Alternative to Find My iphone

jsf721

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So I have 2 boys who are 16 and 19. The 19 y/o is away at college and I often check there whereabouts when I cannot locate them by phone or text. They are aware and its nothing sneaky, just a safety and security issue on our end as parents.

It is a hassle to enter the email and password each time. Is there a way to save this data in the app so that I can just select the phone I want to locate?

Thanks and for anyone flaming me for privacy issues, my kids know what I am doing, we are very open about everything and get back to me when you have kids yourselves.

Thanks
 

deeddawg

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Is there a reason you don't simply use the Find-my-Friends app?

back to me when you have kids yourselves.
I've put two through college, both graduated and living their lives as successful adults. I've never felt the need to monitor their whereabouts. IMHO we do a disservice to our children if we don't gradually expand their independence as they're ready for it. Kids need to grow up sometime and not have Helicopter Parents hovering over them. Especially at 19 and away at college. I'm all for having find-my-iphone access for emergencies, but to be monitoring location so often as to find entering the credentials burdensome... doesn't deem healthy to me.
 

jim.hickman.777

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I was put out on my own at 15. I have no respect for any lounge hugging wanta be college students living at home. Damn get out and get a job mom and dad get over it
 

Oridus

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Alternative to Find My iphone

So I have 2 boys who are 16 and 19. The 19 y/o is away at college and I often check there whereabouts when I cannot locate them by phone or text. They are aware and its nothing sneaky, just a safety and security issue on our end as parents.



It is a hassle to enter the email and password each time. Is there a way to save this data in the app so that I can just select the phone I want to locate?



Thanks and for anyone flaming me for privacy issues, my kids know what I am doing, we are very open about everything and get back to me when you have kids yourselves.



Thanks


You track your 19 year old as well? Wow...

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I was put out on my own at 15. I have no respect for any lounge hugging wanta be college students living at home. Damn get out and get a job mom and dad get over it

I was on my own at 15 too... Turned out just fine without my parents gps monitoring me 24/7, as I'm sure you did. Kudos to you for doing the tough deed.
 

PegasusTenma

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I am 21, I live in London while my dad is in Spain and my mom is in Colombia.
They trust me, so I reciprocate the trust. You should do the same.
 

heisenberg123

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Oct 31, 2010
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easy people the OP stated they only do it when they can't contact them, it all depends on the parent/kid relationship too

if you typically respond to your parents calls, texts in X ammount of time and it goes well beyond that then that parrent would get worried
 

rui no onna

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So I have 2 boys who are 16 and 19. The 19 y/o is away at college and I often check there whereabouts when I cannot locate them by phone or text. They are aware and its nothing sneaky, just a safety and security issue on our end as parents.

It is a hassle to enter the email and password each time. Is there a way to save this data in the app so that I can just select the phone I want to locate?

Thanks and for anyone flaming me for privacy issues, my kids know what I am doing, we are very open about everything and get back to me when you have kids yourselves.
If you're on iOS 8, you can set up Family Sharing and add your kids' accounts. You'll be able to see the devices using your own log-in.

Prior to iOS 7, we used a single log-in for Find My iPhone. Our iPhones like to hide under couch cushions, etc and they're almost always on silent so it was just easier to have all devices under one log-in so we can find any phone with whatever device we have on-hand. :p
 

cynics

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As mentioned use Find my Friends. They can see you and you can see them.

If there are no trust issues its the perfect solution since they can turn it off if they are doing something private and back on when they are done (AA/NA meeting, couple girlfriends, strip club with friends, typical stuff you'd just prefer your parents not know about lol). Overall you can check and make sure they are still alive and kicking when you don't hear from them for several days/weeks.

ALSO with iOS 8 you can share location in the message app for periods of time or indefinitely.

If there is actually trust issues you are SOL. You'll need to enter the info every time. Even though you said it isn't but if it is I'd suggest trying to get over it. You'll end up putting them in a dangerous situation if they start leaving their phones at home so daddy can monitor their every move.
 

Lostanddamned

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Find my friends is the solution for this.

Yeah, sometimes you won’t be able to locate them, because they don’t want you knowing where they are, which is reasonable. At 19 they are, for almost all intents and purposes, an adult; especially if they aren’t living at home.

What reason do you have for not being able to trust that your children will not be able to look after themselves in an adequate fashion?
 

TruckdriverSean

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+1 on Find My Friends

Best solution.

As long as you use a pin code or Touch ID, you will NOT have to put in a password again.

Also has a HUGE privacy advantage, as you do NOT need your sons' Apple ID & password to use it, keeping their iCloud, contacts, App Store purchases, etc. private.

As for trust issues & privacy, well that depends on the real state of your relationships and situation.

My family uses it. Having a family with truck drivers, sharing location makes sense for us. No more worried calls from my mom when it's raining sideways or sleeting, or after a bad wreck on the highway makes the news. You can see where we're at, see that we're still moving, see that I'm in the middle of that little Texas sprinkle and call me later. Probably not a good time now.

There are family members that I wouldn't share my location with for all the money in the world though, so as I've said, it depends on how your relationships really are and how you plan to use it.
 

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scottw324

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Put a passcode on your phone and then you shouldn't have to enter in the username/password each time to check on the idevices under your iTunes account. This is assuming they are all under the same iTunes account.

Set the require passcode to the long amount of time if it is annoying. Like every 4 hrs or something.
 

its Dale

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He does it when he can't reach them by phone or text. Its perfectly fine knowing their whereabouts when you cant reach them. Its his children! Wish more parents were keeping track of their kids. The kid can turn it off if they dont like it.

Thats how they found the girl that crashed her car and rolled down a cliff. Onstar and helicopter couldnt locate her. FIND MY IPHONE did.
 

TWO2SEVEN

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I don't understand why any thread mentioning parenting goes down this road.

Does anyone really expect the OP of this thread, or any thread like it, to change the way they parent based on the advice of other members here? This is not ParentRumors.
 

jsf721

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Thank you, first post worth reading.

Bless you-LOL

Find my Friends, also from Apple.


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Spoken like a parent who has experienced the communication black out.

easy people the OP stated they only do it when they can't contact them, it all depends on the parent/kid relationship too

if you typically respond to your parents calls, texts in X ammount of time and it goes well beyond that then that parrent would get worried
 

jsf721

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Not a trust issue. My son was on a fraternity road trip and was not told where he was going. He told me he was not allowed to contact anyone. I knew this in advance and I wanted to see what up. Figured as long as the phone kept moving and being charged he was OK.

Little one calls me regularly, pick me up at a party. I get street name and no address. Call me when your outside, then he does not pick up. I can find him with find my iphone. would like to find him without punching in all the digits.

Little one is a Knicks game tonight. Took train with friend. I want to make sure he make the train (I am at work) and get to the garden on time. Just to be sure all is good. Remember, he knows I do this, but its better than a call from Dad.

For those of you who think its bad, OK you can have your opinion. I disagree, I am the guy who has the responsibility to pick up the pieces when the XYZ hits the fan.

Find my friends is the solution for this.

Yeah, sometimes you won’t be able to locate them, because they don’t want you knowing where they are, which is reasonable. At 19 they are, for almost all intents and purposes, an adult; especially if they aren’t living at home.

What reason do you have for not being able to trust that your children will not be able to look after themselves in an adequate fashion?


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Agreed

He does it when he can't reach them by phone or text. Its perfectly fine knowing their whereabouts when you cant reach them. Its his children! Wish more parents were keeping track of their kids. The kid can turn it off if they dont like it.

Thats how they found the girl that crashed her car and rolled down a cliff. Onstar and helicopter couldnt locate her. FIND MY IPHONE did.
 

Lostanddamned

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Not a trust issue. My son was on a fraternity road trip and was not told where he was going. He told me he was not allowed to contact anyone. I knew this in advance and I wanted to see what up. Figured as long as the phone kept moving and being charged he was OK.

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For those of you who think its bad, OK you can have your opinion. I disagree, I am the guy who has the responsibility to pick up the pieces when the XYZ hits the fan.
Heres the thing, Find my Friends would be fine for that and work just perfectly to have a rough idea where they are. Checking up through Find my iPhone means that one day, when your kid wants to keep a real secret from you, they leave their phone behind.

If the **** hits the fan then, checking up with Find my iPhone will tell them that they are at home and absolutely fine; do you see the issue here?
 

jsf721

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I see the issue, I trust my kids, I just need to be sure that the crazy world we live in gives me a chance to be a participant in my families own rescue if necessary.

My kids don't object, from an early age I told them that safety trumps almost everything.

I told them that when they have their own families, I am quite sure they will do a better job than I have done, but know I did my best and all decisions and actions were the best ones I could muster.

What I think you are all missing is, my kids know what I am doing. I am not secretly budding the phone. I have had my younger son call me to say, phone is dying, I am turning off location services to save battery. My ringer is now on. call or text me if you need me-OK?


Heres the thing, Find my Friends would be fine for that and work just perfectly to have a rough idea where they are. Checking up through Find my iPhone means that one day, when your kid wants to keep a real secret from you, they leave their phone behind.

If the **** hits the fan then, checking up with Find my iPhone will tell them that they are at home and absolutely fine; do you see the issue here?
 

jsmith189

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Why couldn't we just answer the question instead of turning this into a parenting lesson? Whether you agree or not is irrelevant when it comes to child safety, no matter how you approach it.
 

Lostanddamned

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I see the issue, I trust my kids, I just need to be sure that the crazy world we live in gives me a chance to be a participant in my families own rescue if necessary.

My kids don't object, from an early age I told them that safety trumps almost everything.

I told them that when they have their own families, I am quite sure they will do a better job than I have done, but know I did my best and all decisions and actions were the best ones I could muster.

What I think you are all missing is, my kids know what I am doing. I am not secretly budding the phone. I have had my younger son call me to say, phone is dying, I am turning off location services to save battery. My ringer is now on. call or text me if you need me-OK?
I know your kids know, that is the point I am trying to make clear. Your kids know, and they are keeping secrets from you. All kids do. Your use of Find my iPhone (which can’t easily be disabled, so most people will chose to leave the phone behind or turn off location services if they wish to conceal their activities) means that if your loved ones are taking risks - whatever they may be - it might not actually be possible for you, or anyone, to participate in their rescue, because they are unable to call for help or be located.

You are taking the right to any privacy from your children, teaching them that your concern drums their right to learn from mistakes. I cannot agree with that and I want you to see that in doing so you have created a situation whereby they will put themselves at a deeper risk to avoid your surveillance.

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Why couldn't we just answer the question instead of turning this into a parenting lesson? Whether you agree or not is irrelevant when it comes to child safety, no matter how you approach it.
Well no… it is possible to ensure your child is safe with approaches which are more or less controlling. I am presenting the case that children will naturally rebel, and that any measure of safety has to account for that.

At one end of the sliding scale of child safety we have Rapunzel’s mother; who locked her daughter in a tower and forbid her ever leaving. On the other end you have total freedom with no consequence (this probably won’t work). At the mid point is asking your child to check in or to share location information when they are comfortable.

As a teenager I was allowed the freedom of my home town on weekends, with the provisos that I let my parents know if I was going to be home later than 2100, or where I was staying. I never got into anything that I couldn’t then bail myself out of, or call for help if needed. I also never had to think about my mother breathing down my neck, knowing that 17 year olds do not sit under the pier late at night to watch the moon, they do so to ingest illicit substances and to experiment with one another. Had I been under the assumption that my own private Big Brother was constantly watching me, I likely wouldn’t have had an adolescence fuelled by my own desire to understand myself, which seems unhealthy to allow deny that of anyone.
 
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