Am I the only one with palm rejection problems?

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  1. macbook123 macrumors 68000

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    Referring to the new 15" giant trackpad. Can't write a paragraph without accidentally triggering it with my palm and messing up what I was writing due to cursor jumping around. Do I need to learn to type differently?
     
  2. ccglows macrumors member

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    I don't understand why Apple made the trackpad so comically big. I can understand 1.25-1.5x bigger, but 2x is just absurd. And how did the palm rejection thing pass QA?
     
  3. richpjr macrumors 68030

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    I have seen several people complain about it, but it hasn't been an issue for me. Still not crazy about the keyboard, but I'm still getting used to it.
     
  4. cmanbrazil macrumors regular

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    Make sure its not your thumbs moving the cursor. I thought it was my palms but just tried to recreate the movement and found out it is my thumbs. Also, the only thing that moves for me is the pointer, so it hasn't messed up anything I'm writing.
     
  5. lobo1978 macrumors 6502

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    No problems at all. NonTouch base 13". It is really rare (if any) to see any palm rejections with apple. Every PC manufacturer is aspiring to this level of excellence (MacBook trackpad).
     
  6. sbpax macrumors member

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    They probably went for pen input but it didn't work out, so they trashed it, but it was too late in the dev process, so they just couldn't go back.
     
  7. Altis macrumors 68030

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    I know it wouldn't be a pretty solution... but I wonder if you could get/make a skin that covers part of the trackpad.

    If you get a skin cover and exacto-blade it down to the right size with a rectangular hole for the trackpad that partially covers it, it might work.
     
  8. R3k, Nov 21, 2016
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    Major issues, it driving me nuts. I'm also using touch to tap and that further exacerbates the problems. I have to really concerntrate on where I'm holding my hands lest I swipe pages around, scroll down a webpage, open mission control, erase a cell in google sheets, etc.

    I don't even seem to be able to type without touching the pad with some part of my hand and triggering some unwanted behavior. I sent a half finished business email by mistake today (mail in full screen mode)
     
  9. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    I presume the plan was to make it a built-in graphics tablet with the pencil, and the idea was scrapped.

    Because it's functionality absurd otherwise.
     
  10. unagimiyagi macrumors 6502a

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    Hi, this is an absolutely brilliant idea. I am of the belief that with a trackpad this big, you can't make palm rejection perfect. The only way is to shrink the physical area down. Doing it via software would be asking for trouble with people not knowing where is an active area and where isn't. But a non-conductive plastic skin/cover, would definitely work. You could get used to it quickly.

    I am very skeptical of the palm rejection and seeing this solution makes me not worry about it. If I have problems, I'll skin the thing. This skin is going to be a product soon. Trust me on this.

    For a multi-thousand dollar laptop it's a clunky look but I don't buy apple for the looks. I buy it for the trackpad, and in the past, for the OS. Less so now. Just the trackpad and kind of the retina screen though many are catching up.
     
  11. yillbs macrumors 6502

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    I have zero issues with palm rejection, finding it strange how so many people seem to be having issues with it. My palms rest on it, and don't move the cursor, the top left /right corners of the touch pad can't even be trigger by click with your palm on it. If you try nothing happens, if you slowly move your palm ( while pushing down ), towards the center, it'll then start to click. Seems like perfect palm rejection to me :)
     
  12. mainoffender macrumors newbie

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    I've had this since the first time I put my palm on the trackpad. It drives me nuts, it was confirmed by a genius at 1 Cupertino Apple Store, it persists, keeps me away from tapping and typing. They told me it should be fixed in a software upgrade. Has been a few months, still waiting.
     
  13. Fishrrman macrumors G5

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    ccglows wrote:
    "I don't understand why Apple made the trackpad so comically big. I can understand 1.25-1.5x bigger, but 2x is just absurd."

    I'm thinking that in future issues of the MacBook Pro, we may see the trackpad begin to "shrink back" a bit, to a more usable size. Not as small as it used to be, but not as large as it is currently.
     
  14. PBz macrumors 68000

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    I have had this issue in work computers. I have completely disabled the trackpad of my current laptop (which looks just like a 2015 MBP) it's so bad. I would not be happy having this issue on MBP.
     
  15. Trolle macrumors member

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    Tried typing on one in the apple store and there was all sorts of problems with palm rejection. The cursor was moving all over the place. Hopefully they will fix this, otherwise, a major design flaw
     
  16. dmelgar macrumors 68000

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    Any news, any update?

    Apple should provide more options. Reduce sensitivity of the trackpad. Be able to reduce the trackpad touch area. This is definitely fixable via software if Apple would deem it worthy of being fixed.

    Its driven me to crazy I've had to turn off "tap to click".
     
  17. lax28 macrumors regular

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    I agree and find the 15” trackpad too big. While trying them in Apple store and Best Buy, I get the same issues with jumping cursor. The 13” on the other hand is still big, but usable palms dont have to rest on the trackpad while typing. Just one of several reasons why the 13” has so much of a better feel (screen size aside). But that is only my opinion.
     
  18. R3k macrumors 6502a

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    Nearly I year later, and it no longer is an issue for me. I dont know if they tweaked it with a software patch, or ive just learned to adapt. Im pretty sure they did tweak in some way, it feels like it.

    I still suck typing on the machine though. I do like the feel of the keys, im just not as accurate as I used to be so lots of spelling mistakes.
     
  19. jas5279 macrumors member

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    Mostly people with 15" have the palm rejection issue. Can anyone confirm if there is the same issue with 13" as well or not?
     
  20. Naimfan macrumors 601

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    It has been a problem on every 2016-2017 model I've tried.
     
  21. Fishrrman macrumors G5

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    I have a feeling that we may see the size of the trackpad "shrink" a bit on future models...
     
  22. Mac-lover3 macrumors 6502

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    Have mine for around 2 months now and not having any problems actually. It has happend but so few times that it's not annoying.
    note: this is on the 13" version
     
  23. idealcheese macrumors regular

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    I just got the newest version of the MBP 13" yesterday and I thought I was going mad because every time I type something the cursor jumps around the screen. I've narrowed it down to my thumbs grazing the trackpad, not my palms. Tap to click is turned off, so that's not a viable workaround for me.

    I can't believe that this has been a known issue for over a year and it's still not fixed (I'm run-in the latest version of High Sierra). For once I didn't buy direct from Apple, and the place I got it doesn't accept returns on opened items, so I'm stuck!

    P.S. The cursor thing happened several times while I was typing this. AAARRRGH
     
  24. Nixir macrumors member

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    Because it's designed as a fashion statement for people to look cool sitting in starbucks and browse around facebook. The mbp had the most perfect trackpad ever designed, it boggles my mind Apple ****s this one up so bad.

    I sincerely hope Apple has handed each and every one of its developers this new mbp style keyboard to work on for a year, only then MAYBE the internal complaints will force the fashionistas in the design department to come up with a better keyboard and more sensible trackpad.
     
  25. turbineseaplane macrumors 68040

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    We have a modern 13" around the house (spouse work) and it's trackpad doesn't give me anywhere near the rejection issues I had with multiple 15" models.

    The one on the 15" is just plain and simple too big.
    If they would just put the 13" size trackpad on both the 13" and 15" models I think we'd be fine.
     

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