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But there are some areas that iPhones win hands down and Android just isn't bothering.

A big one for me is getting photos off my phone onto my Mac. I haven't done it for years because it just never works. I've only had my S8 for a couple of months so hadn't yet tried. I've just attempted it and yet again are met with "Could not connect to device".

I could transfer via Bluetooth but that'd take weeks. The photos are on a micro SD card, so I could take it out and plug it into my Mac but I have no idea where my adaptor is.

With iPhone, it'd be seamless.

Incidentally, I've tried "restarting and reconnecting" my device. Neither worked.

It's funny you mention getting photos from your phone.

It used to be really easy on the iPhone since I could connect it to either my Mac or Windows machine and see the files, copy or cut them onto the computer.

Apple changed it and now it has to be done via importing via the Photos app that wants to import it into its own library and analyze everything... takes much longer and they end up buried in the file system.
 
In general Android design is easier with nav and doing multi tasking.

E.g.

very common use case.

1. You are doing something (say reading e-book). Notification comes in (whatsapp/email/whatever).
2. Click notification to view message. Inside the message is a web link. You want to see the link before replying.
3. Click on weblink to open web page. Inside the webpage there is also a youtube video
4. Click on video to view.

On Android after you have done with (4), you tap global back button and you are at (3) to finish the article, then you tap back button again and you are at (2) to type and send your reply and then you tap back button which takes you back to what you were doing before in (1).

Using Iphone, you have to use your task manager to switch back and forth to previous app every step of the way and making a conscious effort to remember what you were doing before and which app to move back to up the chain. This is so more tedious and less coherent.
Why wouldn’t you just swipe right at the bottom of the screen to go back to what you were doing before. No need to bring up task manager.
 
It's funny you mention getting photos from your phone.

It used to be really easy on the iPhone since I could connect it to either my Mac or Windows machine and see the files, copy or cut them onto the computer.

Apple changed it and now it has to be done via importing via the Photos app that wants to import it into its own library and analyze everything... takes much longer and they end up buried in the file system.

On a Mac, you can use Image Capture (via USB) or Air Drop (WiFi), and manage the images any way you'd like. :)
 
It's funny you mention getting photos from your phone.

It used to be really easy on the iPhone since I could connect it to either my Mac or Windows machine and see the files, copy or cut them onto the computer.

Apple changed it and now it has to be done via importing via the Photos app that wants to import it into its own library and analyze everything... takes much longer and they end up buried in the file system.
And actually, I've worked it out now. Once you know what to do on Android it's very easy. But it should be easier.
 
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Hierarchy is better realized on Android as hamburger menus are more intuitive than tab buttons, which Apple foolishly insists on. Android is easier because it doesn't have bloatware like iOS: GarageBand, iMovie, Music Memos, Clips, iTunes U. On Android, you can actually DO things. The user interface on Android emphases concepts like wayfinding, feedback, visibility, consistency, mental model, proximity, grouping, mapping, affordance, progressive disclosure, 80/20 rule, and symmetry.
 
Hierarchy is better realized on Android as hamburger menus are more intuitive than tab buttons, which Apple foolishly insists on. Android is easier because it doesn't have bloatware like iOS: GarageBand, iMovie, Music Memos, Clips, iTunes U. On Android, you can actually DO things. The user interface on Android emphases concepts like wayfinding, feedback, visibility, consistency, mental model, proximity, grouping, mapping, affordance, progressive disclosure, 80/20 rule, and symmetry.
None of which you have to use or even install now. Besides, android is almost never without bloatware of some kind unless you have a Pixel.
 
Good then, cuz it doesn’t.
Don’t know why you’re trying to work on a phone but sounds like iPhone does everything you need.
Haha! HAHA!

No.

I can't get signal in the country, I can't fill out forms in safari without refreshes, my battery dies quickly because my data is unstable...

I'm using a V30+ as my dd.
 
Haha! HAHA!

No.

I can't get signal in the country, I can't fill out forms in safari without refreshes, my battery dies quickly because my data is unstable...

I'm using a V30+ as my dd.
Your country having bad service isn’t a problem with the iPhone. Safari doesn’t refresh when filling out forums, don’t know what you’re talking about.

Sounds like either you don’t know how to use your phone or you have a defective phone because nobody else has these problems.
 
Your country having bad service isn’t a problem with the iPhone. Safari doesn’t refresh when filling out forums, don’t know what you’re talking about.

Sounds like either you don’t know how to use your phone or you have a defective phone because nobody else has these problems.
Nobody huh?

Guess as much as I "don't know how to use my phone" you don't read all the complaint threads on here.
 
Nobody huh?

Guess as much as I "don't know how to use my phone" you don't read all the complaint threads on here.
Forums like this is what you call an unrepresentative sample, people who don’t have problems with their phone tend not to be on here at all. All of you are extreme minorities.
 
Forums like this is what you call an unrepresentative sample, people who don’t have problems with their phone tend not to be on here at all. All of you are extreme minorities.
Cool. I am on every technical forum I can find simply because I (usually) enjoy talking about tech.

So if people are mostly here due to problems, are you?
 
One thing I just noticed today with iOS is when I post videos here it goes directly into its video player app. I can only view it that way and I can't just type stuff on the message box while it plays. On Android, I usually play it while I go still scroll to read or type.

This is why Michael Fisher saying is we become too boxed in. There should be multiple pathways like sideloading apps or making certain ones the default. With iOS, it's their way or the highway.
 
Cool. I am on every technical forum I can find simply because I (usually) enjoy talking about tech.

So if people are mostly here due to problems, are you?
No, I am also a minority. Most people simply don’t browse forums or talk about tech.
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One thing I just noticed today with iOS is when I post videos here it goes directly into its video player app. I can only view it that way and I can't just type stuff on the message box while it plays. On Android, I usually play it while I go still scroll to read or type.

This is why Michael Fisher saying is we become too boxed in. There should be multiple pathways like sideloading apps or making certain ones the default. With iOS, it's their way or the highway.

Without the walls, anybody can get in, including jokers who are no good at all in app development. I rather not have that. I love seeing ****** devs having their ****** apps rejected.
 
As much as I love iOS I think Apple have gotten way off course with it in recent editions. It feels like a lot of changes in iOS 11 are changes for the sake of making it different, not making it better. Certainly on the iPhone side. I like that they have tried to rethink interactions for the new iPhone X design, and it does seem better than what had become a bit of a clutter of ‘where can we put this’ gestures, but from what I’ve seen it’s still quite a stilted experience. The iPad multitasking features are generally better; but with the big exception of no longer being able to pull in a new app from the side, and having to either keep everything you might want to use in a very cluttered dock, or else close the app you’re using, find and hold the app you want to multitask with, and re open the first app again. Really clunky.
 
I keep hearing this by watching videos that Android is more of a pocket computer than the iPhone and has more productivity. The iPhone is great for basic stuff. Seems like most of the people who prefer Android are power users vs people like me who does basic stuff when on a computer or smartphone.

You keep coming back around to this thesis of yours that Android users are technical power users and iPhone users are not... or that Android phones are more "productive" (which is a vague term). I know plenty of highly technical power users who depend on iOS for a great many things beyond what most people do with their iPhones. I'm one of them... you should try shadowing me for a day. :D I also work with and support Android users who would say the same thing. Why try to reduce a comparison between two complex platforms to the, "there are two types of people in this world" cliche?

Different users have different needs, wants, and expectations. Some have a short list, and others have a very long and detailed list. For most people, either Android or iOS will meet their requirements. For some people there will be requirements only met by Android phones, and perhaps only by a very short list of Android phones. Or maybe their requirements will only be met by one or two models of iPhone. You can get into the details of which platform meets those needs better or more efficiently, but that is getting into more subjective territory. I do highly technical work and I expect quite a lot from my iPhone (and my iPad and Apple Watch). If it wasn't working out for me, I'd have no problem giving Android a try. Even though I'm a power user, my list of requirements that I would describe as power usage are not going to be the same as someone who arrives at the conclusion that only Android will work for them. Many of our requirements might match up, but that person might care about one or two things that I don't or vice versa.

Sean
 
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You keep coming back around to this thesis of yours that Android users are technical power users and iPhone users are not... or that Android phones are more "productive" (which is a vague term). I know plenty of highly technical power users who depend on iOS for a great many things beyond what most people do with their iPhones. I'm one of them... you should try shadowing me for a day. :D I also work with and support Android users who would say the same thing. Why try to reduce a comparison between two complex platforms to the, "there are two types of people in this world" cliche?

Different users have different needs, wants, and expectations. Some have a short list, and others have a very long and detailed list. For most people, either Android or iOS will meet their requirements. For some people there will be requirements only met by Android phones, and perhaps only by a very short list of Android phones. Or maybe their requirements will only be met by one or two models of iPhone. You can get into the details of which platform meets those needs better or more efficiently, but that is getting into more subjective territory. I do highly technical work and I expect quite a lot from my iPhone (and my iPad and Apple Watch). If it wasn't working out for me, I'd have no problem giving Android a try. Even though I'm a power user, my list of requirements that I would describe as power usage are not going to be the same as someone who arrives at the conclusion that only Android will work for them. Many of our requirements might match up, but that person might care about one or two things that I don't or vice versa.

Sean
Probably because they want to say they are better than everyone else, other people who don’t choose android because they aren’t as sophisticated as they are.
 
Probably because they want to say they are better than everyone else, other people who don’t choose android because they aren’t as sophisticated as they are.
Kinda similar to Apple fanatics or apologists who seem to take everything said to the extreme.
 
You keep coming back around to this thesis of yours that Android users are technical power users and iPhone users are not...

Those types of posts are cute - we had a group chuckle in another thread, i.e., "Yo, I äm hakor l33t, rootin' my droid ~n~ pwer uzering sum icons!!11#!"

:D
 
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Got a nice $50 Huawei XT2 Android 5.5” phone on Black Friday. My second Android phone. Using it as a backup / couch phone tablet.

Really like the phone, but the keyboard isn’t as responsive as any of my iPhones and the bloody awful scrolling inertia still hasn’t been improved over the years.

Can’t complain though, as it’s an incredible device for $50.
 
But there are some areas that iPhones win hands down and Android just isn't bothering.

A big one for me is getting photos off my phone onto my Mac. I haven't done it for years because it just never works. I've only had my S8 for a couple of months so hadn't yet tried. I've just attempted it and yet again are met with "Could not connect to device".

I could transfer via Bluetooth but that'd take weeks. The photos are on a micro SD card, so I could take it out and plug it into my Mac but I have no idea where my adaptor is.

With iPhone, it'd be seamless.

Incidentally, I've tried "restarting and reconnecting" my device. Neither worked.
For the S8 you have two designed choices:
- Connect via USB cable to your pc (wired)
- Utilize Google photos and then pull what you want or share what you want via Google Drive (this works well)

There are likely others but these basics do work well.
 
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