Most eSATA cards are 3Gb/s (~285MB/s) but there are few eSATA 6Gb/s cards too. If you were not using RAID, then 120MB/s was most likely the maximum of the HD.
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Am i the only one who doesn't care about thunderbolt?
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Most eSATA cards are 3Gb/s (~285MB/s) but there are few eSATA 6Gb/s cards too. If you were not using RAID, then 120MB/s was most likely the maximum of the HD.
I have so much respect for Apple engineers, that it irritates me when the marketing department / Steve Jobs, takes the liberty to get creative with outlandish names & claims.
"Thunderbolt"
"Retina"
Etc.
Then Jobs goes onstage & further hypes this "Revolutionary / Magical / Changes Everything" feature of the day, to unattainable heights.
No wonder customers expectations can be sky high & ever so unreasonable. Yet they buy into it with not the slightest desire to hold Apple accountable in many cases.
This is the real genius of Jobs, not his creativity, but his ability to con people.
To the question: I believe it's too early to tell how Thunderbolt will play out. What the adoption rate within the industry will be and if it prevails.
"Thunderbolt"
"Retina"
Etc.
Then Jobs goes onstage & further hypes this "Revolutionary / Magical / Changes Everything" feature of the day, to unattainable heights.
No wonder customers expectations can be sky high & ever so unreasonable. Yet they buy into it with not the slightest desire to hold Apple accountable in many cases.
This is the real genius of Jobs, not his creativity, but his ability to con people.
To the question: I believe it's too early to tell how Thunderbolt will play out. What the adoption rate within the industry will be and if it prevails.
Only because the interface is rated for a specific speed (3Gb/s or 6Gb/s) the card doesn't have to provide this speed. If the controller can't handle more throughput, the interface won't make it any better.
The SIL3132 for example can't push more than 120MB/s.
Thunderbolt is an Intel technology, not Apple's and the naming comes from Intel directly, not Apple.
Intel being one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) player in the hardware industry will certainly push other manufacturers to implement Thunderbolt into their devices.
I was thinking about that when I was typing but for some reason my fingers didn't type what I was thinking
I guess I just forgot. Thanks for the correction/addition anyway.I only want ONE external: deep color 3D 30" display or quad-HD 2D display.
I'm not buying a new MBP until it has DisplayPort 1.2
"ozred" - you have not been a member of our community for even a month now. Your posts are sounding like pure troll activity and others are seeing it that way (from another MR thread):
"...Well, based upon all of your previous posts, and join date, it is easy to see why some question your motives, including your questionable statement "As a long time Apple enthusiast, user, and shareholder..."
What have you accomplished in life? Steve has turned Apple around from near bankruptcy in an amazingly short time and now has the second highest market capitalization in America. I could go on with his accomplishments.
Let us hope that your "contributions" to the MacRumors community will be something much higher than what we are seeing thus far.
"...Well, based upon all of your previous posts, and join date, it is easy to see why some question your motives, including your questionable statement "As a long time Apple enthusiast, user, and shareholder..."
What have you accomplished in life? Steve has turned Apple around from near bankruptcy in an amazingly short time and now has the second highest market capitalization in America. I could go on with his accomplishments.
Let us hope that your "contributions" to the MacRumors community will be something much higher than what we are seeing thus far.
Actually, demand for deep color displays is not that rare with pros...
Deep color 3D displays? Yeah uhhhh... not so much.
Thunderbolt is an Intel trademark. "Retina" actually makes some sense, stupid as it may sound.
I didn't mind Retina.
Thunderbolt sounded like the sort of stupid name Apple would come up with, until I saw that Intel actually came up with it. Bleh.
Rendezvous was the coolest Apple name until that got killed.
It's call marketing, my friend. And I don't know why you'd castigate Jobs just because he's better at doing it than the other guys.
Apple makes the most innovative products in the world---everyone, even Apple's competitors concede it. So I don't have a problem with the "hype."
Now...will I race out to buy some new system because of Thunberbolt? Hell no.
As for Thunderbolt's future? Book it. It's going to be massive...because the industry can't fight BOTH Apple and Intel.
He found a way to run 4 FW800 connections in parallel using mind control, duct tape and whole lot of vaseline
He found a way to run 4 FW800 connections in parallel using mind control, duct tape and whole lot of vaseline
LOL
There is some new FW standard that is 3.2Gbps though I believe.
Correct = FW3200 - but my guess is that with ThunderBolt we will not see an implementation of that standard. Apple will not - IMO - provide two high speed ports competing with each other.
I thought the new MBP's had DP 1.2... which is why you can have a MDP -> HDMI /w audio???
TBH I can't wait for Thunderbolt enclosures. Faster-than-SATA storage on my MBP, yes please!
In terms of desktops, however... nah. lol
In terms of desktops, however... nah. lol
DP 1.1a supports audio as well and that is used in Thunderbolt (see my posts earlier in this thread).
You're right, I can't use Thunderbolt to lower my backup times, eSATA is already maxing out my drive's speed at 120MBs and a 10Gbs interface won't increase the drive speed. I have 6Gbs eSATA and a mix of 3/6Gbs drives, and no mechanical drive can even approach 6Gbs eSATA connection speeds. If I backed up to a 4-drive RAID 0 array then Thunderbolt might help, but for individual mechanical drives eSATA is the fastest connection I can use on a Mac Pro.
I can't follow this argument. The major external devices that require high bandwidth are storage and display. Based on calculations noted above, TB is not going to be suitable for driving multiple large monitors. As far as storage goes, I have a single 6Gb SAS connection between my MP and an expander, and that is no way near saturated with a half dozen SAS drives. Sure a bunch of late gen raided SSD's may do marginally better on TB, but when you factor in the signaling overhead, esp with daisy chained devices, the magnitude of the improvement is unknown at this point.