All the toys are updated!! Now for the macpro!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by ricci, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. ricci macrumors 6502

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    Anybody hear what they have planned? :confused:This is the only product left! Last i heard was a re design in 2013! :DMy music studio has the budget now! :cool:If nothing happends by spring,:eek: ill have no other choice but to bail!!:(
     
  2. Ozric macrumors newbie

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    You'll wait...and life will fly by you. The 2010/2012 MacPro5,1 is plenty strong to last you a while. All depends on your needs. I ordered my 2.66GHz Dual 6-Core Sept 2010, and just upgraded my SSD boot drive again to another OWC newer version recently, loaded Mountain Lion fresh this week, Avid Media Composer 6 and Adobe 6 complete suite, and it is again a whole new fast machine, happy camper here. Geekbench scores continue over 23000 from day one, but that's just a number, the machine is snappy as ever, and income flows in as the editing machine powers on.
     
  3. realizment macrumors member

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    You my friend are in the exact same boats as me.. Budget for the studio etc.. Its a really akward time.. my studio will be ready pretty soon and i want a 12 core, but its become a very akward time to buy check out my threads. Where you can see im digging deep to find out anything i can.. On a number of forums. I dont feel like dropping 8k to be pissed in jabuary when i hear about their new baby!.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1473081

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1475447
     
  4. MacSignal macrumors regular

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    Possibly, Apple is struggling with how to improve a product by doing something else besides making it thinner and removing internal components?
     
  5. Wild-Bill, Oct 25, 2012
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    I just read an article on MacNN that showed new benchmarks of the 2012 Mac Mini have reached Mac Pro levels.



    I wept silently.

    Somewhere Jesus was seen killing kittens in an alley.



    :(
     
  6. ricci thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Good luck with your music bro! I run Pro Tools. The advice I can give is if your running your studio with just host system, then get the best system you can afford! You can never have a system that's has too much power! The 12core I have my eye on too but it's two years old so I will stay away and see what Jan 2013 has! Now, if you planning on running your studio with Pro Tool native or better yet, HD, then you do not need a beast since the HD cards ARE the beast and your comp is the host that runs the little whats left over! So PC or Mac, really for me it the short cuts I would have to learn which is not a killer, it's just that right now I don't want to learn a new system. It is true, PC is cheaper and has the power, Macs for now have always run much smoother for music and Vid. That of course can change! I would say, wait two months or so and see what they have in store! It is coming, we just don't know the WOW factor!!! PEACE!!:cool::cool:
     
  7. realizment macrumors member

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    Yup thats it.. Yea I work out of both cubase and pro tools. for the home studio i would be host based.. For now. I work in one of the busiest studios in hollywood and we currently changing buildings they feel the same way. Heres to playing the waiting game.
     
  8. d-m-a-x macrumors 6502

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    face-palm * 1,000,000²
     
  9. steveOooo macrumors 6502a

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    Unless the new Mac Pro has a built in teas maid, I'm not note rested as the 5,1 will last me for a very long time
     
  10. realizment macrumors member

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    good point, the only thing i can think of is thunderbolt, which we can definitely make use of as current audio equipment is adapting..
     
  11. Torrijos macrumors 6502

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    At this point it's pretty clear Apple is waiting on Intel next generation workstation CPUs (maybe so USB 3 is managed by the CPU instead of a third party chip), they'll also wait for the iMac 27" sales to go down before upgrading the TB-display.

    The real question for me is what is going to be announced in february that worth the move of the iPad release to october? I doubt it's going to be the Pro's, maybe something to do with TVs or cloud computing (since they keep ramping up their server capacity).

    Anyway, I'm still convinced we're going to get the promise refresh of the pro line next year.
     
  12. Omnius macrumors 6502a

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    With mac minis pumping out raw cpu horse power comparable to the older model pros, expect a mac pro that will be solo running smaller studios.
     
  13. xgman macrumors 601

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    We now need some better info and a timeline on this.
     
  14. Torrijos macrumors 6502

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    While a mini can offer good performance at some benchmarks, Workstation/server CPUs have a lot of features mobile and desktop CPUs lack.

    In the case of Xeons they handle a lot more PCIe lanes, they have a bigger memory bandwidth, some have the capacity to work in pair or by 4, most have no iGPU, and more real cores etc. This is also the reason people wanting Mac Pros with desktop CPUs are missing the point of a workstation.
     
  15. spoonie1972 macrumors 6502a

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    well hopefully they update the pro apps at the same time - logic still can't see more than 16 cores - so those 24core machines have a bunch of their cpu capability running idle.

    no idea what FCP X accesses, most people I know that haven't jumped to adobe or avid still run V7.

    regardless, i'm looking forward to it. I sold my 3,1 while it still had good resale value and i'm hanging on by a thread using a mbp for the time being. It's.. it's *just* working for now.
     
  16. AlexBass macrumors regular

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    They've really been left behind in the race concerning desktops. The graphics are ancient- they STILL call it ATI (Which doesn't even exist anymore, it's AMD). They only come with 64GB RAM which is quite average for something which is supposed to function as a server. 12 Cores? That's pathetic, they could at least have bumped it up to 16 or 20 by now. I could go on...

    The web page is the same as it was about 6 years ago for crying out loud! An idea of mine, that I don't think anyone has suggested yet, should we be anticipating a new machine to replace the MacPro much like the MacPro replaced the Xserve? I doubt it's likely considering all the things they can do with it.

    Bottom line, I think we're looking at a major change in the years to come.
     
  17. blanka macrumors 68000

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    The MacMini is the new MacPro. At least it is faster. Can we close this Forum section now?
     
  18. Wild-Bill macrumors 68030

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    Feedback submitted to the "Mac Pro Team" on Apple......

     
  19. ThisIsNotMe macrumors 68000

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    Or they are going to come out with something big.
    (Like some sort of "blade" setup with Xeon Mac Mini type devices.)
     
  20. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Base Mac pro has been bested by most of Apples fleet for a while now. Nothing still beats the 6-core (16000-25000 GB points) and up. Thats been longer than 2 full years. Not any news. Mac mini chips have been around for months. So we can stop posting inflated nonsense now.

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    See above.
     
  21. blanka macrumors 68000

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    No, that would be very weird with a 3000 bucks BTO model. The mini does beat the basic 4 core model though on GB. For 36% of the money. One 6 core model allows you to buy 3 employees a only slightly less powerfull computer. If you upgrade to 16Gb you get a 256Gb SSD+16Gb at 1600mhz for the same price that buys a lousy 16 Gb 1066Mhz RAM for a Pro.
     
  22. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Which very likely was promptly sent to /dev/null as a confused, muddled mess.

    First, the 2010 models aren't current. The 2012 Mac Pro models so this is really a contest of going back into Mac Pro history to pick out a model that currently isn't sold as new ( refurb special cases are a sideshow).

    It always has been true and will continue to be true that the lastest mini will be some older Mac Pro. It is actually much more obvious if you had actually quoted the Macmini colo folks.

    ".... Don’t look now, but the new Mac minis are getting comparable to the last gen Xserve and 2010 Mac Pros as far as benchmarks. Tech progress marches on. ... "
    http://blog.macminicolo.net/post/34175374589/impressions-of-the-2012-mac-mini-updated

    The XServe is in there too. The comment's context is clear that they are going into the past for the equivalency here.

    Second, this actually pretty close to be a comparison of with the 2009 Mac Pro in terms of technology. In 2010, Intel did not release any updates to the Xeon 3500 series that would match the entry and mid level Mac Pros. There was one and only one 3600 series model released and Apple used it in the highest end single CPU package option. So the entry level machine went from W3520 to W3530 . So at the border were making these mini CPU benchmark comparisons the technology hasn't moved at all since 2009. A 2012 Mac Mini that is a tick-tock-tick generation ahead caught the Mac Pro is a "hang your head in same" event? That's a joke. It is almost the opposite that with that kind of handicapp the Machine is still in the ballgame.

    That even the entry level 2012 Mac Pro is still on 2009 era CPU architecture is one reason why some of the talk about "it is better to intentionally skip Sandy Bridge" is a dubious idea. If the Mac Pro team purposefully planned on skipping Sandy Bridge as part of a long term design choice then that would be a "hang your head in shame" moment.
     
  23. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

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    I have a new mini here and I have a BSEL mod 2006 MacPro right next to it.

    The mini SUCKS compared to the old Pro. Sad to say that all you naysaying fools are confusing benchmarks with RL performance. The numbers in a benchmark compile all sorts of ratings, however the dual core machines of the far past are still better for use despite being "slower".

    Aside from Pros, I see no other desktop Mac since 2006 that can best the performance of a 2006 Pro with an upgrade.
     
  24. linuxcooldude macrumors 68020

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    Don't think a Mac Mini is still not the greatest option if you use FCP X. FCP X 10.0.6 now utilizes the GPU for background rendering, something that the integrated GPU for the Mac Mini is lacking in power.
     

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