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AMD Ryzen 4700U leaked! 8 cores and 15W!

iPhonagain said:
I would Love to see an AMD powered Mac or MacBook ! Lower heat and more cores for less, yes please..
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I don't understand this view. What makes you think this would be a benefit for the MBP line? Geuinely curious since everything I've seen seems to indicate worse performance, battery life, disk read/write speeds, and Wifi / bluetooth performance.

The AMD Ryzen 7 in the Surface laptop (15w range of chips) gets beat pretty handily by the equivalent Intel i7 in almost every category outside of GPU. Even disk speed takes a significant hit. I love AMD for desktop, I've got multiple Threadripper and Epyc linux servers for research/work but AMD just isn't there for laptops from all real-world testing.
 
seangrimes590 said:
I don't understand this view. What makes you think this would be a benefit for the MBP line? Geuinely curious since everything I've seen seems to indicate worse performance, battery life, disk read/write speeds, and Wifi / bluetooth performance.

The AMD Ryzen 7 in the Surface laptop (15w range of chips) gets beat pretty handily by the equivalent Intel i7 in almost every category outside of GPU. Even disk speed takes a significant hit. I love AMD for desktop, I've got multiple Threadripper and Epyc linux servers for research/work but AMD just isn't there for laptops from all real-world testing.
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Ryzen APU is using 12nm which is an enhanced version of 14nm. Be aware TSMC 7nm = Intel 10nm.

Also, unlike Intel CPU, APU has both CPU and GPU altogether. Battery life is the biggest problem so far and we will see once APU gets 7nm versions.
 
seangrimes590 said:
I don't understand this view. What makes you think this would be a benefit for the MBP line? Geuinely curious since everything I've seen seems to indicate worse performance, battery life, disk read/write speeds, and Wifi / bluetooth performance.
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This forum is full of people who complain about not having a “professional” computer and at the same time complain about the computer making too much noise and heat.
 
impulse462 said:
This forum is full of people who complain about not having a “professional” computer and at the same time complain about the computer making too much noise and heat.
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well yeah if we are paying over $3000 it better bend the laws of physics and raise my kids too
 
impulse462 said:
This forum is full of people who complain about not having a “professional” computer and at the same time complain about the computer making too much noise and heat.
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Yeah, I'm one of them. I feel you're presenting a false choice. PC makers (see XPS 17, Razor Blade Pro, etc) offer "pro" performance without fans at 4500rpm and my cpu's hitting 80C because I launched Firefox while connected to an external monitor ... or from simply making a dodge layer in PS. Why does the 16" MBP heat jump 10C just because I connected an external monitor? Two years ago, Apple throttled the processors...and now they've stopped doing that but gave us a new set of horrible compromises. Apple could make a choice to add a little bit of thickness and give us "pro" performance without these awful tradeoffs...but no...oh the horror !!! ... we added .20 inches of thickness. <eyeroll>

Apple simply refuses to do what is required to provide a laptop that approaches desktop performance. They seem to always find a way to f it up.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm done with Apple and high end laptops. The iMac is a solid machine. The new 13" MBP and MBA are both very solid machines for their designed purpose. Apple does not currently know how to create a laptop based on a powerful cpu / gpu. And their arrogance won't allow them to change course....and "think different".
 
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BootLoxes said:
well yeah if we are paying over $3000 it better bend the laws of physics and raise my kids too
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I spent $3400 on my 16" MBP. I'm not expecting sexual favors from the machine..but I do expect for it, to not sound like a 747 taking off when I connect an external monitor...making it un-useable for audio recording environments. I expect for the machine to not have kernal_tasks that lock up my machine..with lost work...because I decided to download a video. I expect for the machine to not ramp up cpu temps an additional 10C from already high idle temps with fans to 3800/4200rpm ... because I launched a browser. Call me crazy.
 
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Yeah, I'm one of them. I feel you're presenting a false choice. PC makers (see XPS 17, Razor Blade Pro, etc) offer "pro" performance without fans at 4500rpm and my cpu's hitting 80C because I launched Firefox while connected to an external monitor ... or from simply making a dodge layer in PS. Why does the 16" MBP heat jump 10C just because I connected an external monitor? Two years ago, Apple throttled the processors...and now they've stopped doing that but gave us a new set of horrible compromises. Apple could make a choice to add a little bit of thickness and give us "pro" performance without these awful tradeoffs...but no...oh the horror !!! ... we added .20 inches of thickness. <eyeroll>

Apple simply refuses to do what is required to provide a laptop that approaches desktop performance. They seem to always find a way to f it up.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm done with Apple and high end laptops. The iMac is a solid machine. The new 13" MBP and MBA are both very solid machines for their designed purpose. Apple does not currently know how to create a laptop based on a powerful cpu / gpu. And their arrogance won't allow them to change course....and "think different".
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I was speaking more in general. This GPU wattage problem when connected to an external display is a bug that needs to be fixed I agree.
 
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