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I'm considering skipping a battery swap on my 12 Pro that is less than a year old and shows a max capacity of 87% already, in part because even when it was new, I never felt like the battery life was particularly good and I'm not what most would consider a "heavy" user. So, the alleged battery life improvements on the 13 Pro are appealing versus paying for a replacement and taking my chances that the battery life is better in my 12 Pro.
I'm noticing my 12 Pro is showing exactly 87% max capacity, just like yours. How could I have had so much degradation already? Seems worse than I remember in models past.
 
I have an iPhone 11 that I financed through Apple (not IUP, similar to another user on here). Was considering keeping it until the wheels fall off, but the $1000 credit to upgrade to an iPhone 13 Pro from AT&T seems like a no-brainer? Already on an unlimited plan, have been with AT&T since 2010 with no plans to switch. I have a beater unlocked iPhone 7 for any potential overseas travel.

However, 36 months is a really long time to feel 'locked' into a phone, but I suppose I can pay it off and trade it in if the 14/15/16 phones are really compelling.
 
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I have an iPhone 11 that I financed through Apple (not IUP, similar to another user on here). Was considering keeping it until the wheels fall off, but the $1000 credit to upgrade to an iPhone 13 Pro from AT&T seems like a no-brainer? Already on an unlimited plan, have been with AT&T since 2010 with no plans to switch. I have a beater unlocked iPhone 7 for any potential overseas travel.

However, 36 months is a really long time to feel 'locked' into a phone, but I suppose I can pay it off and trade it in if the 14/15/16 phones are really compelling.
I’m definitely leaning toward this. I don’t mind being “locked” to AT&T and if I really want out I’ll pay it off.
 
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This is where being the head of a family plan is really advantageous.

If I trade in my phone today for $1000 credit towards a 13 Pro, there will be a phone nearly ready to be paid off by my husband or 3 children next year or year after. In which case they’ll happily accept a gently used iPhone 13 Pro for their 11 or 12. And I can can use that older phone for the next upgrade. Everyone wins!
 
This is where being the head of a family plan is really advantageous.

If I trade in my phone today for $1000 credit towards a 13 Pro, there will be a phone nearly ready to be paid off by my husband or 3 children next year or year after. In which case they’ll happily accept a gently used iPhone 13 Pro for their 11 or 12. And I can can use that older phone for the next upgrade. Everyone wins!

I used to do this in the 2 year contract days but now everyone has different preferences so we don't really have eligible devices for trade-in to maximize the subsidy.
 
It’s been years since I bought through AT&T. To get this deal do I need to order from the AT&T website or can I place my order through Apple’s site/app and just choose the AT&T option?
 
It’s been years since I bought through AT&T. To get this deal do I need to order from the AT&T website or can I place my order through Apple’s site/app and just choose the AT&T option?

This year you can buy and do the trade-in via Apple. Just make sure to use the AT&T installment option and don't choose the normal Apple trade-in.
 
This year you can buy and do the trade-in via Apple. Just make sure to use the AT&T installment option and don't choose the normal Apple trade-in.
I may be missing something in the app. I choose "No" when it asks if I want to trade in a phone with Apple, then I choose the AT8T Installment Plan to pay monthly. Where will it ask me if I want to trade in my phone with AT&T (via Apple)?
 
This year you can buy and do the trade-in via Apple. Just make sure to use the AT&T installment option and don't choose the normal Apple trade-in.
Sweet. I think I'm all set with my pre-preorder. Can't pass up $1,000. My only question is am I sending my old phone to Apple or AT&T? The email confirmation suggests I'm sending it to Apple.
 
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if your cost of capital is the short rate, there are other issues
Really. Um im offered a Jumbo Mtge @ 2.5%. Margin (if ever needed it) @.75 bps. How you doing? That’s what my COST of capital is. It’s also called ECO 101…
 
This year you can buy and do the trade-in via Apple. Just make sure to use the AT&T installment option and don't choose the normal Apple trade-in.
Can anyone confirm this in writing? The apple chat couldn't understand that I didn't want to trade in to Apple. The At&T chat said I should order through At&T to make sure it happens correctly.

I have a pre-preorder set up at Apple, and I'd really like to do it that way tomorrow. If I can be sure I'm still eligible for the $1000 Apple trade in credits.
 
I have two questions here that haven't seemed to be answered that I am still confused about. On its face, this deal is a no-brainer for me. The chance to get $1000 off when I trade in my XS Max, when Apple will only give me $320 off sounds great. I also understand the 36-month term requirements, but since I plan to keep it for a long time it isn't that big of a deal.

My first issue has to do with the carrier lock-in. Yes, this requires me to be on AT&T, and I understand that this means the phone is locked for AT&T. What I cannot figure out, even after talking to support, is if this means my phone will still be locked to AT&T after the 36-month term is over OR if I pay it off earlier. I plan on getting married soon and my fiance and I will likely join phone plans and may switch to Verizon. If that is the case, I may be in 18-24 months looking to pay off the balance (losing some credits, obviously) and switch carriers. Does anyone know if this "lock" on my phone will persist even if I pay off all contractual obligations?

Additionally, if I were to pay off the phone early, say, after 24 months, the contract only states that I will lose the "remaining credits." Does this mean that I will keep the approximately $650 in credits that I would have received at that point, so I only have to pay 1/3 the true value of the phone?

Thanks to anyone who can help! If my concerns are addressed, I will be doing this promo, because an additional $700 in value is too good to beat, even with the headache that is AT&T.
 
I’m definitely leaning toward this. I don’t mind being “locked” to AT&T and if I really want out I’ll pay it off.
Is that how it works though? I am tempted by this as well - but if I want out of ATT in 24 months can I pay it off and have my phone unlocked?
 
FYI. Unlike last care AT&T is actually offering Bill credits on a next up early upgrade ((!!)

meaning when you turn in the phone for an early upgrade they will credit you up to $500 back over the life of the phone. That’s pretty impressive. The credits cease once you upgrade the phone again. But this allows you to get a better phone for the money even on the next up program. I’m not sure if the Apple site will allow this but last year you could do the trade-in on next up and still order from Apple

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I have two questions here that haven't seemed to be answered that I am still confused about. On its face, this deal is a no-brainer for me. The chance to get $1000 off when I trade in my XS Max, when Apple will only give me $320 off sounds great. I also understand the 36-month term requirements, but since I plan to keep it for a long time it isn't that big of a deal.

My first issue has to do with the carrier lock-in. Yes, this requires me to be on AT&T, and I understand that this means the phone is locked for AT&T. What I cannot figure out, even after talking to support, is if this means my phone will still be locked to AT&T after the 36-month term is over OR if I pay it off earlier. I plan on getting married soon and my fiance and I will likely join phone plans and may switch to Verizon. If that is the case, I may be in 18-24 months looking to pay off the balance (losing some credits, obviously) and switch carriers. Does anyone know if this "lock" on my phone will persist even if I pay off all contractual obligations?

Additionally, if I were to pay off the phone early, say, after 24 months, the contract only states that I will lose the "remaining credits." Does this mean that I will keep the approximately $650 in credits that I would have received at that point, so I only have to pay 1/3 the true value of the phone?

Thanks to anyone who can help! If my concerns are addressed, I will be doing this promo, because an additional $700 in value is too good to beat, even with the headache that is AT&T.
You keep the credits who already received but you do not get any more after you turn it in
 
Can anyone confirm this in writing? The apple chat couldn't understand that I didn't want to trade in to Apple. The At&T chat said I should order through At&T to make sure it happens correctly.

I have a pre-preorder set up at Apple, and I'd really like to do it that way tomorrow. If I can be sure I'm still eligible for the $1000 Apple trade in credits.

Verbiage in the Apple app says that trade in will be with Apple that sends a for you to return, even while selecting AT&T. I did my pre-pre order in the app with trade in for the $1000 credit.

I’m assuming they then verify with your carrier that you turned in the device you said you had, which is why they included language like “credits apply after three cycles.”

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FYI. Unlike last care AT&T is actually offering Bill credits on a next up early upgrade ((!!)

meaning when you turn in the phone for an early upgrade they will credit you up to $500 back over the life of the phone. That’s pretty impressive. The credits cease once you upgrade the phone again. But this allows you to get a better phone for the money even on the next up program. I’m not sure if the Apple site will allow this but last year you could do the trade-in on next up and still order from Apple

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Really ‘locking’ people in on a deal like this. If wanted to leave, you would have to pay off 2 discount plans.
 
I used a carrier deal for my iPhone mini for the first time last year. I don’t like being locked in and paying over time. Not worth the hassle to me, and I will go back to just buying outright.

if you buy a new iPhone outright and put the mini aside but keep same Service and line you have do you keep getting bill credits ?
 
I used a carrier deal for my iPhone mini for the first time last year. I don’t like being locked in and paying over time. Not worth the hassle to me, and I will go back to just buying outright.
I get your point. It is free money though for how ever long keep it. Ya, they are making 36 months because know most won’t keep that long or the device will not have much value after that long.
 
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