Am I in Trouble?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by cslewis, Apr 2, 2006.

  1. cslewis macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2004
    40º27.8''N, 75º42.8''W
    Okay, imagine this. Let's say that my school issued each of its students iBooks, which administrators could watch at school. Let's also say that that computer included iChat, which a certain kid might have wanted to use. What if he found a way to bypass OSX's blocking for that application so that he could use it? What, if after weeks of using it, he got a tip-off from some kids in the tech support room that he was going to get in trouble for using that application? Is it possible for that kid to get in trouble?

    In addition, what if that same kid used AIM on his own time to impersonate the principal? Could he get in trouble for that, too?

    Thanks. :eek:
  2. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor


    Staff Member

    Jan 20, 2005
  3. kretzy macrumors 604


    Sep 11, 2004
    Canberra, Australia
    Um...yes I think you're in trouble.

    AIM probably wasn't that bigger deal, but impersonating the principal probably is.

    Time to escape on that tractor.
  4. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    Buy a new iBook, and give them that. And call it even:D

    But ya your screwed unless you either one

    1) tell the truth

    2) Kill the iBook but blame it one a software/hardware failer(bad idea because if you get caught your screwed even more!, and if it was hardware you would hvae to make your the had to reinstall OS X, dead hard drive?)

    3) Make a new friend in the tech Deparment and have them turn a blind eye to it:D
  5. FocusAndEarnIt macrumors 601


    May 29, 2005
    I don't think you're in any trouble for the impersonating, as you're not on there network so they can't watch you. Unless you save IMs, they could dig that up.

    And you MIGHT be in trouble. Doesn't mean you are, so just stop. :)
  6. Electro Funk macrumors 65816

    Electro Funk

    Dec 8, 2005
    The Opium Garden
    Lol... I hope it is a souped up tractor...:p
  7. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

    May 2, 2005
    They blocked iChat because they didn't want you using it.

    I'd say you're in trouble.

    But instead of dancing around it, just fess up to it. They may go easier on you.
  8. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603


    Aug 20, 2005
    Thank you Jah...I'm so Blessed
    Oh yea, it's coming for ya....the hit the fan.

  9. cycocelica macrumors 68000


    Apr 28, 2005
    Redmond, WA
    Well if you did impersonate a principal you might get in trouble. But if you just used AIM or iChat, what are they going to do? I mean really, its a program. Oh you rebel you. Quickly change your identity and move to Montana.
  10. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

    Jul 29, 2005
    Just confess because they might dig up other "fake" dirt on you and use it against you.

    Just a quick questions since im going from student to IT, how did you break the security?
  11. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

    May 2, 2005
    but they blocked it for a reason. There's no way he could've "accidentally" re-enabled iChat or AIM. He knew what he was doing when he broke the security. Using school technology for purposes not related to school is a big no-no, at least in my district. (praise jebus, they finally blocked myspace.)
  12. jsfpa macrumors regular


    Oct 26, 2003
    Deny, Deny,Deny

    "I didn't know it wasn't supposed to work, I just tried it and it did"
    "I thought everybody was doing it"
  13. greatdevourer macrumors 68000

    Aug 5, 2005
    Hehe, I once saw a tractor break the speed limit! :eek:

    It definatly used to be there, and I wouldn't be suprised if it still is - go to textedit, open the app in it, close textedit, go to recent items, load it from there. Why they don't just bin the apps they don't want you to use, I don't know...

    Was it a good impersonation? :D
  14. Tymmz macrumors 65816


    Jan 6, 2005
    Just tell them how you got iChat to work and you won't do it again.

    And tell them you are sorry and it was fun to bypass the block.

    I think you are fine unless you lie.
  15. sushi Moderator emeritus


    Jul 19, 2002
    I tend to agree not knowing your school policies.

    You have a big decision ahead of you. Do you tell the truth and fess up or do you lie and maybe get out of it.

    This is definitely a character building situation for you.

    Personally, I would suggest telling the truth. You may get punished but you still have your honor. Everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle them that counts.
  16. cslewis thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2004
    40º27.8''N, 75º42.8''W
    Well... first of all, my method is a bit more complicated (but hilariously funny). If you PM me, I'll tell you how it's done.

    The impersonation? I had half the school talking about it. :D

    Thanks, guys, for the suggestions. If I get called to the office, I'll just spill everything. I'm hoping that'll keep me out of trouble. If that doesn't work, did I mention this? I did these things at home.

    Attached Files:

  17. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    No, no, don't tell the truth! Haven't you learned anything over the last six years?

    Tell them that the best information you had at the time indicated that terrorists were using iChat to communicate with each other, and that you could not wait for a disaster to happen, so you had to check it out. Blame it on an information failure, and insist that there's no way you could have known that terrorists were not using your iBook to communicate with each other. If anyone questions your story, question their patriotism and call them soft on terror.

    Blame the principal impersonation on the liberal media.
  18. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    No doubt they're going to take your ibook away and kick your ass out of school.
    You better get on with applying to McDonalds because without an education you'll be serving fries with that for a long time!
  19. maestro55 macrumors 68030


    Nov 13, 2005
    Goat Farm in Meridian, TX
    I have received many lectures for bypassing certain blocks using proxy servers, or gaining administration privileges on school computers. I have been threatened with banning from our network. However, I am a risk taker, a rebel, and I like to prove that our network isn't fool proof. Because I am also a HUGE help for the computer teacher, and reporting problems to the district tech admin, and partly because my father was the network admin for my school and several other schools (there is a Co-Op of schools in my area) for 21 years (until they layed his entire staff off and him in December, as the Co-Op is going down the drain). I have never gotten any more than lectures.

    So expect and except whatever happens, deal with it, and enjoy.
  20. CompUser Guest

    Then they will say that the iBook is school property.
  21. cslewis thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2004
    40º27.8''N, 75º42.8''W
    Well they said I had to be ON school property, not using school property. I mean... heck, I can stand on my iBook if they want me to. :D

    Any lawyers here to give me a bit of advice?
  22. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Impersonating the school principal shouldn't get you into trouble unless you were actually trying to be serious and get students to do things for you, or if you were trying to make them believe you were the Principal.

    However, if you said "impersonating" to imply that you were making fun of the principal and that it was obvious to everyone that it wasn't him, then that's fine. Making fun of the principal isn't against the rules, and if it is, who cares. They should get a sense of humour.
  23. CompUser Guest

    Well they could justify it as harassment or something.
  24. d_and_n5000 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 6, 2005
    Hmmm...Well, I certainly don't see whats wrong with using iChat, but there must have been a reason(most likely the school didn't want students IMing each other in class). I say fess up if you already know they know. For your side, you could say that you never used it during school hours on school property, and show conversation history to prove it, then you could only possibly get punished for getting around the blocker. Impersonating the principal, as Abstract said, would have to depend on the context you impersonated him/her. They will frown upon that, but nothing serious. They will probably only take serious action if it was in a way that you tried to get kids to do stuff.

    So, simply fess up, present the facts, and maybe they will go easy on you.
  25. CoMpX macrumors 65816


    Jun 29, 2005
    New Jersey
    If they do that then that is just wrong. I can't stand when people claim harassment over the stupidest of things. It's one of my pet peeves.

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