AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

[Fl0r!an]

Nice!

"AMD Radeon R9 xxx" is a hardcoded string in Apples drivers, it will be displayed for every recent AMD card (GCN 1.1+), that's not unusual.

It's already a good sign that the systems reports the full 8GB, this means that AMD9500Controller has successfully loaded & picked up your card!
To enable acceleration (hopefully), you'll have to add the device ID of your RX 480 to the Info.plist in AMDRadeonX4000.kext. I'd try adding it to the "Baffin" section, this has already worked for Fury.
Remember to fix the file permissions when you're done, otherwise the kext won't start up.

Good luck!!

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Hey guys ! I have a RX 480 in hand, tried on my Mac Pro 4,1 (patched 5,1), and the good news is that is starts and don’t give KP, it’s a good start. But bad news is that the fan were spinning super fast and 3D acceleration wasn’t working.
Card was recognized at “AMD Radeon R9 xxx 8192 MB”.
Maybe that’s where the problem is ? Didn’t recognize it was RX but recognized R9 ?
Unless AMD decided to change the name of the Polaris 10 cards, because I saw some places were also thinking the name would be R9 something

Anyway, 10.12 is in early beta still, and card isn’t released yet, so that’s why I said it’s a good sign… we might have working driver when 10.12 comes !



NB : photo is of the card is the one I shot

Does Luxmark see the compute cores?

 

[koyoot]

Not bad.

 

[Stacc]

Not bad.

To be honest I am not very impressed. The leaks so far paint it as slightly better than a gtx 970. Sure its cheaper, but I thought this card would at least beat a 390x at stock clocks. We shall know for sure tomorrow when all the reviews hit.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

To be honest I am not very impressed. The leaks so far paint it as slightly better than a gtx 970. Sure its cheaper, but I thought this card would at least beat a 390x at stock clocks. We shall know for sure tomorrow when all the reviews hit.

390x had very strong compute and a wider bus. AMD was aiming for the mid-high end. The 480 is pure midrange.

 

[koyoot]

CDAction tests compared RX 480 to Zotac GTX 970 which is heavily OC'ed and has 200W power consumption and performance slightly faster than... stock GTX 980.

I will wait for tomorrow reviews, and I still say that this GPU is between GTX 980 and R9 390X.

390x had very strong compute and a wider bus. AMD was aiming for the mid-high end. The 480 is pure midrange.

Well not exactly.

Low-End - GTX 750 Ti.
Mainstream - GTX 960/R9 380
MIdrange - GTX 1080, R9 390X, GTX 980(focus only on placement of the GPUs, not the performance).
High-end - Fury X, Titan X.

RX 480 is aiming at GTX 960 and R9 380 mainstream market. Those are the GPUs that cost between 200 and 300$.

 

[ManuelGomes]

RX 480 performance:

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-gaming-performance-review-leaked/

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-steam-vr-benchmark-most-affordable/

koyoot, leaks from Poland it seems

http://videocardz.com/61512/first-radeon-rx-480-gaming-benchmarks-hit-the-web

Not a football fan (soccer for you US guys, wonder why) but our teams will be playing the day after tomorrow. Sorry, out of context.

And the 1060 is coming soon, NVidia is getting "green" on RX 480?!

Info on SP and DP:

http://videocardz.com/61524/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-8

1/16?
meh
[doublepost=1467154342][/doublepost]http://videocardz.com/61557/rajas-super-secret-cigar-stash

I'm not sure tomorrow it won't be a bit disappointing in some areas.

I find it odd that nowhere GDDR5X is mentioned, much on the contrary :-(
I was sure we had color compression on 480 and here it is...
Lots of goodies as well.
HDR and TrueAudioNext...
[doublepost=1467154413][/doublepost]http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-polaris-10-full-slide-deck-leak/

 

[koyoot]

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=267358&postcount=2265
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=267359&postcount=2266
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=267360&postcount=2267

The architecture has completely Out-of-Order execution of pipeline, secondly it has explicit cult of invisible triangles, thirdly it has power gating that is shutting off unused parts of the GPU. Also the GPUs have proper hardware scheduling which will be important for every DX12 application(VR), or any application that not relies on static scheduling from CPU.

All of this will be 100% part of Vega architecture, with additional new features.

Thats why 32 ROP architecture is capable of achieving the same amount of performance in graphics and much, much better efficiency than previous generation of GPUs(Grenada).

I have to say from architecture perspective for me it is huge surprise.

I still say that for me it is not enough from Compute perspective .

 

[ActionableMango]

explicit cult of invisible triangles

I can't tell if this is a real feature or a line from an 80's sci-fi/horror movie.

 

[AidenShaw]

RX 480 is aiming at GTX 960 and R9 380 mainstream market. Those are the GPUs that cost between 200 and 300$.

So, is ATI explicitly admitting that they can't compete with Nvidia on the higher end?

 

[lowendlinux]

So, is ATI explicitly admitting that they can't compete with Nvidia on the higher end?

No they're releasing as mid range card the beats all the other mid range cards.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

So, is ATI explicitly admitting that they can't compete with Nvidia on the higher end?

I don't know why you say this. At the high end Nvidia has been crippling double precision and OpenCL performance for two years and the only way they have been beating AMD is by ramping up clock speeds. Clock for clock the Geforces have been becoming weaker regardless of power efficiency.

 

[koyoot]

I can't tell if this is a real feature or a line from an 80's sci-fi/horror movie.

Well, autocorrection intervened here, and messed with the message .

Culling of invisible triangles. Thats what it was supposed to be meant .

Edit: https://www.amd4u.com/amdgamepromo/

Nothing really specific, however... look at eligibility list. The promotion ends at the end of this year right? And Radeon RX 490 is eligible, despite the fact that is not released yet.

So, yeah, RX 490 is coming this year. Either full Polaris 10, or... Vega 10 GPU. The fact that Koduri have celebrated completing the Vega 10 design - we can expect Vega rather than Polaris.

Completing the design means, the GPU went out from qualification silicon and production can start ramping up, or, it already sampled up.

Now it gets very interesting in the context of Mac Pro.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

First video review

Not impressive in the first tests but the last tests it matches or beats a GTX980. I need OpenCL tests.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Official reviews out it at the expected 970-980-390 level performance as expected

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/06/amd-rx-480-polaris-review/3/

The question is buy a 1070 or buy dual 480 for the same price.

 

[koyoot]

The reviews are... very strange. Nothing is similar with what I have seen from screens. Every single review is showing 150W power consumption in gaming.

What the hell is happening. Even from analysis of the architecture that should not be the case.

 

[Fl0r!an]

Performance is pretty much what one should have realistically expected after AMDs presentation: Matches 980 performance in Ashes, falls behind in most other benchmarks. As I said a few days ago, it was unrealistic to expect an 1070 killer for just 200$. Value for money is still perfectly fine, beats everything available today.
Didn't see a single OpenCL benchmark yet...

Performance per watt is a joke though, merely better than 2 year old Maxwell on 28nm process...
The 480 seems to exceed 150W on stock clocks(!), pulling up to ~88W from the PCI slot (violating the PCIE spec). Overclockers will have to wait for custom designs with 8pin or 2x6 pin.

 

[koyoot]

Heh, now the truth is: we know why AMD is pushing Vega for October.

AMD did not made a good impression with this GPU. Efficiency is all people are talking about today. 150W for a GPU that is so small is... disappointing to say the least.

2 Choices Apple has really for Mac Pro: GP104-200 or Fiji. Fiji will have higher compute performance and similar performance in graphics.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

OpenCL and computer scores are on Ars Technica. Expected numbers. Very good for the cost but as the Nano is dropping so much in price then maybe previous gen is looking attractive.

 

[koyoot]

And what is even funnier, and sadder at the same time, Nano will perform better and not use huge amount of power(20W more than RX 480).

 

[Stacc]

The RX 480 is very underwhelming. Not only is the performance lackluster, its less efficient than Nvidia's GTX 980. What has AMD been doing this whole time? I wonder if this is because its made by global foundries and not TSMC. Remember how Apples processors performed better with TSMC when they split manufacturing?

In the context of the Mac Pro they would have to underclock(!) this chip to fit it in the current mac pro design. I wonder what Apple will do when it comes time to choosing the next chip. Do they go back hat in hand to Nvidia? Imagine dual gtx 1080s in the mac pro and getting 16-18 TFLOPS. How can Apple not go this direction when the best AMD has to offer is a combined ~10 TFLOPS.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

The RX 480 is very underwhelming. Not only is the performance lackluster, its less efficient than Nvidia's GTX 980.

Similar performance for half the cost. 980 still costs around average 400 dollars in most places.

 

[Stacc]

Similar performance for half the cost. 980 still costs around average 400 dollars in most places.

Very true. The card does well when looking at its value proposition. I was expecting this much but what would have really made the card great would have been better efficiency. Techpowerup complains of loud fans and power/temperature causing a reduction in clocks during heavy loads. Not impressive when AMD has been hyping up the efficiency of Polaris for the last 6 months. At the very least I was expecting AMD to beat the efficiency of 28 nm GPUs.

 

[Malus120]

So much for the $200 GTX 980 killer
Still not a bad showing... just not that exciting either. Bringing the performance/price ratio down by one rank or so is a pretty common tradition at this point so nothing to write home about...

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Very true. The card does well when looking at its value proposition. I was expecting this much but what would have really made the card great would have been better efficiency. Techpowerup complains of loud fans and power/temperature causing a reduction in clocks during heavy loads. Not impressive when AMD has been hyping up the efficiency of Polaris for the last 6 months. At the very least I was expecting AMD to beat the efficiency of 28 nm GPUs.

The important thing about cards like 970 and 480 is it gets people interested in PCs again after the market was getting hurt. Why buy a console when you can get double the performance from a GPU for 200 bucks and then...connect it to any PC or to a laptop with Thunderbolt 3.

If we didn't have AMD making this possible for so cheap then it makes development and VR really slow.

At Async compute even this cheap card is playing in 980Ti territory.