Always on Siri

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by AstroDrew, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. AstroDrew macrumors regular

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    I'll be honest. I'm so jealous of my brother's Amazon Echo. Alexa is much responsive and "smarter"than Siri. But the best feature I liked is its always on feature. I wish it can happen to our Apple TV where Siri is always on. I know Siri is always on my iPhone 6s but it would be nice if it has that feature on the ATV as well. Pushing the button on the remote can be a hassle when you're on the couch watching a movie and eating a popcorn. It would be nice to just say "Hey Siri, pause the movie" without picking up the remote with my buttered and salted fingers.
     
  2. benjitek macrumors 6502a

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    At most, it should be an option. I definitely wouldn't want my ATV microphone always-on. The Echo isn't a streaming TV box. It would be more appropriate to compare FireTV Alexa to ATV Siri -- both require pressing a remote button for voice controls.
     
  3. satcomer macrumors 603

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    Does your brother's Amazon Echo Alexa control his FireTV yet?
     
  4. AstroDrew thread starter macrumors regular

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    I'm not sure. I was busy playing with the home automation in his house. He have wemo lights, the nest thermostat and security system and door locks.
     
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    Then ask him before you complain about always on Siri not being there!
     
  6. AstroDrew thread starter macrumors regular

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    Wow! angry much? ;)
     
  7. satcomer macrumors 603

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    No. I just hate when you discourage Siri when you don't even know if Alexia can even do what you are asking!
     
  8. AstroDrew thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't like to argue, but all I was saying is it would be nice if the feature is available on Siri. I'm not bashing the product, I was merely "wishing" a feature I found useful on the Amazon Echo be on the product I use. It's the people like me who companies listen to to improve their product.

    Why did Apple added the GPS feature on their series 2 watches? because their RND found that their product users demanded for it. You get better and improve products because of suggestions, criticism and insight from product users like you and me.

    So I suggest you open your mind to what people suggest, complain or criticize about your item because it is part of what makes companies decide on what to improve next on your devices.
     
  9. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68030

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    Siri is software, and software is always evolving.

    Still, the amount of work that Siri or Alexa have to do if left on constantly in the background is substantial - monitoring for "Hey Siri" in a noisy environment can be pretty resource-intensive. Among other things, that could mean substantial reduction in battery life for the remote (the mic has to be somewhere nearby, you can't depend on a mic in the ATV black box to pick up commands from across the room, especially if the TV speakers are near the ATV). Alexa is plugged into power, and I wouldn't be willing to bet that it works all that well if someone is watching a loud movie at the same time.

    Currently, Siri on the Apple TV Remote app works the same way it does on the physical remote - you have to hold the Siri button. It's not integrated with iPhone's Siri capabilities. For example, I can use iPhone Siri to open the Apple TV Remote app, but I can't tell iPhone Siri to "Play The Wizard of Oz." For now. That has to change, and I expect it will. The work they're doing for Siri and the Home app in iOS 10 is going to propagate. (I wonder how many Home Kit users are going to rename their garage door "pod bay doors?")

    Siri has to be ubiquitous, controlling every device, every app, regardless of how Siri is summoned. I should be able to say, "Hey Siri, play The Wizard of Oz on my living room Apple TV" from my iPhone, iPad, Macs, Watch, Car Play... Siri might reply, "ApfelKuchen, you're not home, are you sure you want to do that?"
     
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    I'm of the feeling that with all these hacking stories lately that we should wary of online services in the future!
     
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    The only practice that totally avoids hacking is antiseptic isolation. No connection to a network, no installation of software...

    To live in this world, we have to take risks. Our inability to properly judge the magnitude of a particular risk is at least as big a problem as the risks themselves.

    There will always be stories about bad things happening to good people. Shark attacks, armed robberies, rare infectious diseases, and yes, hacking. That's what keeps the news media in business. So, don't go swimming, be sure to bar your doors and don't leave the home without an armed escort, never come close to other human beings, and don't use computers.
     
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    Maybe using two factor settings on web sites might be great decision that people should start with if they want to be safe from hacking!
     
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    Excluding the ones that are obviously sarcastic, this might be the most "first world problem" thing I have ever read.
     
  14. mrex macrumors 68030

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    we dont even have siri in atv here :p

    and to be honest, i dont complain... siri in iphone is so dumb blonde that i dont miss her at all..
     
  15. cynics macrumors G4

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    Oh I actually like pressing the Siri button! I like that it only listens while I'm holding it down too.

    Do you know how many times I've said "Hey Siri blah blah blah blah" to my iPhone 6S to see it not respond? Its a lot. And every time is equally frustrating almost laughable as I'm modulating my voice "Hey SIri...Hey siRI...HEY SIRI!!!"

    With the ATV I know without a shadow of a doubt its going to hear me and start processing. Now whether Siri is hearing me correctly is a different story.

    Plus I'm already whispering "Hey Siri" into my iPhone because I don't want my other iOS devices in other rooms to start reacting.

    If it was a feature I would implement it like this...its listening from the ATV itself and you can change ALL Siri devices to react to their own dedicated names ex. Hey iPad, Hey TV, Hey iPhone, Hey iMac.
     
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    If you think Apple is watching these boards on here then you have some learning to do. If it was up to Apple these boards and web site would be shutdown in a heartbeat! :eek:
     
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    I think most companies understand the value of social media by now. They may prefer to control the discussion, they may prefer to never hear criticism, but in the end, buzz is buzz, and the specifics of the conversation tend to become become noise from which only the brand name emerges: "Blah, blah, blah Apple, blah blah Apple, blah blah blah blah Apple..."
     
  18. satcomer macrumors 603

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    If you don't think this isn't true the why did ThinkSecret Shuts Down Settles Apple Lawsuit? Apple doesn'rot like rumors and I feel Arn lives is fear of being sued by Apple!
     

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