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Apple does better quality. While I am not married to Apple, my association with Apple began with the 1984 Macintosh. It cost 60K less than the more-or-less equivalent Xerox Star System I was considering for my publishing services business. It operated more smoothly. Everything worked together. The same applies today. Macintoshes—called Macs today—provide business value for eight or more years and very seldom need servicing. Today, I replace each Mac every eight years—sometimes a little sooner just for fun. But I am still using a 2008 Aluminum MacBook—the original aluminum Mac. It never goes on the web, but runs fine. I replaced its original hard drive with an SSD and run Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard is basically Darwin (Apple Unix) with a cool user interface. It does email, music, ebooks, photos, movies. It also runs TeX nicely and Perl, two of my primary publishing tools. My more modern system uses current Macs, iPhones, iPads, Homepods, Apple TV, HomeKit products… Everything works together well. Apple does not stick its ears and nose into my life. Amazon is cool for shopping, but I see no reason to use its electronic products, or products by Google or Meta—no way. I do like Alexa and do not trust Google or Meta. This is just my experience and preference. I am not the final authority on anything.
 
I got 4 and the connection with Spotify Connect is getting worse and worse like they just refuse to play music together and my basic Echo Show shouldn't have ever been released, it's been slow AF from day one and ironically bad at simply showing the time + weather?

I am pretty much using them as a Bark alert of my dog when I am out at this point
 
It's crazy the amount of research that's required to find one that isn't taking your videos. Amazon and Meta would be the last two companies I'd trust at all; I'd put Tesla at the top, then Google and Microsoft to fill out the top 5.
They offer their services for free because they harvest our information, and people can't resist free. Perhaps if they start charging subscriptions in lieu of data harvesting, there would be an exodus? I wouldn't miss them. We've lived without them all before.
 
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Uhm so this thing is constantly listening? Is it processing all that data locally? I highly doubt it. That seems to be quite some invasive data scraping...

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I don't have any shows, but I do have four dots, one of them is pretty old and one Echo 4th gen.
No adverts on them, they work with my smart home stuff and good for a bit of music or radio. The 4th gen echo sound quality is Okay.
I thought the Alexa+ was going to be available to everyone, even with older units, have a faster smart speaker is not going to make a lot of difference as all the processing is done by Amazon. No doubt, this will take a while to reach the UK.
I doubt will bother to buy any more units, I have enough, not sure about this Alexa+, I know it is early days, but been reading that a few people have problems with it
 
Uhm so this thing is constantly listening? Is it processing all that data locally? I highly doubt it. That seems to be quite some invasive data scraping...

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And you think your Apple stuff is not doing the same thing?
Sadly, it is happening everywhere and if you believe that Apple don't data scrape, then I have a bridge to sell you
 
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The privacy implications for such a device are enormous but they don't get even a mention, because it's all about pushing more and more half-baked technology into our lives
 
This is just my opinion but I could care less that they have ads. I have a bunch of echo show and speakers around the house and they sound decent enough for the price (they are almost always on sale) and I find them helpful, and Alexa is my go to for home automation, I gave up on HomeKit long ago. So they have ads? So it may be listening and watching? I have nothing to hide let them watch and listen. I could care less. My echo show 15 has a full fire tv UI and it’s very useful to me in my kitchen. I respect that people may be bothered by this but I don’t mind it. As for these devices I think they’re a bit overpriced and again, wait for the inevitable sale.
 
The killer feature has to be home cinema. 5 echo dots, 3 at the front and two for rears. This is the one thing i really want from the homepods. Two at the front, mini for the centre and two minis for the rears. Come on Apple make it happen :)
 
Paying to put something in your living room that will advertise to you non-stop. Amazon Echo screen devices are trash. And Alexa+ is as dumb as most AI out there.
Have you actually used it? A product that hasn’t even been released (at least in the UK). Even if it’s only half as good as ChatGPT5, that’s still a massive upgrade and lightyears better than Siri pretending to be useful.

And yes, even if they paid me to put a billboard with a speaker in my living room just to nag me with ads, I’d still say no.
 
And you think your Apple stuff is not doing the same thing?
Sadly, it is happening everywhere and if you believe that Apple don't data scrape, then I have a bridge to sell you
Well, sell me that bridge then. Apple does not listen in on my house, as confirmed by my firewall.
 
You could give me one of these and I'd just throw it in the trash.

I can't believe people pay to have these surveillance & advertising boxes in their houses.
You just posted this from your iPhone, and whether you want to believe it or not, you're under surveillance already. How can people be this naive.
 
And you think your Apple stuff is not doing the same thing?
Sadly, it is happening everywhere and if you believe that Apple don't data scrape, then I have a bridge to sell you
It's amazing what some people will overlook with their Apple colored glasses on lolllllllll
 
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