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The specs sound pretty stout, IPS display, dual core. I didn't see a specific numeric resolution mentioned, but I did see WVGA, so [I assuming] that's 800x480.

Quoting my own post for a correction :)

From Amazon.com:

7" multi-touch display with IPS (in-plane switching) technology and anti-reflective treatment, 1024 x 600 pixel resolution at 169 ppi, 16 million colors.
 
The only threat towards Apple really is the iTunes bookstore. From what I understand people just aren't buying books through Apple, and this tablet combined with a new Kindle for $79 will further bump up Amazon's marketshare in the ebook area.

The Fire Tablet isn't really designed to compete with the iPad. It's designed to be a Kindle on steroids by being an ebook reader plus a media player.

I love my iPad and use it every day, but no I won't buy books through iTunes for precisely this reason. The Kindle e-ink technology is very nice and I'd like to be able to read my books on my iPad or on my Kindle depending on situation.

But Apple doesn't need the book sale market to continue selling iPads.
 
I am not sure I will get it but I preordered to grab a place in line. I want an iPad but at the moment $500+ is too much for my budget and this would do me plenty well for the time being. :)
 
From the site:

Up to 8 hours of continuous reading or 7.5 hours of video playback, with wireless off. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as web browsing and downloading content.

Hmm, that's ok. It has some good features and if you're an Amazon Prime customer already, it is probably a good buy.

I haven't synced my iPad with a cable for a while now, yet it is still up to date and despite that being an annoyance at first, I think Apple's come up with a good system for syncing. iCloud streaming in AppleTV of purchases is pretty nice, and I think we'll start seeing that for purchased video too.

And the guy who called me a fanboi - get a life, mate! I know USB syncing has been a pain, but at least Apple is addressing it, and the combination of wifi sync and iCloud, I think you'll really be happy with it. Also the fact that Out of the box, you won't have to sync an iPhone or iPad to even use it, something Apple's lagged behind on. Despite this, who has gotten wireless syncing right so far? Microsoft with their Zune, maybe, but not many people have been using it. DoubleTwist, you have to pay for it, and I use Google Music on my Epic 4G and that's only ok.
 
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Achieving secondary meaning. Apple failed to do that with Multi-touch, otherwise like stated in the decision, they would have been granted the trademark. Amazon marketed "1-Click" aggressively and made sure that the term was associated with Amazon back in the day when they applied for the trademark.

Did you even read the explanation of why it was denied? It had nothing to do with 'secondary meaning'.

Seriously folk, gotta pay attention and read the whole decisions, not just skim through if you're going to make comments like these.

Yeah, pot, kettle...etc.
 
It's far more of an open platform than an iOS device.

How so ? The Kindle Fire doesn't seem open from the information we have. Time will tell, but for now it seems very locked down to Amazon offerings (if it works in the Amazon eco-system, it will work on Kindle Fire, but there's no guarantee outside apps like the Android Market or side loading will).

Do you have any source you're willing to cite to the contrary ?
 
- No camera's at all for video
- small selection of Android tablet apps
- 8GB of onboard memory

The only thing compelling is the price. If Apple releases the iPad 1 for $199, the Fire would have absolutely nothing on it.
 
I love the 7" form factor. The iPad is fine for casual browsing around the house, but it's too big to be pocketable and if I'm carrying a bag, I might as well bring my MBA since it is only marginally bigger than the iPad and I get a real keyboard and OSX.

Leaving 3G off the Fire definitely takes it out of the "Color Kindle" category... I would have been interested even if the "free" level of service only allowed sync'ing of traditional Kindle content, but not video.

If the Fire had 3G, then it would be an automatic pre-order for me, but as of now I'll wait for a proper review.
 
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I am lost between the smartphones and tablets at this point. iPhone4 is got right size for me however Samsung Galaxy is too big to be considered as samrtphone but not big enough to be a tablet. Kindle fire is got the same issue...is too small for a tablet but too big for a smartphone (well...of course its primary role is to be a tablet). However 7" will be good for reading books and might be good enough for watching movies. For browsing or apps there is no market for it. No camera. No surprise $199
There is something in the S. Jobs statement that 7" tablets are without future. And I must agree on that.
Kindle fire then?...no thanks...Waiting for iPad3

My $0.02
 
My wife and I each have a MacBook and an iPhone. I have an iPad 2. We love our Apple TV. Needless to say we are huge Apple supporters. We also adore our Kindles and I have already preordered my Fire. for 199.00 and access to their entire content library, consider me giddy with anticipation at its arrival.

Apple and Amazon seem to be the two companies that get consumers.
 
Screw the new iPod touch, I'm getting this!

And I just love the fact that everyone is bashing the Amazon cloud system now, but they'll ramble on how great iCloud is.

Trolls.
 
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Dissapointed in no ePub support. Otherwise, the new kindle looks perfect. Oh well, maybe next year.
 
Then its a good job we aren't talking about food but tech

Food, tech, cars, does not matter because the principle is exactly the same. The Kindle is a great product but it's not a true competitor to the iPad so it's silly to compare them anymore than you would a Chevy to a BMW or McDonalds to a Michelin rated restaurant.
 
It's far more of an open platform than an iOS device.

Agree with this ... supported formats:

Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.

Picking up one for each daughter for school use ... and I'll be putting my kid friendly iTunes music there for them.
 
Also, leaving out 3G in their "flagship" model seems puzzling.

I think the reason they left 3G out is because giving 3G access to people who are only downloading books is one thing. They wouldn't be able to afford giving 3G access to people who are browsing the web, ect. So if they wanted to include 3G then they would have to set up agreements with wireless providers and offer contracts for 3G service and I think they probably wanted to avoid that mess. Not to mention, adding a 3G radio would increase the price (which I think is a huge selling point for Amazon).
 
love it

I LOVE hearing from the apple fanboys and haters.

Competition is a great thing for the market.

:apple: fanboys and haters just don't want to hear it. Too busy in their own worlds LOL
 
Amazon may be able to compete, IF it provides an app ecosystem as good as the iTunes app store. That hasn't happened with the Kindle... maybe the Kindle Fire will be a move in that direction?

Amazon have not even tried to build a software ecosystem around the traditional Kindle. There was a closed beta SDK that they had given to a few developers, but nothing ever came out of it.

But things are different now. Their Android App Store has been online for quite a while now and since this new Kindle runs an "amazonized" flavor of Android, there are plenty of apps available for it right from the start.

So... There's more than enough content available for the Kindle Fire and Amazon can look back on many years of cloud experience. But what's even more important, Amazon has earned the TRUST of millions of customers since its launch.

For 199 USD, there is no reason why this device won't be a tremendous success. For less than half the price, it will give the iPad a run for the money. And rumor has it that a 10" version is going to follow next year.

I think that this will be the first serious competition for Apple's iOS/iTunes/iCloud ecosystem.

I think I will place a pre-order for this thing when it appears on Amazon.de...
 
Food, tech, cars, does not matter because the principle is exactly the same. The Kindle is a great product but it's not a true competitor to the iPad so it's silly to compare them anymore than you would a Chevy to a BMW or McDonalds to a Michelin rated restaurant.

Its not meant to be. Not everyone needs everything that the iPad offers. It has been priced and specced for those who dont. Before you didn't have any good options if you wanted a Tab that wasn't an iPad. Now you do
 
Nice toy to have around the house, specially for that price.
No, it won't replace my iPad.
This will be more like the household pet, the picture frame, something to distract visitors.
Who knows, maybe it could server as a remote control for the whole house.
 
Did you even read the explanation of why it was denied? It had nothing to do with 'secondary meaning'.

Yes, I did read the explanation. It was denied for 2 reasons :

- It was a descriptive term. Multi-touch was describing the technology itself and the way the user interacts with the device.
- Apple failed to show it had achieved secondary meaning, ie, it was used all over the place without referring to Apple and Apple did not put enough effort in pushing the term itself on its own advertising and packaging to warrant they get exclusive use of it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/66447722/Multi-Touch-Trademark

The Federal Circuit, our primary reviewing court, hasstated that “the greater the degree of descriptiveness theterm has, the heavier the burden to prove it has attained secondary meaning.”

Apple failed to provide such evidence. If they had, they would have been granted the trademark. kdarling did quite a bit of analysis of Apple's lame attempt (trumpeting sales figure of the devices, failing to show that "Multi-Touch" was used in advertising and packaging).

So no, I'm not the pot calling the kettle black, I actually read the decision and the reasons behind it. You should to before trying to compare it to other situations so that you are familiar with the nuances behind trademarks and their grant process.
 
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Combined with amazon prime with unlimited tv shows and movies would be a killer

Have ever used Amazon Prime Instant Videos? The service sucks. Amazon can't even deliver an SD show in SD quality. One reason I haven't dumped Netflix yet after it's price increases.
 
I don't think the Fire will give her all the games she might want. If its content you're after, no one has built something like apple's app store yet.

Amazon is actually great for music and movies, so they'll have those on their Fire, but I don't know how apps will play into this.

Shes TWO. (and, at this price point - plus android apps - shell have every single app she wants, and more)
 
Agree with this ... supported formats:

Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.

My iOS device supports the bolded formats (and most of those others as well).
 
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