And there is good reason for that. iPhones, iPads and now laptop/desktop computers. Just more volume.
It is still not "easy" to get EPYC from say Dell. I'm sure that's a different story with Supermicro or maybe HP. But, it adds up.
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It is still not "easy" to get EPYC from say Dell. I'm sure that's a different story with Supermicro or maybe HP. But, it adds up.
It is not in AMD's favor to compare itself to the M1 Max. A good strategy is to compare yourself to something you know is not the best (or on par) and claim you are better. However, I do agree that AMD should have compared itself to the M1 Max.
At some point, the speed improvements will be so little in terms of how beneficial it will be for most because of the diminishing returns. I like Apple's philosophy of balancing power consumption, battery life, and performance.
Actually AMD is TSMC's second largest costumer overall having their share in TSMC's revenue increase by more than 2x in the last 3 years while Apple's share is largely the same.
Long term AMD has way more potential than Apple as it has it's fingers in way more markets(servers, super computers, Machine Learning AI, to name a few).
So? US fabs have quite low capacity, Taiwan will remain +90% of TSMC's chips manufacturing share for quite some time.
Well, go back, read my comment and try to understand what I actually meant, not what you think I meant. Problem solved.
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The clock speed is as AMD confirmed it by officially publishing 7940HS's specs.
Anyway you very obviously have 0 idea how AMD's clocks and power scaling work and what does the 5.2Ghz actually mean(AMD has an official explanation of how boost technology works on their chips in case you want to find out).
I honestly can't understand why you insist on having all these opinions and assumptions when you lack very basic knowledge regarding AMD's CPUs, it really exhausting, like talking to a child. Now you are trying to suggest performance expectations for 2 different CPU architectures based on clock frequencies? That's a good one.
Very small chances M2 Pro is on 3nm.
Mass production for 3nm just started and rumors say yields are worse than 5nm were at launch and M2 Pro will be a huge chip. At first 3nm is adequate for smaller chips like the ones found in phones.
These new AMD APUs are really great if M2 Pros need to be on a more advance node in order to compete.
Actually lots of cores and great performance period.
AMD also recently launched the desktop non K 7000 CPUs and the 12 core 7900 uses the same amount of power as the 8 core 7700 in order to complete the task ~30% faster. This is at default specs. More cores don't necessary mean vay more power and lower efficiency. It's really exhausting to explain 101 things about CPUs on this site, but it is what it is.
The 7945HX will burry any M2 Max in total CPU performance, this is a promise, feel free to get back at me in few months, taking in consideration 7950X's performance in eco mode I have no doubts regarding the fact that the 7945HX will be an outstanding laptop chip.
Great because you absolutely have 0 idea about Ada Lovelace efficiency gain vs Ampere.
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Actually No, it's not inflation it's the storage. Every spec configurator only showed me the 1Tb as available. 512Gb for 3000$ is Bad Joke.
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Perhaps you can help me with some references for the information you’re sharing? Would love an opportunity to read more based on what you’ve seen. It might help me understand what you actually meant not what I thought you meant. Thanks in advance!
LoL. It's obvios whta I meant, there's no point for me to waste my time with trolling.
I’m not trolling I’m genuinely interested in seeing where you’re getting your information from. It shouldn’t be too hard to share references to AMD being the top customer? I must admit when I went looking I found what I shared and couldn’t see anything that related to what you’re sharing but perhaps I’m doing it wrong.
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I’m curious to see what references are behind this, I can’t find any myself but again I could just be looking in the wrong place. I was also mildly curious about the volume stuff as well given Apple ship something like 400 million devices almost entirely with chips they’ve designed themselves and I can’t really find a good number for AMD shipments.
Before the M2, the lineup was:
M1 → M1 Pro → M1 Max → M1 Ultra
M1 Pro was the second lowest level in the hierarchy.
That is ”lower midrange.”
They said high end laptop SoC. As far as the CPU goes, there is nothing higher-end; the Ultra isn’t available and the Max makes no measurable difference for the CPU.
You could in theory. In practice, there’s neither a boot loader nor a device tree, so no, you can’t.
Common sense. Most devices Apple ships that don't have micro-chips are smartphones, smartwatches and tablets.
AMD already got their latest GPU's and CPU's(both consumer and server) on 4/5nm. Once Apple moves their smartphone chips to 3nm AMD will become TSMC's top 4/5nm costumer.
So you stand by "AMD's long term potential in chip volume is higher than Apple's"? What product does AMD make that's higher-volume than smartphones?
I think you're giving too much credit to AMD too soon.
Now, I don't always agree with this reviewer. However, he did a pretty good job here
Providing at least some more context to the debate based on what is "known". And even from what AMD did not say during the keynote. If you're being objective in this. You will see that AMD isn't telling the whole story. And it begs the question as to why they would even show it in the light they did. Again, at best they should have shown the ML/AI to include the M2 and left it at that. I'd have more respect for them if that is what they did. But, they didn't. They put in the M1 Pro and left out both M1/2 in gaming. I'm sure they could have found a game that ran on an M1. Didn't that resident evil game just come out for it? Perfect opportunity to prove the point.
Then maybe you should save your typing for a better conversation on another forum. Just saying.
Microsoft also has to allow the sale (license) on ARM that they don't make.
We are able to get it because they make the OS on the Qualcomm ARM chip. But they don't retail/sell it. If they did, Apple would more than likely bring back boot camp so we could install. Not to mention:
About - Asahi Linux
asahilinux.org
So, it's very doable.
I know. Just been curious on how the OP came to issue that statement
LOL, the clip you posted is a joke, he did a terrible job. The guy thinks that when AMD showed Gaming performance in the launch presentation they were talking about the iGPU. That's nonsense, the top 6000 series APU has like at least 40% iGPU performance in gaming than Intel's iGPU, the new 7000 series iGPU should at least be 40% faster vs 6000 series(some say it should reach double the iGPU performance). The Radeon 680M is 3.379 TFLOPS and that guy thinks the Radeon 780M will be 2.6 TFLOPS. That's a laughable poor analysis.
Also the focus of 7940HS presentation was clearly CPU performance, the 7940HS doesn't need a huge iGPU as it will also be paired with dedicated mobile GPUs.
I'm fully confident I didn't give AMD any credit too soon.
AMD showed the 7940HS the way they did because they are very confident about the performance and efficiency of their little chip. There's no reason to show gaming performance vs the M1 Pro because: 1) There are hardly any AAA games available for ARM Macs 2) An 7940HS laptop with a dedicated GPU will smoke any Apple laptop in gaming anyway and 3) A 7940HS without a dedicated GPU will most likely be cheap enough to be considered M2 Macbook Pro competition and it will smoke it in gaming anyway.
I mean for Christs sake Asus just announced new Ryzen 7940HS ROG Zephyrus G14s, so 14inch laptops, with dedicated mobile RTX 4090s and 4080s GPUs. That will smoke any Macbook in gaming without breaking a sweat.
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Microsoft also has to allow the sale (license) on ARM that they don't make.
We are able to get it because they make the OS on the Qualcomm ARM chip. But they don't retail/sell it. If they did, Apple would more than likely bring back boot camp so we could install. Not to mention:
About - Asahi Linux
So, it's very doable.
Yeah, I know.
Their key point isn’t wrong. The 7940HS burns a lot more power, making the comparison flawed. A U-series chip would be more interesting.