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No offense intended, but please read my last sentence a bit better. I clearly indicate that with Netflix on Apple TV, Apple is now following a new path.

And your post is really difficult to read without interpunction, let alone understand. Please write a coherent question, because I have got no clue what you are trying to ask me here..


Was not asking anything was just telling you how inept is your idea of why Amazon Prime is not Apple TV.
 
so is the Amazon TV device going to support iTunes? nope....because theyre direct competitors and it'd be like McDonald's serving Whoppers.

Apple doesn't let anyone else use iTunes so it's a moot point. FWIW there are apps like Netflix, epix, Hulu+, etc., available on the Kindle Fire.
 
Lifetime banning of people's accounts over petty issues with ZERO prior warning? The ban includes previously purchased Digital Content because the morons use ONE Uniformed account for EVERYTHING and ALL services.

I'm not against them banning accounts, I freely admit that I return a lot of stuff, but I also purchased a HELL of a lot more, what I object to is the idea that they did it without providing any kind of warning or grace period and that it f'ed over all my digital content AND bricked 2 Kindles. If they are going to exercise this policy then they damn well should have it clearly spelled out on their site and give people warnings as well.

Amazon is a great company for those of us who do not abuse and misuse their return policies.

Buying more than you return (lol) does not make you some kind of uber customer. Returns have a significant cost. Margins on most items are such that you would have to buy a massive number of items to offset abuse of their return policies. If you were spending 250k a year and abusing the return system that is one thing. If you are spending 5k a year and abusing the return system you are a bad customer.

You know what you were doing and why they banned you. No sympathy for you at all. It is people like you who ultimately cause companies to enact more stringent policies that don't favor consumers.
 
You should probably do some research into their crappy worker policies and their even crappier scorched earth policies when it comes to eliminating local competition and skirting around local laws.

Like I said, rational people that do research into these things know better.

Lol you have been asked more than once for examples but continue to just talk baseless nonsense.
 

Lol. I am a huge fan of Wikipedia but the first part of that page is absurd. No cites and biased attacks that seem to exist because a third party sold reprinted Wikipedia articles through amazon.

I tried to drudge through the guardian article but it was bad writing that was just leading to complaints by someone who never had to work a real job in their life. It did not point to any systematic mistreatment of employees. It simply points out that warehouse picking jobs generally suck and the pay is not great. There are not exceptions to this out there.

These are reporters trying to write something based on a pitch meeting and a deadline not based on expected or reported workplace atrocities needing further investigation.
 
It's "Hear, Hear!" as in "Hear this", not "Here, here"

(one of my pet peeves)

It's an eggcorn to replace the words in such a way. It isn't a sign of illiteracy, poor spelling, or poor grammar when these occur... But imaginative ways to convey something that has been heard into the lexicon in their own way... And when that happens, "wallah," you have a word that conveys the same message (voila)... "Supposebly" this occurs frequently enough someone coined a term for it to describe the occurrences and try to define their usefulness.
 
they banned my account with no warnings or notice and screwed over all my DIGITAL PURCHASES and bricked two kindles in the process. F them, even if you think your account would never get banned I want everyone to take note that they have the ability to mess you up real badly and what's worse screw over digital content that you supposedly OWN over issues that have no relationship to the digital purchases. Other than that, yeah, great idea, the market is screaming for yet another set top streaming media box.

Couldn't you just hack it? I had to hack mine. Paid full price for my Paperwhite a couple of years ago from Waterstones. Except if you buy from them they force their crappy advertising on it as a lock screen. I hacked it to remove all that gunk. Surely if you can get access to it you can just do what you want, put files on it without any connection to Amazon's services?
 
Amazon is a great company for those of us who do not abuse and misuse their return policies.

Buying more than you return (lol) does not make you some kind of uber customer. Returns have a significant cost. Margins on most items are such that you would have to buy a massive number of items to offset abuse of their return policies. If you were spending 250k a year and abusing the return system that is one thing. If you are spending 5k a year and abusing the return system you are a bad customer.

You know what you were doing and why they banned you. No sympathy for you at all. It is people like you who ultimately cause companies to enact more stringent policies that don't favor consumers.

I totally agree with all of the above. I received a warning from them for what they deemed to be excessive returns. They took no actions on my account. The part where the original poster said they bricked his/her tablets. I find that hard to believe. They can shutdown your account and lose your digital purchases but to wiffully destroy hardware i'm not buying that especially from a company like Amazon.
 
Forget the 1st gen. But, gen 2 and 3, come on! Same crappy interface and no App store. Roku's interface looks much better and I can add channels I want.

You said Apple has never updated ATV. That includes all ATVs.
Actually the gen 2 originally had a different interface than the current one (better IMHO). When the 3 came out Apple updated the 2s via firmware. Apple has also added channels & functionality along the way too in slow drips. So you can't say Apple hasn't been tweaking it over the years.

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Pretty simple - Right Amazon does but Apple generally doesn't. Since AppleTV is NOT open currently and Amazon has to negotiate with Apple to get their app on AppleTV. The likelihood goes WAY down if Amazon releases their own competing device.

Now if Apple does open up AppleTV then I would fully expect Amazon to release an app for it.

Don't follow your reasoning. I buy my music on Amazon & listen to it on my iDevices with Amazon Cloud Player app. I have Amazon Prime & watch videos via the Amazon Instant Video app. If I wanted to I could buy ebooks on Amazon & read them on the Kindle App.

Given that history of Amazons support for iOS & Apple's approval of them, again I ask, why would Apple not approve an Amazon Instant Video app if/when it opens ATV to devs? (ATV isn't open now, of course, but all the whispers plus hints from Tim Cook indicate Apple is about to do so).
 
I'd really hate to see Apple lose the web TV box race.

I like my Chromecast more than my Apple TV at the moment.

Since Apple have repeatedly said that the Apple TV is "just a hobby", it's safe to say that they are not really in this race.

It will be much more interesting to observe the products from companies who take this market seriously: Amazon, Microsoft (Xbox One), just to name the big players who are already shipping real products - and not just publishing their "hobbies".

That's what I'd say if I didn't want to flat out say our product paled in comparison to every competitor.

Last May Tim Cook said Apple TV sales had surpassed 13 million. How is that not shipping a real product? Based on 9to5Mac's recent reporting it's pretty much a guarantee we'll see a revamped Apple TV this year. My guess is it will be announced at WWDC, especially if it gets an SDK.

I really hope so. I'm not buying a Roku yet in hopes that the new Apple TV will beat the rest. Current gen Apple TVs are $83 at Best Buy right now, maybe that means something?
 
It's an eggcorn to replace the words in such a way. It isn't a sign of illiteracy, poor spelling, or poor grammar when these occur... But imaginative ways to convey something that has been heard into the lexicon in their own way... And when that happens, "wallah," you have a word that conveys the same message (voila)... "Supposebly" this occurs frequently enough someone coined a term for it to describe the occurrences and try to define their usefulness.

Thanks for introducing me to the word "eggcorn." The funny part is the Mac autocorrect dictionary insists on changing it to two words when typed, even though it is defined properly as one word. But I have to disagree about whether they are the result of a kind of illiteracy. This fault can only occur if you've only ever heard a word or expression spoken, and not read. Right here in this thread, someone said they had to "drudge through an article." Knowing word definitions makes committing this kind of malapropism highly unlikely.
 
It's an eggcorn to replace the words in such a way. It isn't a sign of illiteracy, poor spelling, or poor grammar when these occur... But imaginative ways to convey something that has been heard into the lexicon in their own way... And when that happens, "wallah," you have a word that conveys the same message (voila)... "Supposebly" this occurs frequently enough someone coined a term for it to describe the occurrences and try to define their usefulness.

No, actually, it's called not speaking (or rather, writing) the English language properly.
 
No, actually, it's called not speaking (or rather, writing) the English language properly.

Glass houses … stones … etc.

No; it's actually called speaking (or, rather, writing) the English language improperly.

If you are going to put yourself out there, make sure your own nose is clean.
 
It doesn't really matter. Since the courts ruled against the FCC, and Comcast purchasing Time Warner (and it will get approved), the big ISP's will throttle streaming sites to death. It's over for streaming in the next few years, unless of course you stream from the ISP's list of approved sites.
 
Glass houses … stones … etc.

No; it's actually called speaking (or, rather, writing) the English language improperly.

If you are going to put yourself out there, make sure your own nose is clean.

Actually both sentences mean the same thing and what I wrote is NOT grammatically incorrect. My nose is more than clean.

"Not speaking properly" is the same as "speaking improperly"
 
Actually both sentences mean the same thing and what I wrote is NOT grammatically incorrect. My nose is more than clean.

"Not speaking properly" is the same as "speaking improperly"

But using a comma to separate two independent clauses without a conjunction is not the same as using a semicolon. (By the way, you missed a comma between your two independent clauses above--a pet peeve of mine.)

I agree that using the negative gerund is technically correct, but it is much clearer if you just use the negative adverb. It's also better to put "actually" next to the word it modifies. In your first post, it is an adverb that modifies your verb "is called." In your last, it modifies "mean."

My point is only that people on the internet love to call out little grammatical errors. But the real issue is the lack of clarity in written language.
 
Lol. I am a huge fan of Wikipedia but the first part of that page is absurd. No cites and biased attacks that seem to exist because a third party sold reprinted Wikipedia articles through amazon.

I tried to drudge through the guardian article but it was bad writing that was just leading to complaints by someone who never had to work a real job in their life. It did not point to any systematic mistreatment of employees. It simply points out that warehouse picking jobs generally suck and the pay is not great. There are not exceptions to this out there.

These are reporters trying to write something based on a pitch meeting and a deadline not based on expected or reported workplace atrocities needing further investigation.

:rolleyes:

So basically you don't want to believe Amazon could be so bad you'll try and find excuses and attack the messenger.....
 
I love my Apple TV but it never gets used.

The Roku on the other hand get's used every day.

Apple TV may give me Hulu+ and Netflix, but my Roku also gives me Amazon Video and most importantly Vudu. Throw in live TV ala Simple.TV (in my case) and it's no brainer.

If Apple Tv was less of a hobbie I wouldn't have to have at all my TV's and in my car. Where Apple TV I only have one in the living room, as "MY" hobby box. ;)
 
I find it very satisfying. It's just as good as Netflix IMO and better than hulu plus.


I found Amazon instant video to be good but the Amazon Prime video (the free selection) to be very poor (IMO) (The free video catalog is so much smaller then the Netflix catalog and is nowhere near the selection and quality of Netflix (IMO)). Amazon uses the free video as a hook to get you to purchase the shows / movies on Amazon Instant video to see the content that you really want to see.

Amazon Prime is also going up in price $20 - $40 dollars.

Note - I have a Roku so I can watch Amazon Instant video. Amazon Instant video is a good alternative to iTunes which is why I doubt we will ever see it on an Apple TV. Amazon Prime is also a good deal if you buy a lot from Amazon and you can't wait for the free standard shipping (orders over $35.00). Don't waste your money on Amazon Prime if all you want is the free video.
 
Hmm. I'm sure Amazon brass never thought about that. Sure did stop the Kindle in its tracks :rolleyes:

It seems you are not aware of the huge delays in bringing new Amazon products and services to Canada. It took almost a year before they made the Kindle Paperwhite available here.
 
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