ALL saved safari passwords gone

[Renq]

Hey,

I changed the user type of an existing user on my Mac from admin to normal user. Apparently, if you do this, all safari passwords get deleted automatically. No idea why, but it does happen, I checked it several times now.

Anyone knows whether passwords which vanished like that can reappear somehow?

Best Regards

 

[MarineBand5524]

No idea, never heard of it happening. I'd probably use this time to think about using an actual password manager.

 

[zorinlynx]

No idea, never heard of it happening. I'd probably use this time to think about using an actual password manager.

Keychain IS an actual password manager.

OP, you may be able to get your passwords back by restoring your ~/Library/Keychains folder from a backup made before this happened.

 

[MarineBand5524]

Keychain IS an actual password manager.

OP, you may be able to get your passwords back by restoring your ~/Library/Keychains folder from a backup made before this happened.

yes but at least using 1Password I've never lost anything like this.

I hope the restore will help.

 

[Slartibart]

which version of MacOS? Besides - obviously you reported it to Apple, I assume?

 

[Mr. Heckles]

yes but at least using 1Password I've never lost anything like this.

I hope the restore will help.

This was one of many reasons why I don’t use iCloud Keychain. I lost my passwords twice using it, and switched after the 2nd time.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I know it doesn't help now but, always, always have a backup of your passwords in case something like what the OP experienced happens.

 

[Fishrrman]

Long, long ago I realized that I needed "my own repository" of the many different passwords I use.

I DO NOT trust the Mac to keep track of them.

I used a database app (iData) to create my own password archive.
For a friend stumbling around in "password hell", I found it's also possible to create a password-protected WP file in Pages, using the tables feature to "house" the sites/passwords.

And of course, the other way is to write them all down in "a black book"...

 

[gilby101]

And of course, the other way is to write them all down in "a black book"...

That is what my other half does - it really is black. I insist on 1Password. Not clear which better.

 

[rebl]

I am on Ventura 13.1, I didnt do anything, ALL my passwords are gone! They should be saved within iCloud, on my iPhone they are still there ...

P.S. This 1password discussion is totally offtopic. Personally I would prefer iCloud Keychain in any case because it just works everywhere cross-device. Also @Fishrrman You do not trust encryption but you save your passwords unencrypted in plaintext in a password protected file, this makes absolutely no sense. Also @Apple_Robert it makes no sense to keep a "backup" when the whole purpose if iCloud Keychain is to make it obsolet to create and remember passwords because keychain does automatically create impossible-to-guess passwords for you, a different one for each website/app, and stores them for you so you dont have to worry about passwords anymore.

EDIT: Restarted and all passwords are back