battery like Beta 1 did. If you have access to more than one computer, so much the better for keeping both separate on the devices you choose to run in Beta. Everything that matters to me is backed up someplace else other than iCloud and iTunes. If I blow up my phone - I just blow up my phone...
     
  12. Steve.P.JobsFan thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I always backup before installing any beta. I backed up to iCloud before upgrading to iOS 9.

    After rolling back, all of my iOS 8 backups were gone except for that one I did right before upgrading.

    Interesting...
     
  13. YarnoTruly macrumors newbie

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    Interesting... and that will get overwritten if you have iCloud backup turned on in the Beta which won't restore if you choose to go back to 8.3 or 8.4. At least that's been my experience, which is why I keep a local backup of the current GM and don't mess with it whilst I run a Beta and use iCloud for beta backups only.
     
  14. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Mine should be ok if I revert to iOS 8.4.
     
  15. YarnoTruly macrumors newbie

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    Only forwards...If you go back to 8.x and try to restore from an iCloud iOS9 backup, it won't work. That's why I keep 8.x locally use IPSW files to upgrade the Betas and use iCloud backups only for the Beta I'm using
     
  16. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Mine should be ok if I revert to iOS 8.4.
     
  17. YarnoTruly macrumors newbie

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    You know something I don't, then.. if I revert to 8.x and try to restore a backup that's from iOS9, I get an error message saying my current version (8.x) is not compatible. Bottom line.. if you want to Beta test, keep the data you can't afford to lose separate. As I said previously, use iCloud for either your GM data and not your Beta, or vice versa... Example: - people on here lost tons of photos during the Photo stream to iCloud photo's beta...
     
  18. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    I say this because when I update to iOS 9 beta, Apple refuses to backup my phone to iCloud. Do you have a dev account? I don't have.
     
  19. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    If you update your device without a developer account and you don't do fresh install, you may not encounter this problem. This is only my guess, though.
     
  20. Vundu macrumors 65816

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    Your always best doing an encrypted iTunes backup before playing with a beta.
     

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