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I wouldn't use third party on an ipad, apple doesn't give them access to that java nitro deal so they are all slower and inferior.

I use Puffin. It is way faster than Safari and not experiencing crashes at least for the 4 days I've been using it. Also, supports flash.
 
I use Puffin. It is way faster than Safari and not experiencing crashes at least for the 4 days I've been using it. Also, supports flash.

Does it support flash the same way that proton does where you have to hit a button and its really laggy and crappy or is it like native flash support? Also I assume tabs still reload?
 
Just my .02 cents' worth:

Since October I've had the Nexus 7, Nexus 10, three Note 10.1's (indecisive/going back and forth), 2 iPad Airs, and 2 iPad retina Mini's.

I'm also a very indecisive person and kept wanting to know what was on the other side, and then missing what I had before, etc.

I have found that my perfect solution is the retina Mini.

Nexus 7 - don't like the elongated, narrow screen.

Nexus 10 - great tablet, but PDF annotation isn't there yet on Android.

Note 10.1 - 2014 edition - AWESOME for handwritten notes, but too laggy and again, no perfect PDF annotation app.

iPad Air - too big and cumbersome for my needs (watching in-flight movies on a nearly weekly basis, reading ebooks)

iPad Mini (retina) - almost perfect. I say almost because the S-Pen on the Note 10.1 is hard to forget. But other than that, it's great for movie watching, reading ebooks (like a paperback!), extremely portable but not too small (fits inside my winter coat pocket), the white with brown leather Smart Case looks sharp, very fluid and fast, and just a wonderful device.
 
Just my .02 cents' worth:

Since October I've had the Nexus 7, Nexus 10, three Note 10.1's (indecisive/going back and forth), 2 iPad Airs, and 2 iPad retina Mini's.

I'm also a very indecisive person and kept wanting to know what was on the other side, and then missing what I had before, etc.

I have found that my perfect solution is the retina Mini.

Nexus 7 - don't like the elongated, narrow screen.

Nexus 10 - great tablet, but PDF annotation isn't there yet on Android.

Note 10.1 - 2014 edition - AWESOME for handwritten notes, but too laggy and again, no perfect PDF annotation app.

iPad Air - too big and cumbersome for my needs (watching in-flight movies on a nearly weekly basis, reading ebooks)

iPad Mini (retina) - almost perfect. I say almost because the S-Pen on the Note 10.1 is hard to forget. But other than that, it's great for movie watching, reading ebooks (like a paperback!), extremely portable but not too small (fits inside my winter coat pocket), the white with brown leather Smart Case looks sharp, very fluid and fast, and just a wonderful device.

No problems with the Internet browsing on an ipad in comparison to the android devices?

The nexus 7 does look oddly proportioned, I noticed that from videos and images.

I feel like an ipad mini would work very well but I think id still get the full sized.
 
iPad Mini (retina) - almost perfect. I say almost because the S-Pen on the Note 10.1 is hard to forget. But other than that, it's great for movie watching, reading ebooks (like a paperback!), extremely portable but not too small (fits inside my winter coat pocket), the white with brown leather Smart Case looks sharp, very fluid and fast, and just a wonderful device.

If you are big into pdf annotation you should really try some of the new stylii available. The Jot Script 4 with Goodnotes is nearly as accurate as the stylus on my Surface Pro and in some senses, a lot nicer to use.

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No problems with the Internet browsing on an ipad in comparison to the android devices?

The nexus 7 does look oddly proportioned, I noticed that from videos and images.

I feel like an ipad mini would work very well but I think id still get the full sized.

I agree about the Nexus 7. The proportions are odd, the device is huge compared to the screen size you get. I can't shake the feeling I really am just using a large phone. I don't get that feeling at all on my full sized iPads.

If anything, in my experience, web browsing is every bit as good on an iPad, and sometimes better.
 
No problems with the Internet browsing on an ipad in comparison to the android devices?

I prefer the internet browsing experience on the iPad via Safari. I don't get as much jerkiness as I do on Android, and the "reader" option is excellent.

The Jot Script 4 with Goodnotes is nearly as accurate as the stylus on my Surface Pro and in some senses, a lot nicer to use.

I'm strongly considering trying the Script. It's been on back-order for a while, though, so I will have to wait.
 
I'm strongly considering trying the Script. It's been on back-order for a while, though, so I will have to wait.

Sorry, I mis-spoke. I have both the Touch and the Script. The Script was delivered in about a week. Right now, the Touch is considerably better. The Script should improve as they improve the SDK, but my feeling is that it will be, at best, as good as the Touch is right now. Granted you don't have the disc to deal with, but so what if it's not accurate? The Touch also has some other benefits that the Script doesn't get like shortcut buttons, pressure sensitivity (which provides a movable, dampened tip just like a good pen, even if you don't care about changing the thickness of your lines), auto-connect (vs. a 3-minute shut-off) and over a month of battery on about 15 minutes of recharge time, vs. ~2 weeks on a AAA.
 
Sorry, I mis-spoke. I have both the Touch and the Script. The Script was delivered in about a week. Right now, the Touch is considerably better. The Script should improve as they improve the SDK, but my feeling is that it will be, at best, as good as the Touch is right now. Granted you don't have the disc to deal with, but so what if it's not accurate? The Touch also has some other benefits that the Script doesn't get like shortcut buttons, pressure sensitivity (which provides a movable, dampened tip just like a good pen, even if you don't care about changing the thickness of your lines), auto-connect (vs. a 3-minute shut-off) and over a month of battery on about 15 minutes of recharge time, vs. ~2 weeks on a AAA.

Watched Script video, not impressed - the lag is obvious and annoying. After using Dell Active Stylus ($30) in OneNote on Venue 8 Pro, I'm blown away. There's positively absolutely no lag when you draw on the screen. It's literally as if liquid pixels are flowing from the tip. In the Script video, it's more like echo. Is there a stylus for iPad matching Dell's performance? I really want a good stylus for my rMini, not this overhyped, overprices, bulky stuff.
 
Well I haven't been obsessing too much, the past week or so is when I've been taking strong consideration to this purchase, but I have wanted an ipad for a while. My gut is definitely telling me the ipad will be the best and anything else is compromise but still the 1gb bothers me, it's just a matter of overhead, I mean with 2gb by today's mobile standards (especially for ios) that's a decent overhead, but 1gb doesn't sound like all that much.

The odd thing to me though is that there really aren't any people reviewing the ipad mentioning the ram negatively at all. I've only seen posts on here really stating its an issue and my slight usage at the apple store isn't exactly real world performance or enough to give an accurate run through.

The thing is though I do live about an hour and half from the apple store so returning it would be a bit of a hassle. How long do you even have to return it if you do not like it? Ideally I would like to purchase this before Christmas.

Also if one were to purchase apple care plus and a case do they refund that as well?

Here is what I will tell you from my experience.

First off, the amount of tab reloading on what is supposed to be the brand-new, top-of-the-line iPad Air or rMini is unacceptable considering the price. Apple cheaped out, and it shows. And that's on two fronts, IMO - RAM and screen quality. Apple's falling prey to exactly what they like to admonish - putting specs over the experience. They jack up the number of pixels on a poor-quality screen. They doubled the RAM when quadrupling it would have added only a few extra dollars to the cost.

With that said, you will experience the same amount of tab reloading on a 2 GB RAM Nexus 7 as on an 1 GB iPad. Apple does a great job at optimizing their devices to run well on lower specs, but 1 GB isn't nearly enough to provide a good experience as far as tab reloading goes. It works on the iPhone's mobile websites, but not the iPad's desktop sites. And Nexus 7 won't solve that issue either.

So you should probably make your decision on some other basis than tab reloading, because they're essentially the same in that regard. Whether that's price, build quality, comfort, portability, apps, smoothness, customizability, whatever - that's up to you.
 
Here is what I will tell you from my experience.

First off, the amount of tab reloading on what is supposed to be the brand-new, top-of-the-line iPad Air or rMini is unacceptable considering the price. Apple cheaped out, and it shows. And that's on two fronts, IMO - RAM and screen quality. Apple's falling prey to exactly what they like to admonish - putting specs over the experience. They jack up the number of pixels on a poor-quality screen. They doubled the RAM when quadrupling it would have added only a few extra dollars to the cost.

With that said, you will experience the same amount of tab reloading on a 2 GB RAM Nexus 7 as on an 1 GB iPad. Apple does a great job at optimizing their devices to run well on lower specs, but 1 GB isn't nearly enough to provide a good experience as far as tab reloading goes. It works on the iPhone's mobile websites, but not the iPad's desktop sites. And Nexus 7 won't solve that issue either.

So you should probably make your decision on some other basis than tab reloading, because they're essentially the same in that regard. Whether that's price, build quality, comfort, portability, apps, smoothness, customizability, whatever - that's up to you.

Well I love (speaking from phone experience) ios far more than I liked android so I think that if both are going to have tab reloading then for me personally it would be foolish to get android on a tablet, unless I need a budget tablet that is, which I'm not really looking for right now.

I'm used to the tab reloading on my iPhone 4S so if its better than the 4s ill probably be happy.
 
Watched Script video, not impressed - the lag is obvious and annoying. After using Dell Active Stylus ($30) in OneNote on Venue 8 Pro, I'm blown away. There's positively absolutely no lag when you draw on the screen. It's literally as if liquid pixels are flowing from the tip. In the Script video, it's more like echo. Is there a stylus for iPad matching Dell's performance? I really want a good stylus for my rMini, not this overhyped, overprices, bulky stuff.

Precision inking on the ipad is all about matching the app to the stylus. Most apps don't give more than cursory effort to their inking engines and it shows if you try to use the screen in any way resembling a piece of paper. Goodnotes is by far the best at this, and Penultimate is ok but overall far behind.

There is a slight amount of lag in Goodnotes with the Script, but virtually none with the Jot Touch and it is good enough that I've probably got 100 pages of handwritten, single-spaced text written in the last month alone, most of it with no zoom at all. It's a really really good combination, even compared to an active digitizer.
 
Sorry, I mis-spoke. I have both the Touch and the Script. The Script was delivered in about a week. Right now, the Touch is considerably better. The Script should improve as they improve the SDK, but my feeling is that it will be, at best, as good as the Touch is right now. Granted you don't have the disc to deal with, but so what if it's not accurate? The Touch also has some other benefits that the Script doesn't get like shortcut buttons, pressure sensitivity (which provides a movable, dampened tip just like a good pen, even if you don't care about changing the thickness of your lines), auto-connect (vs. a 3-minute shut-off) and over a month of battery on about 15 minutes of recharge time, vs. ~2 weeks on a AAA.

I read in a review that if you do not actually connect the Script to the app (turn on the power but not the connectivity option within the actual app), it's much more accurate. Can you try this and let me know if it is true?

I was tempted to try the Touch, with the little disc, but I read in some reviews that some dust or other particles get trapped under the disc and can scratch the screen. So I'm pretty terrified of considering this as an option.
 
I read in a review that if you do not actually connect the Script to the app (turn on the power but not the connectivity option within the actual app), it's much more accurate. Can you try this and let me know if it is true?

I was tempted to try the Touch, with the little disc, but I read in some reviews that some dust or other particles get trapped under the disc and can scratch the screen. So I'm pretty terrified of considering this as an option.

It is somewhat better when not paired, which is a good thing because that means they can fix it in software. It's still nowhere near as good as the Touch however.

I guess I can see that happening with the disc, but it seems unlikely for the most part. You'd notice as soon as you started writing and wipe it off. Like I said, I've written over 100 pages so far and have never had this experience. The feel is excellent in fact.
 
I just happened to be by a best buy today so I went with the intention of buying an air, unfortunately they were out of 128 gb att LTE models so I sat around the store checking out the iPads.

Every ipad air and r mini 2 I used froze up and lagged on safari, I closed out every other app in all of them, furthermore I encountered about 3 or 4 crashes on the multiple airs and 2 r minis I tested. Something isn't right, I used a regular mini and the web browsing was WAY smoother and the tabs ( from the little I used) seemed to reload less.

Will be going back to the apple store soon and ill try more there but this was a concerning experience. I would imagine that it's a software issue but there's no way to know for sure.

Well just got an ipad air, time to try it out.
 
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I'm always amazed that anyone actually looks for reasons NOT to buy an iPad. An iPad is the best tablet, so if you want a tablet, get an iPad. I've had every other generation of iPad, from original, to iPad 3 to an iPad Air. I'm pretty much a power user and I've never once had any of the problems others complain about in this forum. So, my idea of iPad's functionality and reliability might be on the high end. Still, if you don't get an iPad it mystifies me how you think an Android or Windows tablet will be better than an iPad, as opposed to merely different.
 
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