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Alogic Debuts $2,000 32-Inch 6K Display With Touch Support
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If Apple were to release a touchscreen 32" 6k display I think just the stand would be $2k.
I have the large Wacom Cintiq. After using an iPhone touchscreens (iPad as well), it’s so smooth, nothing compares. And the Wacom wasn’t Retina. 4k, so going from 27” 5k imac to 4k 27” Wacom was horrible.
I also had the expensive stand to go with it. When it was time to sell it since I was moving, I couldn’t give that thing away. Nobody wanted it. I had it basically brand new in the box and no bites at all.
Just an FYI about the Wacom and I’m assuming other touch screens. If they aren’t as smooth as an iPhone or iPad, I wouldn’t Touch it. (Pun and not pun lol).
That’s not my experience, but people’s experience can be different.what was your use case? What were you using for?
The big Cinteq tablets do offer something Apple doesn’t offer.
The current 13” iPad pro + pencil pro is an extremely good tool for drawing / drafting etc. And even the 13” iPad Air and pencil pro is a very good tool fir this type if work.
But it’s 13”. Apple don’t make a 27”, and that’s where Wacom have little competition.
You can’t compare a 5K Apple Mac screen ( I presume you mean a 27” iMac or studio display ) to a 27” Wacom, because the screen on the iMac or the ASD is NOT an input device.
If you want a large target for drawing etc, Wacom are the market leader. Mainly because there a few, if any, other viable options.
The thing being reviewed / advertised at the start of this thread lessons ks like a competitor to the 27” Wacom, not a competitor to an Apple monitor.
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I haven't been keeping up the 6K 8K tech for a while... but 60 Hz still a limitation? Also why only 99% Adobe RGB when I've seen 100% plus for years now. Also why only 90W charging. Every MacBook and high-end PC laptop has been 100W plus charging. Seems a lot of limitations.
I’m unsure if I was quoting a post of yours or not. I guess I just saw “Wacom” and “27”. I used to want to be a comic book illustrator growing up, so I know it’s the industry standard.
Maybe I was just posting my experience with it.
I hated it was only 4k
And really I’m just so used to drawing on actual paper, I could never get used to the texture. And I did need the large size.
I guess that’s about it really. Honestly if they did make a 5k 27” Wacom, I could see that definitely being in your workflow if you illustrate for a living. Jason Seilers (not sure if you’ve seen his work or website) is amazing. He probably uses the Wacom. And perhaps I was just assuming it was something it wasn’t, just as you said. But that’s really where that “matte” finish comes into play as well. So you could get that paper like feel.
Anyway, thanks for the reply! I no longer went into illustration, but ended up doing graphic design which I LOVE.
Not really though. A 32 inch 6K monitor has the same pixels per inch than both the Studio Display and the Pro XDR. I think it’s 218 ppi. Basically Retina.
The Wacoms are not IIRC.
That really wasn’t my point. The Wacom tablets not not primarily monitors, they are designed to be input devices, a digital drawing board.
It wouldn’t make much sense to buy Wacom Cintiq to use as a primary monitor in a standard desktop setup.
Looking at the marketing materials for this device, that’s what it’s positioning itself as: an input device.
Whether it really is that, or it is primarily a monitor but with a touchscreen as an added extra, can’t be known with an actual review or, even better, some hands -on time by someone who uses a “big Wacom” professionally.
As I said earlier, iPad Pros and even iPad airs give Wacom serious competition, but they’re small, maxing out at 13”.
I've got a samsung M8 at the moment that I think is 400 max too, and its totally fine. the only complaint I have about it is that you have to faff a bit to make sure it runs at 60Hz, but then its awesome, and this new 6k will have better resolution which is the only part I miss from my iMac Pro. The iMac is brighter when i stop to notice, but I've never had an issue with whatever the M8 is pumping out. at this price the 6k looks way more tempting than over 3x cost for an XDR. I know the XDR is 'better' but its never going to be in my price range, and if I was I still think id have to plunk down for 1 or 2 of these plus keep the change.
A million years ago in a…well a long time ago…I started an integrator company to support SMBs. We had lots of people who wanted a touch screen monitor. At the time Elotouch was the only game in town. We probably sold a dozen or so of their uber-expensive monitors over the few years we operated the bid-ness. After about 8 or so months, in follow-up calls, we found most customers didn’t use them b/c they had to (1) disengage with their normal workflow, (2) pick their hand(s) off the desk and poke at the monitor. After a few minutes their arms were (3) tired and…perhaps more importantly…(4) their screens were filthy.
I get that this is an origami-monitor that rolls over to show its soft belly giving you an easier attack vector, but for true productivity nothing beats the standard keyboard and mousing device. We *tried* one of those Microsoft things (what was it called?) that laid down flat but after a quick spin on the dance floor the belle of the ball cooled her heels in a dark corner with the art nerds.
Plus the 400-nit max is a weird spot for a monitor *ostensibly* aimed at ‘creatives’. How does one truly color grade on a dim display?
I *wish* we could get the Pro Display XDR’s with integrated cameras. With so many vid calls these days an integrated camera is requisite so we all have Studio Displays on our desks. Fingers crossed for next year.
I get that this is an origami-monitor that rolls over to show its soft belly giving you an easier attack vector, but for true productivity nothing beats the standard keyboard and mousing device. We *tried* one of those Microsoft things (what was it called?) that laid down flat but after a quick spin on the dance floor the belle of the ball cooled her heels in a dark corner with the art nerds.
Plus the 400-nit max is a weird spot for a monitor *ostensibly* aimed at ‘creatives’. How does one truly color grade on a dim display?
I *wish* we could get the Pro Display XDR’s with integrated cameras. With so many vid calls these days an integrated camera is requisite so we all have Studio Displays on our desks. Fingers crossed for next year.
Except for the brightness and the dimming zone contrast ratio. It's supposed to be HDR400 which means it's not really HDR. if you want 6k32" there are other monitors, at least one of which is cheaper (Asus Pro Art 6k). There is a whole thread about all the available 6k32" monitors available (in the mac accessories section).
Price is $2,099 with shipping to start October 31:
Right now the full specifications page is for a different model (their new Aspekt Touch 32" 4K), but the correct spec sheet is available on the downloads page. Hopefully they will fix this soon.
The spec sheet is thin and looks like it isn't quite finished (compare to the Clarity 5K spec sheet), but one thing worth noting is 400 nits is the “typical” brightness, not “maximum” as MR reported, and it confirms 8-bit + FRC depth. So I think there’s still a good chance this is the same AUO panel as the ASUS and Acer, just with different I/O, backlight, drivers, and (obviously) glass.
Right now the full specifications page is for a different model (their new Aspekt Touch 32" 4K), but the correct spec sheet is available on the downloads page. Hopefully they will fix this soon.
The spec sheet is thin and looks like it isn't quite finished (compare to the Clarity 5K spec sheet), but one thing worth noting is 400 nits is the “typical” brightness, not “maximum” as MR reported, and it confirms 8-bit + FRC depth. So I think there’s still a good chance this is the same AUO panel as the ASUS and Acer, just with different I/O, backlight, drivers, and (obviously) glass.
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I think it's like the Clarity 5K with 1000:1 contrast, which means it can't even be certified for DisplayHDR 400 performance under the new v1.2 requirements (at least 1300:1). So they say "HDR400," which like you say is meaningless -- all it really means is 400 nits and it supports the HDR10 format. But until they fix the specifications list error (currently it has the new Aspekt 32" 4K Touch specs), finish the spec sheet, and publish the user manual (the definitive source), we can't be sure. I think it probably has the same color gamut as well (MacRumors said that in the news article).
But there are better non-touchscreen 6K monitors out there, if it's a 6K monitor you want.
I’ve used a Cintiq my entire solo career as an architect, almost 20 years. It’s been my secret weapon, so no, your sister isn’t allowed to have one.
Wacom discontinued their 32” offering because they couldn’t solve an issue with dead pixels forming due to hand pressure on the tablet. I’m curious if this display will suffer the same problem.
Specifications page error is now fixed, but still very thin, like the spec sheet. Looks like we’ll have to wait for the user manual for definitive answers to questions left unanswered.
The WikiPost has been updated to reflect what we know based on info in either [1] this MR news article or [2] the specs, with one assumption based on the 5K (1000:1 contrast).
The WikiPost has been updated to reflect what we know based on info in either [1] this MR news article or [2] the specs, with one assumption based on the 5K (1000:1 contrast).
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I had the large 32” Wacom. No clue how illustrators worked on it at all after even coming from a 27” 5k iMac. Well obviously the iMac can’t do touch. But now that this can, bye bye Wacom ( I haven’t looked at full specs, but I hated my Wacom). When I went to sell it, I couldn’t give that thing away.
That being said, I just want a monitor. I don’t know if any of you have owned a 32” before, but I’ve owned not one, but two XDRs at the same time and they are massive. I do like the idea of using it for music making though. Touchscreen for laying down some beats etc… ok I’m sold again haha
In my opinion it failed because of the UI. The iPad is simple. You know what does what. The Wacom I was having to use a remote, a glove, a helmet (jk). But famous comic artists like Jim Lee make magic out of it. Especially with inking etc. I grew up with paper (well just like them) but I tried the digital realm and without 5k minimum I just couldn’t connect with it. And you really need the workspace for it. With the stand it wasn’t exactly light. I tried the VESA mount as well, but it just wasn’t for me.