Amazon Bans Sale of Potentially Dangerous USB-C Cables

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    Amazon has tightened restrictions on the sale of USB-C cables and adapters on its online store in an effort to protect customers from risky substandard products (via The Verge).

    The online retailer added non-compliant USB-C cables to its list of prohibited items, following a flood of potentially damaging third-party cables onto the market. The new note on Amazon's page of undesirables prohibits "any USB-C(TM) (or USB Type-C(TM)) cable or adapter product that is not compliant with standard specifications issued by 'USB Implementers Forum Inc.'"

    The update was spotted by Google engineer Benson Leung, who has been testing USB-C cables sold by Amazon in an effort to highlight the risks of non-compliant products. Leung was spurred into action after a USB-C charging cable he bought destroyed a Chromebook Pixel he was working on in compatibility tests.

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    Apple introduced the USB-C standard to its Mac range with the release of the 12-inch Retina MacBook. The new standard allows charging, data transfer, and video over a single connector. As a result, USB-C cables are capable of carrying a lot more power than traditional USB connectors, making faulty units a risk to computers and power supplies, and potentially a fire hazard.

    Apple states in a support document that the 12-inch MacBook will charge from USB-C power adapters not manufactured by Apple if they adhere to the USB Power Delivery specification. Based on Leung's extensive testing, 30 percent of third-party USB-C cables currently available do not meet USB-IF standards. Apple's USB-C ports are designed to shut down if a larger-than-expected amount of power is detected flowing through cables, however Amazon's ban should mean cables that can damage or shut down a device will no longer be offered through the site.

    Apple suffered its own USB-C problems when a "design issue" in charging cables shipped with certain Retina MacBooks failed to supply sufficient charge when connected to a power adapter. Apple is providing new, redesigned USB-C charge cables to MacBook owners with faulty cables at no cost.

    Article Link: Amazon Bans Sale of Potentially Dangerous USB-C Cables
     
  2. SSD-GUY macrumors 6502a

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    Buy Apple cables only people, until Apple do some sort of 'MFI' for USB-C or something.
     
  3. dawson001 macrumors newbie

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    Based on the work from Benson Leung (Google) there are 30% of USB-C cables that fail the test. His work has also encouraged a lot of other individuals to do testing. There are quite a few websites popping up in response to this such as: usbccompliant.co.uk (UK/EU) & usbccompliant.com (US)
     
  4. justperry macrumors G3

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    Why?
    This is NOT about Apple, this is about certified USB-C cables, if you buy a certified USB-C cable from ANY manufacturer you're good to go.
     
  5. DCYorke macrumors member

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    I wouldn't go around telling people to only buy Apple cables, however customers would be wise to buy only from trusted sources. Belkin and Amazon Basics are two brands that come to mind.

    Even with this policy in place, does Amazon actually check every cable in its store? Or is there still the possibility that manufactures and resellers will sneak them in?
     
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  7. joueboy macrumors 65816

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    The article even states that Apple cable is having problems. The whole point of the article is to get a cable that is compliant to the standard of USBIFI. Just like buying MFI cables approved by Apple. They're actually cheaper and sometimes more durable than Apple's.
     
  8. TheShadowKnows! macrumors 6502a

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    Nonsense. USB-C needs no MFI. Or, Apple tax. Be an educated consumer before you post bollocks.

    USB-C is a mechanical specification that must comply with the USB-IF specification for power delivery. Independently of its mechanical characteristics for power delivery, USB-C cables are data-rated to either USB 3.1 (10 Gbps nominal), USB 3.0 (5Gbps nominal), and of course legacy USB 2.0.

    My suggestion: Buy cables from monoprice.com. Their select series cables are the bees knees at great price. (No links with them, just a happy customer.)
     
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    Until such time as said cable destroys your $1200+ laptop, and Apple shrugs and says "where'd you get that cable?".
    The smartass forum posters who brag about buying cables for $0.20 instead of $20 will not turn up to help you when it happens either.
     
  10. merkinmuffley macrumors 6502a

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    Buy from Apple, sure...they're stuff has had problems but they'd cover them.
     
  11. Mike MA macrumors 68000

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    But you do remember the latest power adapter replacement program, right?
     
  12. SBlue1 macrumors 65816

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    This is not about Apple cables or cables for Apple laptops. Its about genuine certified USB-C cables used to power other laptops as well as Apple laptops.
     
  13. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502

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    I'm sorry, but it has to be said...USB-C is a disaster.
     
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    No way. It's amazing that everything has the potential to use one port... It would just be nice if the MacBook had two of them instead of one. However, that is an Apple design issue, not an inherent problem with USB-C.
     
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    He specifically recommended CERTIFIED cables.
    Speaking of cable quality, Apple is far from the golden standard.

    I'd rather get a well built (maybe less beautiful) third party cable that is certified and sturdy.
    Probably at the same price, maybe less, but at least it's safe and doesn't break after 6-12 months.

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    Well, yeah, I guess so if you think every thread needs a blatantly foolish post. Thanks for taking care of that for us.
     
  17. ZMacintosh macrumors 65816

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    Yeah i never understood why people choose to use 3rd party cables for an apple device, get the cable from apple. cheaping out on 3rd party cables that could damage your device or simply not work makes no sense, the cables from apple work and are covered. I don't even use the ones that came with the car charger from the 3rd parties too many issues or "this cable is not compatible"
     
  18. H2SO4 macrumors 68040

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    A load of crap. If you buy all of your spares/accessories from the OEM then I’ll at least excuse your drivel.
    That means, bulbs/oil/brake pads etc only from the main stealer.
    Boiler problem? Don't call your local plumber - call the manufacturer.

    See where I’m going?
     
  19. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    We aren't talking about knockoff Apple lightning cables. We are talking about the new USB cables, which are an industry-wide standard.

    For example nobody's going to buy a USB hard drive/Chromebook/Mouse/printer/etc., throw away the USB cable, and then get an Apple-branded USB cable for their non-Apple device. It's absurd.
     
  20. ZMacintosh macrumors 65816

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    This was specifically at Apple products that came with their own cables and those using 3rd party instead. which also is relevant to macbook with USB-C cable. get the apple manufactured one to have better results as its made specifically for that device. I think you both blew it way out of proportion.


    If I buy additional cables for my devices, they'll be apple branded, they're made for the device and manufacture supports them. but your comparison is not like for like....as in this case if i have a problem with a Apple product i will contact the manufacture not some 3rd party...if Apple provides the cables they will support them.
    As Apple has created this type of environment to have everything under one roof.
     
  21. shareef777 macrumors 68020

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    Are you helping them pay for the $20 cable that's worth $0.20? As they noted, buy certified cables. Just doesn't have to be certified by Apple. Also, that language isn't necessary.
     
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    Anker has been great from my experience with their cables and chargers. I used to use Monoprice but have been discovering that their cable quality has been garbage recently with high failures.
     
  23. H2SO4 macrumors 68040

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    Do what you like it’s your money to waste but the comparison stands. Tell me, have you ever owned a vehicle?
     
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    You just don't get it do you, as you can see I clearly mentioned "certified USB-C cable from ANY manufacturer"
    Why should I buy an expensive Apple branded cable while there are cheaper certified alternatives, heck, they might even be of better quality, not that I had any problems with Apple cables until now but plenty of people have/had problems with them.
     
  25. ZMacintosh macrumors 65816

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    what does owning a vehicle have any relation to this..?
     

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