I just saw a tear down video and look like there is no way to do that since ssd is soldered on now...
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All latest macbook/macbook pro SSD cannot be upgraded/replaced!?
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No, everything is soldered in.
I think the 13inch 2016/17 non-TouchBar version has upgradable SSD only.
I think the 13inch 2016/17 non-TouchBar version has upgradable SSD only.
Yes since 2016.
BTW u do not need to start three threads about SSDs. U can also ask more questions in one
BTW u do not need to start three threads about SSDs. U can also ask more questions in one
Yes since 2016.
BTW u do not need to start three threads about SSDs. U can also ask more questions in one
In Russia, SSD upgrades you.
Nobody forcing anyone to buy them.
There are quite few reasons they went with everything soldered in, mainly to make the MBP as thin as possible.
There are quite few reasons they went with everything soldered in, mainly to make the MBP as thin as possible.
This is not new imformation, but if you feel that its counter to what you want then find another maker that allows upgrades on the storage.
I agree, its not an ideal situation, but I will say imo, most people in the past who bought laptops do not upgrade their storage.
If upgradability is a major must have for you, then find another laptop.
thin is a reason, but making you buy a new macbook pro when you want to upgrade is the main reason for sure. They use a m2 instead of soldered it would not waste much space at all, m2 is damn thin already.
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you only know do you want to upgrade or not if you can predict what is coming. Let's say SSD price suddenly comes down a lot then upgrade makes sense. I just bought a cheap ssd to upgrade an old samsung notebook.
All I'm saying is that its my opinion that most people don't upgrade their laptops. I have no scientific research to back that up, but I had worked in computer stores back in the day. People are more willing to buy a new computer after a few years instead of upgrading the existing one. Many members here are technically adept and they will want to upgrade, but I'm not talking about them. They represent a tiny percentage of computer buyers, I mean the vast majority of folks walking into an apple store - they have no desire or knowledge to upgrade.
Either way, its a moot point as apple has made the decision for you. its up to you if want to go the apple way or find another computer.
two years ago macbook pro already cannot upgrade, and the ssd price has dropped a lot recently. So for those users who bought macbook pro 2 years ago cannot even upgrade even the ssd price is much cheaper now.
So?
The price is going to keep going down for the high capacity drives.
If you're hung up with the fact that you cannot upgrade the MBP, then buy a dell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Look like people like your suggestion and start to buy other laptop brands, the sales number of macbook in general has been kept dropping lately:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263444/sales-of-apple-mac-computers-since-first-quarter-2006/
Actually sales dropped in the last quarter because apple hasn't updated their computer line. The MBP was updated at the end of the quarter so their sales number were not much of a factor. The Mini, Mac Pro, iMac, MacBook and MacBook Air, all are older generations. Its not a great situation, but its apple's own doing in that sense.
I don't believe people are abandoning the platform because apple soldered the SSD onto their MBP, but rather people have been waiting to new Macs. This isn't my own opinion but rather the consensus of many folks who are in the know.
Upgrading might not be a concern for many buyers, but I'll say this. My 2012 rMBP has been and still is reliable and for my needs it's a keeper. Say the ssd dies right now, fix is around $100 and as I have a backup of my data it'd only take cloning it back. All an hour's job and I'm back and running, hardly any productivity lost.
2018 owners 6 years from now would have to pay 5x the cash I'd pay today to fix their machine, because of essentially tying the logic board life to the hd life. Therein lies the rub.
2018 owners 6 years from now would have to pay 5x the cash I'd pay today to fix their machine, because of essentially tying the logic board life to the hd life. Therein lies the rub.
I think one thing that Apple has done well, by soldering everything on is create the “future proof” culture where buyers purchase more than they currently need in order to “future proof,” because they cannot predict the future.
You often see comments from buyers that they ordered 32GB of RAM, because even though they aren’t using that much they wanted to “future proof,” or they purchased a larger SSD than they current need because they wanted to “future proof.” Those are sometimes expensive choices you have to make at the time of purchase when you can’t upgrade later.
The ability to upgrade those components on an “as needed” basis is a pretty good and most often cheaper way to “future proof” as well.
I’m with u. I also would like to have it. I upgraded by myself a couple of times and saved hundreds of dollars.
On the other side from all the people I know just the absolute minority ever did upgrade their HDD or SSD or even RAM
For Apple of course it makes sense cos they earn more money. I think there should be more questions asked by journalists when Apple comes again with green washing their new campus but ignore their products.
Selling now the X max for the price of their MBs with everything soldered in and no SD card option is the best example why Apple doesn’t have to change their development. People are buying them like hot pretzels.
So for me the only viable solution is to buy used Apple products for 30-50% off. And resell them when I upgrade.
On the other side from all the people I know just the absolute minority ever did upgrade their HDD or SSD or even RAM
For Apple of course it makes sense cos they earn more money. I think there should be more questions asked by journalists when Apple comes again with green washing their new campus but ignore their products.
Selling now the X max for the price of their MBs with everything soldered in and no SD card option is the best example why Apple doesn’t have to change their development. People are buying them like hot pretzels.
So for me the only viable solution is to buy used Apple products for 30-50% off. And resell them when I upgrade.
When it comes to SSDs in MBA and MBP lines, while until 2016 they were "technically" upgradable, they really weren't imo. You could get an OWC drive and overpay and have it run read/write speeds slower than a 2.5" drive and also have continual firmware issues and show up as a rotational drive, or just pay more for a larger drive. Even considering the newer non touch bar drives, the SSD inserts almost like a DIMM, I would not be surprised if no third party ever makes a replacement.