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george88

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- Better battery life : Nope same as last year
- 6x Zoom! - Nope 5x
- Huge chip improvements with A17: Nope, no numbers given on efficiency, CPU and GPU seem only up to 10% better
- 256gb base storag: Nope
- new telephoto and ultrawide lens: Nope
- Faster wireless charging: Nope
Etc
 
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shelt

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- Better battery life : Nope same as last year
- 6x Zoom! - Nope 5x
- Huge chip improvements with A17: Nope, no numbers given on efficiency, CPU and GPU seem only up to 10% better
- 256gb base storag: Nope
- new telephoto and ultrawide lens: Nope
Etc

And...the 5x zoom is not a periscope. It is a fixed focal-length 5x folded prism lens. So the years of hype about finally having an optical zoom were false. It seems the 1X-4.9X zoom range will still mostly be crops of the main lens/sensor rather than a pure optical zoom from what should have been a periscope system.

I'll go out on a limb and say they couldn't get a periscope system working for this year and simply stuffed a prism lens in the same space. Next year we'll see a dramatic new invention - the periscope lens!

EDIT: A couple folks have pointed out the S23 Ultra uses a similar cropping system rather than a variable optical zoom. Apologies! Sony uses a true variable focal-length zoom.
 
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vinegarshots

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And...the 5x zoom is not a periscope. It is a fixed focal-length 5x folded prism lens. So the years of hype about finally having an optical zoom (like many Android phones...) were false. It seems the 1X-4.9X zoom range will still mostly be crops of the main lens/sensor rather than a pure optical zoom from what should have been a periscope system.

I'll go out on a limb and say they couldn't get a periscope system working for this year and simply stuffed a prism lens in the same space. Next year we'll see a dramatic new invention - the periscope lens!

The prism basically functions the same as the "periscope."
And the android periscope zooms work exactly as you're describing:

"Samsung calls the zoom functionality in its smartphones "Space Zoom" and it enables up to 100x digital zoom. The periscope lens itself uses a folded 4x telephoto lens combined with a 48-megapixel sensor, which can swap between 4x and 10x zoom. Samsung's zoom feature is technically a hybrid option because it uses some sensor cropping for the 10x zoom."
 

george88

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That CPU is faster in single core than most desktop workstations and the GPU is faster than a PS4 and has hardware raytracing. The performance is already beyond ridiculous, what do you need faster stuff for?
It doesn't need to be faster, but most rumors were pointing to either huge power efficiency or performance increases, but we got neither of those.
 

leman

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It doesn't need to be faster, but most rumors were pointing to either huge power efficiency or performance increases, but we got neither of those.

I think we got significant efficiency improvements (especially in the GPU department, A15/A16 have problems with sustain). I’d wait for reviews first. It’s also possible that the other components (like the new NPU/image processor) are eating up the difference.
 
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Torty

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99% of normal users will never once need this neural improvement, i bet if you ask 100 people to name one app that uses it, no one would be able to give even one example of an app that benefits from the neural engine
improved autocorrect for ios17 needs at least A14 SOC.
 

vngannxx

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15 pro max 5x telephoto is much better than Samsung s23 Ultra 10x telephoto

1/3.2 sensor 1.12 pixel size 15.5 mm2 f2.8


Samsung s23 Ultra 10x telephoto

1/3.52 sensor 1.12 pixel size 12.1 mm2 f4.9


1.375 more stops of light with a larger sensor and aperture.
 
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