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Am I screwed into getting into University in Canada?

Surely said:
How about you post some sources and statistics for what you've stated above? It's not very helpful when you pull a Fox News and present opinion as fact (Some people say....).

And your logic is flawed. Basically.


I agree that his/her outlook isn't rosy and the work ahead for him/her isn't going to be easy, but it's not all doom and gloom.
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you failed to quote the part of my post where I list my source haha. malcolm gladwell's books - esp Outliers. Goes through all different types of circumstances and situations highlighting what you do when you are young impacts the rest of your life. He does all of the studies and looks up prior historical stuff..blah blah blah.


I also have seen it first hand. Many of the low intelligence, unmotivated students in my HS class went on to lucrative careers in car mechanic shops, restaurants, and the unemployment line. To each his own. if you like cars, sure be a mechanic, but I wouldnt put that up in the category of successful careers.

The more I think about it, the more i think the OP is in trouble.
 
snberk103 said:
It depends on what you mean by "career"? If you are thinking of becoming a brain surgeon, then you are going to have spend some time upgrading courses - either by redoing some HS courses, or spending extra time at a university. And, if you look at universities in the boonies you will find some whose admission standards are lower than the big science ones.

If by career you mean one where a college diploma is sufficient, then I think you're fine. And don't downplay college diplomas. You can be the owner/cook of a 5 star restaurant with a college diploma. You can fly planes with a college diploma, etc etc.

So, it all depends on your career aspirations.
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Military is always an option

However, if it is like the US, to be an officer, you need a degree
 
waloshin said:
If I take this course http://futurewww.siast.sk.ca/programs_courses_descriptions/ADCDIP.shtml

And do well can I transfer to the University of Regina into there Social Worker program?

The program is recognized through a block credit transfer of 60 credit units with Athabasca University's Bachelor of Professional Arts, Human Services major.

* 13 credit hours of transfer credit are recognized through the University of Regina's Faculty of Social Work.

Transfer is considered on an individual basis with the University of Lethbridge's Health and Sciences Faculty, Addictions Counselling Program.
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Dude, seriously, stop asking for help like this on an internet forum. Talk to the schools' admissions department. Every college has their own requirements. They are the ones who will be able to give you an accurate answer to your questions.
 
Ok I am just going to say it.

Right now with your grades, your age and real life work experience
you do NOT have chance to get into a decent career building program.

Most public universities in Canada would not even look at your application.

and most of the non-university career programs would be hesitant to admit you with performance like your high school marks.

Even the military would most likely not accept you. Possibly as enlisted.

So one of your real choices is to get into a good college, get your **** together and pull up those grades to 80% avg minimum, with an Associate Degree it is easier to get into university than direct entry and cheaper too.

I notice that people who transfer in from college tend to do better in university courses because they are more focused and dedicated to their school work, rather than being there to please the parents/not have to get job.
 
Leareth said:
i will honestly say this.

you are screwed for getting into a decent university.

BUT you can do quite well in community college and then transfer in for third and fourth years.
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+1 vote! The community college can be a great route for you.
 
Hey,

I'm actually a grade twelve student who applied to university himself this year (I'm in Ontario though).

As harsh as it may sound, you don't have the grades for admission into any university in Canada (none that I know of anyway).

The lowest average requirements I saw for any university was around 65%, and even these universities would be hard pressed to admit students in and around the 65% mark.

College (which Americans call Community College) might be the best option for you.

Look through the admission requirements section of a few different colleges and see where you can possibly get in.

It also wouldn't be a bad idea to go back to high school for another year and pull up your averages in the courses required for admission.

I know the last option might seem drastic, and you might think you'll be 'disconnected' from everyone else who graduates with you from High school, but don't feel this way.

Seriously, there isn't a 'Graduation police' that stands-by and ostracizes you for graduating one or two years later. TONNES and I mean TONNES of kids take an extra year or so to bump up their marks, it's perfectly normal!

The other unsaid advantage of taking the extra year route is that you save lots of money. High school is free and you can stay as LONG as you want, and take AS MANY COURSES you want, take advantage of this.

Also keep in mind this is Canada, and that university graduates do not always end up being the 'successes' that everyone so adamantly preaches about. I have heard stories of plumbers making $100k++ a year, more than many degree wielders because they did a job that was in demand, and they did it well. Look into skilled trade work if you seem to be interested in this direction. This military is also another option, like some have mentioned.

As for you improving your habits, I suggest picking up some study guides from your local library (I personally like stuff by Cal Newport), googling study tips or find someone with high grades and ask them for advice. You have plenty of resources to help improve your studying, use them!

Don't worry too much man, it's great that you want to pursue some form of post-secondary education. Some kids would get discouraged with low marks, but you seem to be a very strong-willed individual and I applaud you for this! Determination to succeed is in itself is a thing to be proud about.

Hope this helps!

And feel free to ask me any questions via PM or email :)
 
airjuggernaut said:
Hey,
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It also wouldn't be a bad idea to go back to high school for another year and pull up your averages in the courses required for admission.
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Seriously, there isn't a 'Graduation police' that stands-by and ostracizes you for graduating one or two years later. TONNES and I mean TONNES of kids take an extra year or so to bump up their marks, it's perfectly normal!
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I've heard it called a "Victory Lap". I have a couple of nieces who went this route. One went to college in Ontario, and the other is in a Science Program on the East Coast. AirJuggernaut seems to know what they are talking about.
 
Am I screwed into getting into University in Canada?

My grade 12 average was 60%, I am 22, and I want to go away for Social Work. So I was wondering if I.

A) Get a part time job or full time job now as a Family Support Worker.

B) Intern or volunteer at the hospital as an addictions counsellor.

C) Apply as a Mature Student.

If I do all three would I get in especially if I get a letter of recommendation from the Addictions Counsellor manager, and once from the Family Support Worker manager?

I was thinking of the University of Regina, University of Manitoba, First Nations University of Canada. Ect
 
yes you are screwed.

unless you can demonstrate you can do better than your high school performance, then even the mature student category wont get you in.

why dont you follow the advice posted on your other thread and go to a community college? get your grades up and demonstrate you can do the uni level work.
plus the credits transfer , so its not like you will waste time
like you have been doing with all these tangents you have been pursuing.
 
Agree with the above, I would get your Associates degree and then apply to transfer in.
 
the problem is i have been told that i meet the requirements but there is no room. it was a first apply first in and there was hundreds before me. so I would have to wait a year.
 
You got a 60% average and want to go to uni?

In my opinion, being older hurts you in this case. A 22 year old with a 60% average indicates that he hasn't managed to straightened himself out academically, even at a mature age.

Go to a community college (e.g. Seneca College is very reputable overall, but not sure about social work), show you can handle academics beyond high-school level, and transfer to uni. Another method may be to enter and remain in community college. It's not the end of the world or something. You get a decent education, and the staff are generally qualified for whatever it is you're studying.

Heck, a large community college like Seneca College may sound even better than First Nations University of Canada, which I had never even heard of until you mentioned it.
 
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