Am I wrong for wanting "Sub Folders" ?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Piggie, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    Am I wrong?

    First Desktop Folders:

    Now we can make folders, but we have a limitation as to how many app icons we can have in a folder. Also, I would like to categorise types, let me explain.

    I'd like a Games folder, and in that folder, I would like to make sub folders called Board Games, Action Games, RPG Games, Chill out Games etc.

    Secondly Photo Folders:

    In the very limited, but fancy effect looking, Photo app. We can make and name folders, Well, we can make them on our Computer and sync them to the iPad.
    It goes without saying that you should be able to make folders on the iPad itself. But anyway.

    I really really wish we had sub folders in the photo album.

    It it so very very limiting to have to have just a single layer of photo's.

    Example, I may go on holiday to Spain, so I want a Spain 2011 folder which holds all my photo's for my holiday. But I don't then want 100,200,500 photo's all stuck together under this one folder.

    Perhaps I want Mon, Tue, Web, Thur type subfolders.

    Or perhaps I want sub folders based on locations I went to during my holiday.

    At the moment it would all be one massive total mess.

    Am I wrong for wanting these changes to make things more organised?
  2. steezy1337 macrumors 6502

    Dec 29, 2008
    Carlisle, UK
    although it's not iPad compatible at the moment if you don't mind jailbreaking there's an App on Cydia called FolderEnhancer that does exactly what you described for spring board folders, it also takes off the limit of how many apps you can store in a folder.
  3. Piggie thread starter macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010

    I appreciate the advice, but I'm really not wanting to Jailbreak my iPad.

    I know I could also use 3rd party apps to make photo folders at least, using a different photo app.

    Call me stupid, but I really want to use the official apps and the official way, but I want the official Apple apps to be upgraded into a more usable form for everyone.

    This is another topic I have been thinking about posting, and will do soon.
  4. bobr1952 macrumors 68020


    Jan 21, 2008
    Melbourne, FL

    Well you are certainly not stupid--there are lots of us here who don't want to jailbreak. :)
  5. Piggie thread starter macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    I just looked at my photo collection on my PC, which is resonably well sorted out.

    Ok, it could do with a tiny tweak here and there, but a few months ago, I spent a long time getting it all organised.

    I have one Main Folder that contains everything, called "Pictures & Photos"

    Not very imaginative, but it says what it is :)

    Within this folder, which I guess you call call the root photo folder, I have:

    5,343 Files, 252 Folders

    The 1st layer down consists of 28 sub folders, and the rest, the other sub folders come down from those.

    There is no way on earth I could put these onto the iPad even if I wanted to, as so many different unrelated photos and pictures would be all dumped in together as the iTunes sync would strip all my folder structure away.

    Basically, it's unusable.
  6. steezy1337 macrumors 6502

    Dec 29, 2008
    Carlisle, UK
    For your photo problem you could maybe try looking for a windows equivalent of iphoto. You can make photo albums and events in iphoto that I'm pretty sure would sync over to your iOS devices.
  7. Night Spring, Dec 6, 2010
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2010

    Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    There is a way, it's just that it takes a bit of time, and you may not be willing to do it.

    Basically, unnest those folders. In order to keep related folders grouped together, add a prefix. For instance, if you go to Spain, and you want to sort your pics by location, name the folders:

    Spain 2011~Madrid
    Spain 2011~Barcelona

    Yes, this does leave you with 250+ folders in your "root" picture directory, but if you group the folders by naming them this way, it's not so bad. At least, I'm finding I can live with it. YMMV

    EDIT: I'm not saying it's ok that Apple hasn't made subfolders available in iPad photo app. But since it's not there for now, I'm just trying to figure out ways to work with what we have while we wait for Apple to (hopefully) add subfolders.
  8. Piggie thread starter macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010

    Indeed that would work.

    I would then have 250 to 270 ish folders on my root folder. Or on the iPad, when I open the photo app I'd have 22 full screens worth of folders to scroll through.

    Even if I did them as people with Mac's and iPhoto suggest as Events, I'd have 22 screens worth of events.

    I really can't yet understand how iPhone on the Mac sorts images.
    Let's forget geo tagging location as that's only suitable for "places" type photo's, lets also forget face recognition as again that's only suitable for some things.

    How on earth does iPhoto work on the Mac?

    The only thing I'm hearing other than those two are Events. But what if a Photo is not an event, it's just a photo?

    Say I plug my SD card into a Mac and into iPhoto, and I import my 2 photo;s of some beer bottles, a interesting cloud shape, 3 photos of the dog playing the with garden hose, a photo of a couple of nice flowers in my garden. I just polished my car and bike, so a couple of pictures of those also. And these photo's were taken, spread out over the past few weeks.

    How does iPhoto and hence the iPad sort these out?

    Note: Going back to the idea of making everything on the root, there is also going to be the problem, I'm guessing, or filename length. I'm not sure how long a filename or folder name can be in OSX or in iPhoto, but I dont think the iPad will show very many characters will it?
  9. maturola macrumors 68040


    Oct 29, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    I agreed with you, there is a lot I would like to do the "official" way, but Apple thinks (as you mentioned on your post) that users are 'stupid" and giving them access to the OS core files would be a mistake. That's were Jailbreaking comes to play, give you freedom to make your device your own.
  10. Piggie thread starter macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    I just found this whilst trying to find out about iPhoto and it seems in iPhoto you can have things I would call sub folders under other main folders:

    If you follow the advice below and create this structure in iPhoto, which sounds fine, then what happenes if you sync this structure onto the iPad ?

    You can create a folder called "December". Go to File>New folder. Then create an album called "Shopping". Create another or album called "Christmas Eve". Copy your photos from the library into the relevant albums, and place these albums in your December folder. This is the most simplified combination of folders and albums, but you can organize your photos into more tiers if you so choose.

    In general, the hierarchy is:

    1. photos are grouped into albums;

    2. albums are grouped into folders;

    3. folders can be grouped into other folders.

    I hope this helps.

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