alternatives to the macbook

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by nomorevista, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. nomorevista macrumors newbie

    Nov 16, 2008
    heres my idea- so many people are looking at the macbook for the first time, and trying to work out are they getting ripped off with the cost issues.

    why not post here other alternatives with

    1) similar specs and build qualities, so shoppers get a feel for what they are really getting
    2) with a picture
    3) and customer review is possible
    4) price

    For example this is one i considered - when i priced it out the Macbook came out surprisingly close


    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 - 22672BU
    From: $1,249.00*
    Sale price: $1,199.00*

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor P7350 ( 2GHz 1GHz 3MB
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
    13.3 WXGA TFT with integrated camera AntiGlare 1280x800

    System graphics - ATI Radeon HD 3450 256MB
    2 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz
    Hard drive - 250GB 5400
    DVD Recordable
    Intel Wireless Wi-Fi Link 5100
    6 Cell Lithium-Ion
    starting at 4.18 lbs.
    One year parts and labor (system battery: one year)

    Date: November 19, 2008
    Pros: Processor, Memory, Storage, Input/Output compatibility, Keyboard/peripherals, Wireless card, Display resolution, Screen size, Display performance, Video card, Bluetooth, Weight, Battery, Durability, Support, Security Features, Build Quality
    Cons: speakers

    "This Laptop can't get any better!! A lot of people says that the battery is not good, But honestly I think the battery is great!!! I use it for so long! Just make sure you charge it fully when you get the laptop before you use it. This laptop is pretty powerful. I even played Dead Space and Gears of War on this laptop with no problem. Veriface is also a great way to sign yourself in instead of typing the password. The Speakers are not THAT good.. But what can yo expect, its a laptop. Use headphones. Keyboard feels great. The Backlight on the monitor is GREAT. I compared it to other laptops and this one beats all the other LCD's. SUPER CLEAR! Pretty Light laptop. THIS IS A GREAT LAPTOP FOR THE PRICE!!!! GET IT!!"
  2. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    It's certainly not ugly. I have the last rev BlackBook, so I'm hoping Apple will have come to their senses in four years time and give us a better option to the new line, such as carbon fiber. But if they insist on staying on this impractical path, something like that may be an option.
  3. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    VAIO® CS Series Notebook PC
    Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T5800 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 Cache)
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium
    Model Features: 3GB RAM, 250GB hard drive, CD/DVD burner, Bluetooth®, camera/microphone, touch-sensor multimedia controls, glossy black finish

    ... now only if these will run OS X without hacks.

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  4. kasakka macrumors 68000

    Oct 25, 2008
    To me the new trackpad and especially OSX are big deals though. Don't take me wrong, I like Vista and use it on my desktop PC but I haven't been very impressed with it for laptop use.

    I would have no problems using a non-Apple laptop if I could install OSX on it, but alas, at the moment there seem to be pretty bad issues with "Hackintosh" when it comes to things like laptop WLAN, sound, Bluetooth etc chips. Just no drivers available I suppose.

    To me the biggest faults of the Macbook are the poor vertical viewing angles on the display and the lack of a FireWire port. Both of course rectified by going for the MBP but then you have to deal with the larger size and weight.
  5. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    This is a site dedicated to Apple and Macs. If I wanted a Dell, Levano, HP or Sony laptop, I'd be reading
  6. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    I don't think the OP was trying to promote the PCs. He/she is making a point that, while many people think MBs are expensive compared to the "$500 PC laptops", but in fact, if you match the specs, the PC prices are similar to MB prices.
  7. MacJenn macrumors regular

    Oct 25, 2008
    OK :rolleyes:

    Spoken like a true fanboy without any basis of fact. Macs cost more on average with less features. People are just willing to pay more because of OS X and some other reasons, but PC's for the most part give a lot more bang for the buck.
  8. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

    Tallest Skil

    Aug 13, 2006
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Uh, you know... redirects to MacRumors. :p:D
  9. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    Really? Thanks, Sherlock. :p
  10. themoonisdown09 macrumors 601


    Nov 19, 2007
    Georgia, USA
    I don't like either of these websites. I always look for my information on
  11. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    I like Lenovo, but Thinkpad is the only way I'll ever go.
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
  13. nomorevista thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 16, 2008
    Yes my point is that - I know that i have paid a premium, i accept that and it was my choice.

    BUT- for others looking into this - evaluate what the premium really is- I wish i had thought this way when i bought a $500 compaq last year that has already died on me. At the time i could not justify the price up to a mac from $500.

    If i had realized that reliability, function and form -needs the spends listed above either

    1) I would have paid for a macbook - and swallowed the reduced premium- if any-
    2) or would have ended up with a decent vista machine- that is reliable, can run vista well - and probably be content

    Either way would have saved me a lot of cash in the last 12 months - and my sanity

    This is not about being a macfanboy - its about giving people who come to this forum some insight - so that if they go off and buy a PC they stay happy.

    The basic mac i bought 2 weeks ago looks like its a premium of maybe $100-$200

    Now if people continue to compare to a $500 machine - well there must be some real stupid people buying the $1000 sonys and thinkpads - as the same logic applies does it not
  14. bigjnyc macrumors 603


    Apr 10, 2008
    I'm far from being a fanboy of anything but i have to tell you from experience no matter how shiny a pc looks and no matter how impressive the specs are, it all goes to hell once you start getting spyware and the windows registry gets bloated and bogged down.... all the RAM and processing power in the world wont speed your computer up once it starts slowing down.

    plus think about 2 years from now when you are looking to upgrade how much is that pc laptop going to be worth? vs how much that mac is going to be worth?
  15. waloshin macrumors 68040

    Oct 9, 2008
    Dell xps m1330

    Dell Xps m1330

    Starting From $1,140
    You Save $141
    Now $999

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5800 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1, 64-bit
    4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
    Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)


    Have a Dell xps m1530 , and the price has depreciated so much over the last year!
  16. cellocello macrumors 68000


    Jul 31, 2008
    Toronto, ON
    I mean ... yeah, any 2.0/2.4ghz nice-form-factor laptop is going to be a "good alternative" to the MacBook, but that's not really the point is it?

    Without OSX, the MacBook is just a nice aluminum laptop. To me, it's the software baby. That's what I paid the "premium" for.

    Otherwise, just buy the best you can afford - that's your MacBook alternative right there.
  17. tubbymac macrumors 65816


    Nov 6, 2008
    If there really was competition for the Macbook I'd be all over it. But this notebook is in another league altogether. The only thing remotely similar is the 13 inch size on other notebooks and the hard drive and ram. That's where the similarities end. OSX, Aluminum Unibody, Multitouch Trackpad, Nearly Silent Operation, Garageband and the other iLife software - nothing else offers these deal breakers. There is no competition to this thing, and that's why Apple can charge whatever they want for it.
  18. rd261 macrumors regular

    Sep 24, 2007
    Couldnt agree more. A friend of mine has a viao, c2d 2.0, 3gb of ram, and windows vista. However, next to my last gen black macbook, it feels like a pentium M with 512 mb of ram. Once windows decides to slow down, there's no processor on earth that can keep up with it.
  19. nick9191 macrumors 68040

    Feb 17, 2008
    You're looking at it at a purely hardware point of view. Look at what you can do with a Mac out the box, look at what you can do with a PC out of the box. Hardware this, hardware that, software is what matters.

    Hardware is a complete con. If programmers were forced to code within limits like the old days, programs, operating systems, etc. would not need glutinous amounts of hardware. As it is, programmers need not worry anymore, now that we have a hardware industry fueled by bloatware, and multi core systems that software cannot even begin to take advantage of.

    It leads to your everyday web surfer thinking a Mac Mini is too slow for him, and that he really needs that 24" iMac. It leads to people spending $1000 on graphics cards to max out Crysis.
  20. Smacky macrumors 6502

    Jul 23, 2008
    Apple products help you to pickup and make you more attractive to the opposite sex. Honest! :D

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