Really? The Apple ][ wasn't a "new product?" The Mac? Done before, huh?
Nah, although I dunno what ][ is
I gladly agree that the iMac has been a highly innovative product for it's time. I'm not questioning it. Maybe I've gone to far by using the word "never".. I should have said hardly/barely, anything which is 1% under "never"
I see where you’re coming from. It is exhausting to read these threads at times.
It seems there are mainly two types of posters here:
The Apple haters that clasp their little hands together and pray for Apple’s demise. They will take on any argument regardless how menial if it opposes Apple in any way.
Then there are the Apple fanboys that somehow convince themselves that every product Apple produces is perfect in every way. They also defend Apple to a point of ridiculous measures.
Everyone really needs to stop worshiping these corporations.
I too think it’s silly to say that “so and so IS DEAD” or X new device will be a “___-Killer”. The world is a big place. There is plenty of room in the marketplace so one device doesn’t need to fail in order for another to succeed.
You are right about Android too. I think it will grow in strength as more and more apps become available.
With all that said, take my Kindle comment in that light. I’m not bashing any company, but surely Amazon knows their Kindle is facing some fierce competition in the near future. Personally I believe it would be a mistake on their part to enter the tablet race against these computer giants. I would also think it a mistake if Apple and MS started selling shoes, women’s clothes, and blenders.
I never wanted to sound as if I implied you bash apple. But on the other hand: amazon knows that the iPad is a threat to their ebook business. And this is just 'one' reason why they have every "right" (I use the word right 'cuz it seems as if macrumors member 'can'/'should' decide what company X should do) to improve their existing products to be competetive.. Just because the kindle has no touchscreen to date, does that mean it can never have one? Does that make them the (apple-)copycat?? just because the original iphone had no HDSAP, does that mean that the successor shouldn't have it too? (foolish assumption, isn't it?
) If they need to improve the hardware to a certain degree, that doesn't mean they WANT TO COMPETE against apple.
IF ANYTHING, the iPad competes against the kindle, because the kindle has been released for quiete some time now. how can the kindle compete against the iPad if you cannot even buy the iPad??
the kindle has been the "marketleader" for ereaders since it's launch (I just claim that because this is what most people think who have no insight in the technical backgrounds... just as most people think apple invented multitouch.) new ereaders get released, but the kindle is, for the 0815 consumer, THE ereader.. they want to stay competetive. that's why any improvement to the kindle is highly welcomed.
i see. So you pick the biggest possible categorization. By that argument no one has ever invented anything. The guy who built the first computer deserves no credit, since matter had already been invented.
see the above acknowledgement. never shouldn't have been used in this context. nevertheless, apple's businessmodel has always been the following: "Take an existing product and improve the """user-experience"""... nothing bad about it, don't get me wrong, I love making money
, but .... well, I hope you get the idea....
No, I said that because Amazon has never been any good at any other market they've entered. They don't know HOW to do anything else well. Their strength is in their shopping business. Not in their electronics or cloud services. They would be more successful, partnering with Apple as an e-book portal.
Ok, I hope you have no children. "Boy, you had bad grades in school. Programming is nothing for you, don't even try it. You'll suck anyway" "Thank you daddy, I love you!"....
PS: exaggeration is a rhetoric/stilistic-device
They are e-readers in every sense of the word. Nobody has ever proven the LCD vs e-ink thing. Nobody! There are people at work staring at an LCD screen from 9-5 flat. Even when they eat!
My eyes get tired playing a game on my iphone for more than 1 hour (Broken Sword
) ... EVERYONE says, after having spend the whole in front of a LCD display:"ouwww my eyes XYZ"... most e-ink users report something else...
The iPad serves the e-reader Niche and then some.
Sorry I don't get what you're saying.
You brought it up in your own argument.
but just to back up my real message: any company can be innovative, it's not just apple that sells good stuff
The Kindle boosts e-sales not physical sales. Theres more money for Amazon in Physical books.
I dunno the translation, but there is a german "Sprichwort" (I couldn't find a translation) that says: "Wer den Pfenning nicht ehrt ist der Mark nicht wert" (replace "Pfennig" with Cents and "Mark" with Euro and you'll get the up-to-date form)
It means something like: If you don't respect the cent, you're not worth the Dollar"...
more sales are always good. There is a business strategy which is based on steady, but small growth.. there is nothing wrong with making
less money (on your own platform in this case) than earning big bugs on a platform where you have no control over (and have to pay $$$ to get the rights to sell your stuff there.. just imagine for 1 secs apple goes down, including the appstore etc.etc... amazon's earning would be 0$ from one day to another)
In fact, I wouldn't be too sure about your assumption. My father owns a logistic company. storing "physical" objects is very expensive (see books, which, sometimes, don't sell too well :-S ), that's what "just in time"-delivery is for, because NOBODY wants to store their goods. I can store XXXX ebooks on a small server... of course, the usage of the server costs (bandwith etc).. but the more different "books"/data you store, the cheaper it becomes if you calculate it down to 1/100...X, because every item boosts sales on it's own... that's why it's ok for apple to host 80% BS apps. the 20% good apps make $$$$$$
edit:
Mmm... Android OS predates iPhone OS by at least 2 years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Google bought Android, Inc. in 2005. The iPhone OS debuted in 2007.
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So you think that apple started developing iPhone OS in 2007 and released it the same year?
"initial release (of Android) October 21, 2008; 15 month(s) ago" (from you're linked article)
By your logic, iPhone Os predates Android by 1 year..
Nevertheless, apple has been working on it for quite some time too. If anything, I'll admid that, they are roughly about the same age.. Sadly, the "iPhone OS" page of wiki doesn't say ANYTHING about the OS's history...
