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AMD (ati) GPUs in next MBP (from cnet)
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Shared memory of onboard/inchip GPUs is the devil for any memory intensive applications. The CPU and GPU compete with each other for memory bandwidth.
But even worse: The Intel GPU built in to the CPU shares the CPU cache as well. So even for non-memory but CPU intensive applications with algorithms that could fit into the cache can suffer.
But even worse: The Intel GPU built in to the CPU shares the CPU cache as well. So even for non-memory but CPU intensive applications with algorithms that could fit into the cache can suffer.
a very big problem
The thing the worries me the most is that they want us thinking that "there in't simply enough space to CRAM it in there"...that is nonsense...
My personal solutions is easy enough...take out the ODD...add 1 more vent a decent AMD discrete GPU and a flash blade say 64GB + the usual HDD....there it goes, a beautiful and KILLER machine...
The biggest problem APPLE will have is the following: will that killer machine kill other of ouf products or not?
This in my opionion is their biggest problem...
The thing the worries me the most is that they want us thinking that "there in't simply enough space to CRAM it in there"...that is nonsense...
My personal solutions is easy enough...take out the ODD...add 1 more vent a decent AMD discrete GPU and a flash blade say 64GB + the usual HDD....there it goes, a beautiful and KILLER machine...
The biggest problem APPLE will have is the following: will that killer machine kill other of ouf products or not?
This in my opionion is their biggest problem...
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Right, which will make them more on par with nVidia offerings while offering a significant decrease in power consumption because it's on the chip itself.
I hope you're right but I doubt it.
At the very least, Apple's intent not to go with a discreet GPU in the 13" MBP tells me there's no room... which tells me the optical drive is going to stay.
Furthermore, Apple will somehow tout the implementation of "Sandy Bridge" in the 13" MBP as something so stupendous, there will most likely be no other changes. (i.e., lightpeak).
Kind of makes sense. No reason to retool factories for new unibodies since nothing else will change.
Also, it doesn't seem to bother Apple that the 13" MB & 13" MPB are so close in specs now so why would anybody expect that to change?
Hurraaaaahhhh!!!!!!!! Yaaaaaaayyyyy!!!!!
ATI Graphics have had higher performance for their TDP for ages. Would be awesome to have an ATI card in the 15 and 17" MB Pros. Especially if they remove the OD and fit in a larger cooling system to allow for a higher TDP chip.
The Current in the MBP is NVidia 330m is 23w TDP
The current ATI 5750m is 25w TDP
The current ATI 5770m is 30w TDP
The new ATI 6570m is 25w TDP (probably)
The future ATI 6750m is 25w TDP (probably)
The future ATI 6770m is 30w TDP (probably)
If they put a 6770m in I will send Steveekins flowers and a fruit basket. But even a 6750m would be better than the Nvidia 425m they may put in if they stick with them.
*TDP = Thermal Design Power = How much heat in watts is generated at full load.
ATI Graphics have had higher performance for their TDP for ages. Would be awesome to have an ATI card in the 15 and 17" MB Pros. Especially if they remove the OD and fit in a larger cooling system to allow for a higher TDP chip.
The Current in the MBP is NVidia 330m is 23w TDP
The current ATI 5750m is 25w TDP
The current ATI 5770m is 30w TDP
The new ATI 6570m is 25w TDP (probably)
The future ATI 6750m is 25w TDP (probably)
The future ATI 6770m is 30w TDP (probably)
If they put a 6770m in I will send Steveekins flowers and a fruit basket. But even a 6750m would be better than the Nvidia 425m they may put in if they stick with them.
*TDP = Thermal Design Power = How much heat in watts is generated at full load.
Apple "gets away" with it only because you buy it - freely and with no arm twisting.
You all can do your PC to MacBook hardware comparisons with regard to bells and whistles. Odds are, my Mac will simply outlive all but the priciest PC offerings.
I just bought a dozen business class Lenovos for my my company. $1325 each with 3 year "drop and spill" coverage, i3 processors, 4gb RAM, all the freaking ports you can shake a stick at including a 56k modem.
They are crap. I've seen better plastic on Fisher-Price toys.
actually the screen in the XPS (that he is referring to) is better than current mbp. see anandtech tests
Thanks for that info - perhaps the 6770 will be doable with the power savings of the new SB and possible removal of the ODD!!! I really hope so because then we'll have some serious graphics power.
Just offhand, does anyone know if the new 6m parts support openCL? Seems to be a big deal for the future of OS X...
ATI 6570M is probably the best fit from current 6xxxM line but hopefully there will be more chips and benchmarks soon. 65xxM have TDP of 11-30W so it's perfect for MBP, 67xxM may have too high TDP. On performance level, 65xxM should perform about the same as 57xx (both have 400 shaders and similar clocks).
Sandy Bridge will have similar TDPs as current chips (35W as standard, 25W for LV, +45W for quads)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html
Would be surprising if they didn't
Sandy Bridge will have similar TDPs as current chips (35W as standard, 25W for LV, +45W for quads)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html
Would be surprising if they didn't