Amazing deal for a REV B on ebay

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by bugout, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. bugout macrumors 6502a

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    This is one of those "too good to be true" deals..

    Rev B 1.6 for new in sealed box for $1199 and apparatnly has a bunch of them.

    Full paypal coverage up to $2k

    I bought one, I'll let ya know how it turns out.

    I am in no way affiliated with this listing.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Apple-MacBook-Air-1-6-GHz-2-GB-RAM-120GB_W0QQitemZ120380743912QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Laptops?hash=item120380743912&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200
     
  2. DAMAC3 macrumors regular

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    I bought a revB 1.86/120 on eBay and ended up paying less than that, but it wasn't new and it ended up having a couple scratches on the end of the lid.

    As an eBay buyer/seller junkie, I would consider a couple things when thinking about buying that.

    1. If you are paying with paypal, you will probably be safe. Paypal sides with the buyer about 95% of the time in my experience if you don't receive what you are supposed to and try to return the item.

    2. Make sure this MBA is eligible for the Apple warranty. These units may not come with an Apple warranty whatsoever. I would ask about that for sure. I'm not sure what Apple's policy is, but most manufacturers have items out there considered B grade that are not covered under the normal 1 year warranty. You definately won't have a warranty if these units were stolen, and you run the risk of having your MBA confiscated by the police. Hopefully, you would be protected by paypal in this situation, but it would be a mess and take time to get your money back.


    The guy has good feedback, so I would be willing to take a chance on it. But I wouldn't blame anyone who wouldn't go that.
     
  3. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'm an ebay junky and powerseller as well..

    This auction doesn't have any of the usual red flags... except that the guy has 2 separate listings for the same item (2 listings for the same MBA and MBP) showing "more then 10 available" and he doesn't seem to have sold anything in the last 90 days.

    I'm not too worried as paypal should cover it if this guy flakes.
     
  4. mikey28 macrumors 6502

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    Out of curiosity, where could he possibly get MBA's and be able to sell them that cheap? And have 10 of them?

    I can only think that they are possibly stolen?
     
  5. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    He actually had 40 of them..

    If you click on purchases it will tell you how many are left.. last I checked he sold 5 between the two auctions with 18 remaining on one and 17 on the other.

    This should be interesting.
     
  6. HLdan macrumors 603

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    I wouldn't get a Macbook on Ebay. What if you get one with a dead pixel or a dent and screen problems or a bad logic board? Then you have to deal with the seller and hope for an exchange IF he has one, IF he will exchange it as he may tell you to take it up with Apple.
    When I'm spending this type of money I want things to be hassle free if I get a defective one.
     
  7. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If they aren't stolen, any apple store will handle all problems under warranty except damage on delivery. In that case you would be covered by paypal.
     
  8. uicandrew macrumors 6502a

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    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=637499

    and

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=637330

    i took a chance and got "burned" (i did get my money back, eventually) with the $1500 unibody macbook pro

    the above threads was actually more credible than your since my seller actively was selling things and receiving feedback (for non-macbook items) while I was waiting for my macbook pro to show up.

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    the one really bad thing i hate about these auctions is that it hurts other legitimate sellers because it drives down the price that buyers expect to pay. they have to sell it for less because they are competing with non-existent items.

    helpful hint to the OP (even experienced ebay people learn things), IMMEDIATELY submit a request for personal information (they already have your personal information since you gave them your shipping address) and call them up and/or use google white pages to search for their information. It's easier to scam a person when you only have contact via email.
     
  9. dborja macrumors 6502a

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    As long as it's still under warranty, issues like dead pixels and bad logic boards will be taken care of by Apple. For dent's, though, and other physical damage make sure you see enough pictures in the description; save the pictures so that if there's a bait and switch you have evidence... I've sold Macs that I've replaced on eBay and I make sure to provide enough pictures to show their physical conditions. I also spell out the warranty situation.
     
  10. Tastannin macrumors 6502

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    Open Box Rev B for $1400 from an Authorized Dealer!

    Well, I got my rev B 1.6/120GB HDD MBA for $1529 from MacMall, it was an open box and they seem to still have them here. Ordered mine early this month, and got it - it's perfect. Running the S/N by Apple's online check says its warranty began 12/30/08. I was still able to get the $9.95 iLife '09 upgrade anyways.

    My net price for this MBA will be approx $1400 after I get my Live.com Cashback in several weeks. :D I saw some of those eBay sellers and just thought I'd rather go through a regular Apple dealer. However MacMall wasn't very good about letting me know the status of my order (after the initial confirmation email) and I had to call in twice to confirm it'd be delivered the next day, which indeed did happen.
     
  11. garfield2002 macrumors regular

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    Beware of triangulation scams

    I'm not saying that this is the case for this auction, but the way this scam works is that a third party uses a stolen credit card to make the purchase directly from Apple.

    All is good until the card owner finds out about the fraudulent charges. At that point many things can happen most of which cost time and money.

    I had this happen to me on an HP laser printer purchased from eBay. The brand new printer arrived quickly and was shipped directly to me from HP. A month later I got a call from a business in Arizona saying that the printer had been purchased on their credit card and shipped to me in Maryland. They got my name and address directly from HP.

    To make a long story short, I returned the printer directly to HP. HP credited back the money to the business in AZ. It was a happy ending only because the business in AZ cut me a check for my eBay purchase price because I cooperated and helped them recover their money.

    The eBay seller had great feedback. I found out later that he was a long time eBay seller who had come on hard times. He answered one of those get rich quick using eBay ads. Essentially he used his good eBay name to make the sales, and then sent most of the money to a third party "supplier," in this case overseas. The "supplier" would then use the stolen credit card to make the purchase online and send it to the eBay buyer. Hence the term triangulation.

    This auction looks very familiar to the one from my ill fated purchase, but I wish you the best. :cool:
     
  12. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    That looks quite tempting but the fact that he doesnt have feedback in 90 days is making me kind of weary. The paypal protection is good but doesnt paypal just try to get the money from the seller and if he moves the money out of his account right away you'll be battling with 20 other people to get your money back.

    please keep us posted i would definitely get one at this price if it's legit.
     
  13. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I requested the contact info as suggested above and the phone number goes directly to a sprint pcs voicemail using the pre-recorded standard greeting..

    Tick tock tick tock.. :)

    You're covered by paypal if they recover from the sell or not. You're not fighting it out with anyone.

    I googled the phone number and apparently the guy used to sell cars on ebay. This is starting to stink a little.
     
  14. uicandrew macrumors 6502a

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    paypal has changed it's policy. before, if the seller withdrew their money, then you would have to fight over remains.

    now they are much more buyer friendly.

    i would start googling with the seller's name and zip code to find a white pages address. as long as his name isn't john smith, you should be able to find the right person.

    also, report the seller's contact info as being incorrect to ebay. it will get ebay on their case and hopefully push the them to the "unregistered with ebay" status.

    please glance the threads i posted above. It is the EXACT same thing happening all over again.
     
  15. macPlayer15 macrumors member

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    Guys just ask for the serial number of the laptop, then go to apples website and type it in, it will tell you when it was built, warranty info etc. You can even call apple and give them the serial and they will tell you if it is reported stolen or not.
     
  16. tubbymac macrumors 65816

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    Wish the moderators would remove all threads with ebay links. They all end up being just a dragged out scam every time and waste people's time.
     
  17. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It's getting a little stinkier..

    I sent an email asking when he's going to ship and got this reply:

    Ya know, maybe he's just not a native English speaker.. lol

    I replied asking why his phone number doesn't work...
     
  18. mikey28 macrumors 6502

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    We really need to think about the way we do things.

    I know that there is going to be something fishy about a laptop that is FAR below the sticker price. And we all know what a Rev B MBA COSTS, and we know that it's not currently on SALE.

    And you know it too.

    These scams only work with greedy/impulsive customers.

    (I hope paypal comes through for you, because that's alot of hard-earned money to loose-- but you should have known better.)
     
  19. bugout thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'm really not worried.. I paid via paypal with a credit card.. I'm doubly protected.. I won't lose a cent.
     
  20. Mactagonist macrumors 6502a

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    Hasnt sold anything in 90 days, and suddenly has 50 Macbook Airs at below market prices?

    As 'experienced ebayers' (whatever that means) you dont think this stinks? Come on. It is either grey market goods or a classic hijacked account.

    Jumping into something like this just because your paypal and credit card will protect you is like crashing your car just because you have insurance. You will probably get most of the money back in the end, but it isnt an easy or fun process and it doesnt mean you should ignore common sense.

    EDIT:

    Just looked at the link and he has no actual pics of the items, no return policy and only offers USPS shipping (worst tracking of the big 3). Add no history of selling laptops before and I think this deal stinks.
     
  21. robeddie macrumors 65816

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    agreed
     
  22. ntrigue macrumors 68040

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    I got my 1.86SSD on eBay for $1995 and it was 100% BRAND NEW and has worked flawlessly for 4 months now :)
     
  23. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    You know, the whole eBay & PayPal system TOGETHER is pretty darn safe.

    I sold my original MBA a week before the revised model was announced. The buyer was a lady with NO FEEDBACK. I followed the PayPal seller guarantee exactly. I kept the receipt from USPS which showed insurance, delivery signature, and etc. This lady received it and left me positive feedback, too.

    Well, a month later PayPal put a hold on the money. Apparently the buyer was a fraud and her bank didn't cover the funds... within 10 business days PayPal had covered it on my end with the eBay & PayPal seller guarantee. I had already withdrawn the money from PayPal into my checking account. So, PayPal put a negative balance on my PayPal account until their investigation completed in ten days. Had I not had the USPS information, I may had lost the case. But, this system is pretty safe as a seller as long as you follow the PayPal rules... which don't worry about buyer feedback...

    As a buyer, you have an excellent guarantee on purchases like this. Here is another thing, USE A CREDIT CARD. Then, you have two methods of guarantee that your money is safe. If you do not get exactly the item described, PayPal will refund your money! And the proof is in the auction details. Many years ago I bought a Dell on eBay stated as "brand new" and it was an open box when I received it, otherwise was perfect... But, in the auction it said "sealed box." So, I didn't know if maybe something had happened to it and was repaired or whatever. The seller didn't want to accept the refund... So, I sent it to PayPal and they credited my account for the entire amount, shipping and handling and insurance all refunded as well. If PayPal ever fails you, the credit card is a big one... Credit Card companies guarantee your purchase as well. But, I would doubt seriously that PayPal would ever not side with you.

    Now, if you deal eBay with NO PAYPAL, NO WAY! Or, if you deal via PayPal without eBay, NO WAY! Either way you can lose. So, with the pairing of eBay and PayPal you are like 100% safe... as long as it describes the item as BRAND NEW and SEALED BOX. Those two statements guarantee just that. PayPal and eBay require exact statements like those... A few years ago, eBay, for this very reason, stopped allowing people to use statements "like new or like brand new" and etc. It's either used or new. If used, you are taking more of a risk... than if it's BRAND NEW in SEALED BOX.

    I would do it in a minute if I were you. As long as you buy on eBay, you buy from a user with many positive feedbacks, you buy from an eBay page describing the item as BRAND NEW and SEALED BOX... and you pay via PayPal ONLY! You are guaranteed to get what you paid for.

    If it turns out to be stolen, guess what, GUARANTEE from PayPal!

    You are covered every way. These sellers have many reasons for selling at discounts. And sometimes, their whole profit is shipping and handling and etc. The most you are ever going to lose is a short period of time of having the money held on your PayPal account.
     
  24. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Any multiple auctions of multiple products are suspicious.
    I bet you a dollar that he will add more multi units of laptops soon.

    People falling for scams will only profit scammers and result in higher auction fees.
     
  25. kinkster macrumors 6502a

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    "you can call me at 3054918278 my name ruben z , also you can hold with your buying till youll see some other happy costumer , thanks and best regards!"


    Is that the number others got? I also asked him how he gets them so cheap because I "was worried its a scam" but he didn't answer. Possibly this is understandable as we know there is some loop hole which people have to get cheap iPhones and sell them at $500 etc on ebay(one guy here does it actually but doesn't say how)
     

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