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My tv is 720p. I have resolution set to auto.

Interesting. I'm currently using a 2nd gen. ATV with a 720p display (a projector, actually). I'm tempted to grab a 3rd gen one and plug it in and see the difference side by side.

Anybody else see any difference between 2nd and 3rd gen ATVs, resolution aside?
 
ZzzzzZzzzzZzzz.....

Is Amazon really going to let people stream other services besides their own? Seems kind of silly to allow people to use your product to use their biggest competitor.

You think anyone is going to buy a streaming dongle that only supports Amazon's service? Netflix is the killer app for all these devices. Edit: If anything, it's Netflix that needs to have someone make them their own branded dongle (make it red) that will only stream their service. Price it less than Chromecast and they will sell a ton of them.

I frankly find the whole dongle thing a bit puzzling, as most of these same people already will own a BD player -- which can stream Netflix, Hulu, and AmazonOnDemand already.
 
As a Prime customer I've only found one thing I'd want to watch on it that isn't already on Netflix. I haven't used Instant Video because of the horrible, horrible UI. Hopefully this device will change that.



Battlestar Galactica. That one thing is Battlestar Galactica, isn't it? Isn't it!? :D

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Airplay or my AppleTV has never failed me. But then again, my Xbox360 never fails to load Netflix or Amazon either, so maybe my wifi network and internet connection are just super-duper awesome! :D


Actually, Prime also has some Viacom (nick, CBS, etc) shows Hulu and Netflix are both missing, as well as WB shows (Batman: TAS, Veronica Mars, et al) that I use it for. Of course, I use my xbox versus AirPlay, but would love a proper Apple TV app.
 
Follow Apple

It's apparent to me we see more & more company's following Apple.
Whatever Apple comes out with, eventually other company's copy and say how much better they are then Apple!

I've been using Apple TV for years and never a problem!
Apple redefined Smartphones, created the Tablet form and perfected it just like Smartphones (iPhone)!

Now we are seeing the Apple TV being targeted for more wannabe Apple company's! By no means do I have anything bad to say of Amazon, they are a great company and the best selling product and making it easy and convenient.

Apple TV is going to continue to get perfected and hopefully their own TV screen!
:apple::apple::apple::cool:

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Interesting. I'm currently using a 2nd gen. ATV with a 720p display (a projector, actually). I'm tempted to grab a 3rd gen one and plug it in and see the difference side by side.

Anybody else see any difference between 2nd and 3rd gen ATVs, resolution aside?[/QUOTE

I believe the jump to 1080 from 720 is the only difference.....:apple:
 
I just want Amazon instant video app on my Apple TV :D


Me too! The only thing I stream on my Xbox. But would rather just go to one. Not have to decide what I want to watch before I sit down.

Interesting. I'm currently using a 2nd gen. ATV with a 720p display (a projector, actually). I'm tempted to grab a 3rd gen one and plug it in and see the difference side by side.



Anybody else see any difference between 2nd and 3rd gen ATVs, resolution aside?


It could be pure coincidence, but my streaming for Netflix (only one I had any issues with on the 2nd gen) has seen a dramatically improved performance.

Plus, I did get $226 on eBay for my 2nd gen, so it payed for my 3rd gen, and put the rest away for the 4th gen.
 
Actually when my AppleTV is acting up, I switch to the Chromecast for Netflix. It just works.

actually, ive never had any issues w/ my Apple TV acting up, because it just works.

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I wish Apple made something like this that allowed Airplay to work without an Apple TV and Airport Extreme/Express/Time Capsule.

you dont need an Airport for airplay to work, just an Apple TV and any wifi router.

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I just want Amazon instant video app on my Apple TV :D

thatll happen when the amazon device has an itunes app.

but really, whats stopping you from using airplay to beam your amazon content to your apple tv? done.

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If anything, it's Netflix that needs to have someone make them their own branded dongle (make it red) that will only stream their service. Price it less than Chromecast and they will sell a ton of them.[/I]

they already did -- the roku was an internal netflix project. they realized they didnt want to be in the hardware business and spun it off. it's better to provide an API to *anyone* that wants to make the hardware *for* you -- TV set makers, console makers, DVD/BR makers, etc...
 
I have amazon prime but don't use the streaming as I use apple tvs and Netflix.

I'd probably watch it more with something like this.
 
This is what I want: a dongle* that I can plug into the tv, and then to be able to stream from my macbook/iPhone/iPad via an ad-hoc connection directly between the device and the dongle - without requiring an infrastructure wireless network provided by a router (Airport Extreme/Express/time capsule).

I have an Apple TV, I know how great it is, and I know exactly what it does not do.

*kinda like this.

I understood you didn't want to use an "Airport Extreme/Express/Time Capsule", but you only excluded those 3 and that threw me off since you really meant any wireless router (or if you'd said ad-hoc). Sorry.

So, if you wanted to stream internet audio/video or show webpages via this AdHoc connection, your sending device would still need an additional connection to the Internet? Or in your scenario, you've already got all your content on your MacBook/iPhone/iPad??

Gary
 
Or in your scenario, you've already got all your content on your MacBook/iPhone/iPad??

Gary

Yup. Basically just looking for a simple wireless HDMI connection.

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you dont need an Airport for airplay to work, just an Apple TV and any wifi router.

This is very obvious. What wasn't as obvious was my intention that I don't want to have use any router or Apple TV to display on a TV. ;) Basically a super easy wireless dongle alternative to a displayport-to-HDMI cable. :)
 
Yup. Basically just looking for a simple wireless HDMI connection.

Is the device where you have all your content even capable of streaming to this (nonexistent) HDMI dongle and being connected to the internet at the same time or would you have to lose your (wireless) internet connection (or need another wireless card [assuming non-iOS device]). Or I guess you could connect to the internet via Ethernet too?

Gary
 
Is the device where you have all your content even capable of streaming to this (nonexistent) HDMI dongle and being connected to the internet at the same time or would you have to lose your (wireless) internet connection (or need another wireless card [assuming non-iOS device]). Or I guess you could connect to the internet via Ethernet too?

Gary

Nonexistent?

Yes, you can be on the same wifi that provides your internet, but again, that defeats my specific scenario, which is being able to stream to a TV without wifi network infrastructure.

Again, the scenario is not to mirror while connected to the internet or stream from the Internet. I am looking for a wireless analog to a displayport cable, nothing more.
 
Nonexistent?

Again, the scenario is not to mirror while connected to the internet or stream from the Internet. I am looking for a wireless analog to a displayport cable, nothing more.

Actually, that's not what you originally asked for....

I've seen VGA wireless devices like this (you can convert on the ends after?), is that enough or does it have to be HDMI? Or actual display port ports? (But they're WAY bigger than a dongle!)

I wish Apple made something like this that allowed Airplay to work without an Apple TV and Airport Extreme/Express/Time Capsule.

Our conversation started when you wanted Apple to make something that supports AirPlay. And linking to a not shipping product (that doesn't do what you asked for originally, at least I don't see that it does AirPlay) doesn't really correct my posting...

Yes, you can be on the same wifi that provides your internet, but again, that defeats my specific scenario, which is being able to stream to a TV without wifi network infrastructure.

No, not what I was asking, you misunderstood. With the device we're talking about (although now the specs have changed) can you do your point-to-point (AdHoc) and still have your laptop connected to the Internet via WiFi (dual connections); this is why I asked about the additional wireless (1 for AdHoc and one for Internet/OtherNetworkStuff) and/or about the EtherNet connection [or is your network going to be essentially dead except for the streaming]).

This networking question is not to be difficult: I'm seriously trying to understand your needs, if I find you a product, but then you complain you need to access your server or internet (in addition to the streaming) I want to know in advance.

Gary
 
Actually, that's not what you originally asked for....

Please, try to understand - telling me what I did or didn't originally ask for doesn't help the discussion. I realize that by me saying,
"I wish Apple made something like this that allowed Airplay to work without an Apple TV and Airport Extreme/Express/Time Capsule"
you thought that
a) I explicitly needed Apple's patented AirPlay functionality, and
b) I was somehow under the misconception that Airplay required Apple's own routers to work. I apologize for that confusion. In trying to answer your questions, I am clarifying my sloppy misuse of nomenclature. My original requirements have not changed. Let me clarify. By "Airplay" I mean that I only need to mirror a device - such as an iPad or Macbook Pro - to an HDMI-capable TV. That mirroring functionality can be implemented in any way; it does not have to be via Apple's AirPlay technology.

I've seen VGA wireless devices like this (you can convert on the ends after?), is that enough or does it have to be HDMI? Or actual display port ports? (But they're WAY bigger than a dongle!)

Whatever dongle is plugged into the television must be HDMI. If another dongle is required for the iPad or Macbook pro, so be it, but that's highly undesireable, in light of all the wireless cabilities built in to the iPad and Macbook Pro.

Our conversation started when you wanted Apple to make something that supports AirPlay. And linking to a not shipping product (that doesn't do what you asked for originally, at least I don't see that it does AirPlay) doesn't really correct my posting...

See above clarification of my functional requirements. Whether or not I "really" corrected your posting hasn't moved the discussion any further, clearly.

No, not what I was asking, you misunderstood. With the device we're talking about (although now the specs have changed) can you do your point-to-point (AdHoc) and still have your laptop connected to the Internet via WiFi (dual connections); this is why I asked about the additional wireless (1 for AdHoc and one for Internet/OtherNetworkStuff) and/or about the EtherNet connection [or is your network going to be essentially dead except for the streaming]).

I'm afraid I did understand your question with deft precision, but I was gravely mistaken that I had the ability to respond clearly. My answer is the same, but let me clarify:

If an HDMI dongle requires wifi to mirror (not necessariliy Airplay) an iPad or Macbook Pro, then there are two possibilities-

1) The dongle uses the same wifi network that the iPad or Macbook Pro uses for an internet connection. In this case, there is infrastructure, and internet.

2) The dongle uses an ad-hoc wifi network between itself and the iPad or Macbook Pro. In this case, there is no other wifi infrastructure the iPad or Macbook Pro can connect to ("dual connections", as you say) for internet connectivity. Unless the iPad or Macbook Pro has the capability to connect to two or more unique wireless networks simultaneously, the answer to your question
"can you do your point-to-point (AdHoc) and still have your laptop connected to the Internet via WiFi?"
is most definitely "no." Now you've also brought up the idea of ethernet connectivity. Totally different, totally not in my original question, scenario, or list of feasible solutions.

This networking question is not to be difficult: I'm seriously trying to understand your needs, if I find you a product, but then you complain you need to access your server or internet (in addition to the streaming) I want to know in advance.

I appreciate you not trying to be difficult, but honestly, it has been difficult - and I probably won't reply again here, as I am starting to confuse myself - especially when I in no way solicited your help in finding me a product that you'd be responsible for supporting in response to my "complaints" that you've preemptively invalidated.

Thank you for your assistance and contribution to my posts.

Sigh.
 
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