All the Flashable GPUs for MAC Pro (Update Jan 2018)

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  1. rastaman3d macrumors newbie

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    I'm trying to find which are all the flashable GPUs Cards (vendors and models) actually tested and working with MacPro 4.1/5.1
    Anyone can help me to make a list of them?

    AMD 4870
    AMD 4890
    AMD R9 280
    NVIDIA GTX 680
    ....
     
  2. casperes1996 macrumors 68040

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    @MacVidCards I believe is the correct username for the specialist on this topic
     
  3. ActionableMango, Jan 29, 2018
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    AMD
    HD4870
    HD4890
    HD5770
    HD5870
    HD6850
    HD6870
    HD7950
    HD7970
    R9 280X

    Nvidia
    8800GT
    GT120
    GT630
    GT640
    GTX470
    GTX480
    GTX570
    GTX580
    GTX630
    GTX640
    GTX650
    GTX670
    GTX680
    GTX750ti
    GTX760
    GTX770
    GTX780
    GTX960
    GTX980
    GTX980ti
    GTX1070
    GTX1080
    GTX1080ti
    Titan
    Titan Black
    Titan X Maxwell
    Titan X Pascal

    I'm probably missing a lot. I probably also have a few wrong. But this is my "5 minute effort".
     
  4. krakman macrumors regular

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    This isn't the answer you are looking for but with 10.13.4 beta it seems all recent AMD RX 4xx and 5xx series cards work without needing to be flashed. Only drawback is no boot selector screen.

    The AMD Vega cards also work but Fans spin at high speed.

    The fan issue may be fixed in a future beta. The inability to display boot screen probably can't/won't be fixed.
     
  5. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    Cards that can be flashed and cards that work after bootup are two completely different lists.


    He's, uh...not around here any more.
     
  6. casperes1996 macrumors 68040

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    My condolences to his family.
     
  7. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    No, I mean not around here on MacRumors! :oops:
     
  8. casperes1996 macrumors 68040

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    I was just joking because that "uh...." made it sound like he'd died or something.
     
  9. rastaman3d thread starter macrumors newbie

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    My thread was intended to focus on the flashable (then with native boot screen) cards that don't need any hardware soldering tweak, just software. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
    I've found this old post that seems to be very exhaustive, but not updated

    http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,2187.0.html
     
  10. fiatlux macrumors regular

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    The benefit of flash is different depending on brand, model and generation.

    Most if not all nVidia PC cards will work in a Mac Pro w/o the need for an EFI ROM once the nVidia web drivers are loaded. The issue is that you have no boot screen, and no functional display after each macOS update (because the nVidia web drivers are tied to specific macOS versions). That's why I kept the orginial GT120 next to a GTX970 in my Mac Pro - it was just a matter of swapping the display cable once in a while. No big deal really.

    My understanding is that the recent nVidia cards (post GTX680) need some h/w tweaking before being able to be flashed with an EFI ROM anyway so I'm not really sure it is worth the hassle.

    On the AMD front, the recent RX4xx and RX5xx work out of the box with Apple's drivers (in recent versions of macOS). They still don't display the boot screen (as they lack an EFI ROM) but at least OS updates do not break support as the drivers are built-in. I am not sure an EFI ROM exists that can be flashed, the ROM hack that exists is purely to change the card id and make it appear as identical to the one Apple sells in the e-GPU developer kit - mostly a cosmetic thing, and possibly irrelevant once 10.13.4 is released (the beta seems to properly recognise different AMD PC cards).

    Things are different with older R9 280x and 79xx cards which can be flashed with the ROM of the latest official Mac ATI/AMD card, and be fully supported included boot screen.
     
  11. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    I don't think that post is what you think it is. It's a bunch of PC ROMs, not a list of verified MAC-flashable cards.
     
  12. bwinter88 macrumors newbie

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    Has anyone been able to raise MacVidCards on email, PM, phone...? I've sent emails in December and January requesting a card flash and heard nothing...
     
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  14. orph macrumors 68000

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    i think only the GTX680 and some of the ATI cards have public rom's for self flashing, think most the roms on ActionableMango list may be hard to find.

    good thing is that a few of the RX5/4xx ATI cards will work without messing around a lot
     
  15. expede macrumors regular

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    Hello!

    I´m looking at the list of "flashable" cards for Mac Pro. I got a (MSI) GeForce GTX 1060 3G on my desk and got a issue regarding my AMD Radeon HD 7950 Mac edition (flickering, unstable High Sierra, very unstable). Turned back to my roots and reinstalled ATI Radeon and the HS got stable again. So..

    Q: Anybody know if this my MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3G is flashable? (Like to get it EFI)

    Best regards

    /Per
     
  16. h9826790, Feb 2, 2018
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    AFAIK, it's possible. HOWEVER, 1060 may have output issues after flashing. Therefore, even MVC doesn't provide this card's flashing service (yet).

    So, practically, the answer is NO at this moment.

    Also, for your info, the 7950's flickering issue can be avoided by locking the VRAM clock speed (native setting is 1250MHz). You can do it by editing the VBIOS.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...7950-mac-edition.1603588/page-2#post-20513990

    Or plug in a second monitor (or even connect the same monitor twice to the graphic card, and then choose mirror mode). or use some virtual monitor HDMI dongle (which make the graphic card believe it's connected to a monitor)

    Any method that effectively lock the VRAM clock speed can completely fix the flickering.
     
  17. expede macrumors regular

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    Hi, and thanks for the fast reply!

    I have read your tutorial, which is great and very understandable, but I can not get hold off the HexMiner. It is absent at App Store in Sweden. And I can't seem to get it on the Net either. So I downloaded iHex and payed 5 dollars. But it does not look as the fine image you provided. I am a Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon with a great interest in computers but this leaves me with a big uncertainty, when the screen does not correspond. I do read and can follow instructions. Sorry!! This might not be for me. And by the way. I read that the file should be 128K (which it is in Windows 10) but when I drag it over to the Mac it turns out to be 131K.
    But still, thanks h9826790!

    Best regards

    /Per
     
  18. h9826790, Feb 2, 2018
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    h9826790 macrumors G5

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    HexMiner is not on AppStore anymore, but it should still available as 3rd party apps somewhere on the net.

    https://en.freedownloadmanager.org/Mac-OS/HexMiner-FREE.html

    Anyway, 128 vs 131, that's normal, because in Windows, 1k = 1024, but in MacOS, 1k = 1000.
     
  19. expede macrumors regular

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  20. casperes1996 macrumors 68040

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    Doesn't direct to iTunes for me, mate
     
  21. expede macrumors regular

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    Hi! And thanks.

    So when you push the "download" button the program HexMiner downloads??

    Best regards

    /Per


     
  22. 719c6 macrumors newbie

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    Any idea where I can locate the efi rom or how to edit the gt630 with the efi?
     
  23. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    macvidcards.com or ebay
     
  24. eksu macrumors regular

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    I believe the best single slot card you can flash is a W7000, which is an AMD FirePro, basically a 4gb 7870.
     
  25. orph macrumors 68000

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    @719c6 a GT630 will work on native osx driver or with the nvidia driver (wont matter), you wont have boot display aka the bar moving from left to right when you turn on your computer.
    but once the bar is done you will get display and desktop so you wont need to flash the card yourself.
    i have had no boot display for 3-4+ years now? with no problem so far with a gtx660 then a gtx770.

    all the cards on ActionableMango list will work without a lot of work
     

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