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The fire doesn't have 3G so that's a pretty big hardware limitation when it comes to processing voice requests. Can't really access the cloud infrastructure without it unless you've got wifi.

Probably why Apple only has siri on the iPhone and not pads. Most pads don't have cellular and they're trying to keep a consistent experience. Probably next iPad will be marketed with siri being a reason to spend more on a 3g capable iPad.

I wasn't referring to Fire. Amazon would certainly offer an Android app and their own iPhone app that works on non-4S devices (if Apple would even allow that).

And I have Wifi access pretty much all the time. Who is Apple to tell me I don't need Siri on my iPad while sitting in my own house? I don't get the argument that you need 3G at all.
 
I look forward to having this tech on *all* my devices.

I don’t think Siri makes a lot of sense on “all” devices. It makes far more sense to have Siri on your iPhone and open up APIs to interact with other devices. By keeping Siri on your personal device there’s an implicit intimacy and trust built up between agent and user which is critical. iPads, computers, ATM machines, credit card readers even iPod touches, very few of our digital devices are so uniquely and definitively ours as the mobile phone.

Extrapolate out one level of personalization and think of Apple TV. If Siri were incorporated to ATV it now needs to have user profiles since members of my family might all have a playlist called Favorites.

Move another level out to say shared computing at a school or office where multiple people may access the same terminal. I don’t want the kind of information Siri needs to be so useful sitting on a terminal like that.

Expand again to a publicly accessible terminal to something like an ATM, flight check-in or a drive-thru. I have far more trust in Siri accurately making a transaction while maintaining my privacy and security over payment details than I do McDonalds or my bank.

The personal nature of Siri is perhaps as important as the actual “AI” and is something services like Zypr and Yap will have a hard time replicating.
 
I haven't tried Siri yet, but is it just me or does it seem like a bad idea? This voice recognition and all. I almost feel like not upgrading my phone because of it. Seems like a gimmick. Do I really want to talk to my phone in public letting those around me what i'm planning or doing?

Not sure if this is the way to go.
Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. Try it first and then decide. I think you'll see it's no gimmick.

I don't ask it a lot of questions, but I do say stuff like "Call my wife"; "Text > insert name <"; "Play > insert song name <... but what I really do now is let it SMS for me. Does a great job. 99% accurate. Amazing. Long texts with no effort. I text more than ever before (I have unlimited texting)... so I feel like I'm getting my money's worth. Hands down: SMS is the best.

Siri is only going to get better. Everyone will find how THEY need to use it their way. No two alike. But you know Apple is holding stuff back... that said... it'll get more powerful with each update.

DID YOU KNOW?: Did you know that Siri comes standard so that when you bring the phone up to your ear (as you would in a normal phone call) it automatically starts Siri's beep so that you can ask her a question? This makes using Siri in public a non-issue. Sure, if you don't want people to know a private SMS, don't do it, but asking certain questions of her just makes it seem as if you're asking someone on the other line the question. BTW, WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE THINK?! Live your life to please yourself. You're not hurting anyone and if someone thinks that being able to ask a logical question of an electronic device and getting the answer is dumb, then who are THEY to judge?! I have had many people ask me about Siri with amazed wonder and ZERO —ZERO — people give me the "God, that's stupid" look. ZERO.
 
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Apple wasn't the first to have voice recognition. Why does everyone assume everyone else copies Apple maybe, Amazon was copying Android?

Ah, there you are. The Android apologist. Directly underneath the post that explains the bigger picture market implications and shift in paradigm, rather than trying to score little points off cherry-picked details.

Apple also wasn't first to produce an MP3 player. But history records how the iPod and Apple's approach changed the game and the decade. One would think a Google fanboy would understand this, as Google themselves did the exact same thing with their search engine. It was f-a-r from the first. So it must be inferior and why should anybody care? But where's AltaVista now? Lycos? ..... a whole bunch of other search engines that nobody remembers. Who doesn't use Google Search? Everything you can say about why the Google search engine is now the standard can also be applied to many of Apple's products.
 
Do I really want to talk to my phone in public letting those around me what i'm planning or doing?

So using this logic, you don't use your phone to talk to other people since someone might overhear what you're planning or doing?
 
I haven't tried Siri yet, but is it just me or does it seem like a bad idea? This voice recognition and all. I almost feel like not upgrading my phone because of it. Seems like a gimmick. Do I really want to talk to my phone in public letting those around me what i'm planning or doing?

Not sure if this is the way to go.
There's an off switch for Siri.

Actually, most iOS features can be turned off. You can turn off push notifications, location services, cellular data, WiFi, Bluetooth, alerts, sounds, iMessage, Facetime. You're not required to configure e-mail/Twitter/iCloud, you can keep your calendar and address book empty, you never need to use the camera. Heck, if you prefer not even taking it out of the box and just using it as a paperweight or a door stop, you're free to do that too.

You're not obligated to use all the features of any device you purchase.
 
Amazon buying a speech recognition company? Isn't that the company about to put out a new tablet product with no microphone?

Yes - because just DAYS before they launch the product, they will incorporate a company that they just bought. Clearly the acquisition was meant for the first gen Fire. It couldn't possibly be for the next gen - or perhaps an entirely different product.

Your glib sarcasm was duly noted tho :)
 
It's important to note that what makes Siri so different isn't the voice recognition, it's the AI behind it. Voice recognition is nothing new or particularly earth shattering and being able to parse voice input is only one small part of the equation. Amazon will still have a long way to go even with this acquisition...

Siri is about understanding and interpreting context, which a lot of people don't seem to get. My Android phone has straightforward speech to text conversion capability, but that's not the same thing - and I assume the iPhone has had that for a while too.
 
Siri is about understanding and interpreting context, which a lot of people don't seem to get. My Android phone has straightforward speech to text conversion capability, but that's not the same thing - and I assume the iPhone has had that for a while too.

Finally.

Yes. it's the NATURAL speech recognition that sets Siri apart. And it works very well.
 
Since when is Siri voice recognition? Obviously it needs voice recognition to work, but what Siri does is on another level than excellent voice recognition.
 
Ah, there you are. The Android apologist. Directly underneath the post that explains the bigger picture market implications and shift in paradigm, rather than trying to score little points off cherry-picked details.

Apple also wasn't first to produce an MP3 player. But history records how the iPod and Apple's approach changed the game and the decade. One would think a Google fanboy would understand this, as Google themselves did the exact same thing with their search engine. It was f-a-r from the first. So it must be inferior and why should anybody care? But where's AltaVista now? Lycos? ..... a whole bunch of other search engines that nobody remembers. Who doesn't use Google Search? Everything you can say about why the Google search engine is now the standard can also be applied to many of Apple's products.

Post of the day
 
Amazon is slowly moving into a competition with Apple. Fire vs iPad, eBooks, and I can see them making a bigger move with music with their Prime members. Something to watch since it gets less attention than the feud with Google.
 

Now that I think about it that is probably correct, the reported average of 36kb per message only needs a factor of ≈ 4.7 compression ratio assuming the message is 2 seconds, minus return message, headers and other crap. :)

iOS had basic voice recognition even before siri, which was done entirely on the divice, obviosly with siri there are more components like nlp and so on involved.
 
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Companies are so good at copying what Apple does, but completely unable to come up with these ideas on their own...
 
I haven't tried Siri yet, but is it just me or does it seem like a bad idea? This voice recognition and all. I almost feel like not upgrading my phone because of it. Seems like a gimmick. Do I really want to talk to my phone in public letting those around me what i'm planning or doing?

Not sure if this is the way to go.

It's not the voice recognition that is important, you can enter your command by text if you want (I'm sure Apple will eventually provide such option). The IMPORTANT part of Siri is how it takes your command and understand what you actually mean and then perform the corresponding task, for example, "wake me up at 7 in the morning", "send a note to my wife", "do i need a jacket next Monday", etc.... Imagine it's all done in one shot, without you having to go through several manual steps on the phone to achieve the same effect. There's no application out there that can do that.
 
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