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Amid Apple Campus 2 Cost Concerns, Foster + Partners Reportedly Taking on Apple Retail Store Projects
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1. This is not technically a circle; it's a torus or ring.
2. If you're on the third floor and need to get to the third floor on the opposite side, you step out onto the balcony, jump on your hoverboard, and hoverscoot to the other balcony. So long as there is no water underneath you, because then you need more power.
1. This is not technically a circle; it's a torus or ring.
2. If you're on the third floor and need to get to the third floor on the opposite side, you step out onto the balcony, jump on your hoverboard, and hoverscoot to the other balcony. So long as there is no water underneath you, because then you need more power.
See? That's why there are cost overruns. The hoverboards cost more than originally planned.
I heard they're investigating a network of solar powered gondola's.
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Yes and no. Not all share are giving back money. You can speculate with it and earn money once the share is higher. Which was the base until the shareholders -own it all- arrived ...
For all we know, Tim could have cancelled the spaceship campus this morning.
LOL - some posts have no need for a sarcasm tag or emoticon.
I don't remotely understand your response
Might you try stating it another way?
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with £140Bn in the bank could someone define 'cost concern' for me.
The bigger issue is the lack of execution - an issue that appears to be growing at Apple.
And Einstein said that in this curved universe we live in an infinite line returns to the origin...I think. So, even your straight line is, in reality, curved.
So much for that "straight line" theory...
Siri-ously though, the building is SO huge that I doubt very much people would have the need to walk from one end of it to the other. Likely you'd be walking more commonly in your area of work throughout the day. It's HUGE and has many floors. So I doubt VERY much you'd have to get to the four quadrant points several times a day for different meetings...
You're probably very wrong about that. Another architect chiming in here, albeit three days late, -- the number one issue when designing a building with such a ridiculously large program like this is the potential for cave-like spaces in the interior of the building. Light usually penetrates no more than 50 feet into a building. In order to fit the needed square footage into a single rectnagular building of this size, I'd imagine the floor-plate would be at least 200+ feet wide. So more than half of the building would receive no daylight, leading to spaces that are not only horrible to be in, but also unsustainable due to greater heating/cooling/lighting costs. (Not to mention the hierarchy it would place on employees' worth -- which lucky few get the windows? Everyone else gets caves?)
The ring design doubles the amount of windows, and because half of them are shaded by the park in the center, that reduces heat gain while allowing more light in, dramatically reducing energy use. The other option would be to split the building into nodes or separate structure, but I imagine the goal of the design was to create a unified image for Apple.
Also keep in mind that in a building this huge, the program is more than likely going to be designed as self-sufficient modules anyway so that each part has its own common areas, restrooms, offices, etc., and you would rarely need to walk to the other side anyway. To suggest that one of the most well-known architects in the world would base an entire design concept off "just aesthetics" would be ludicrous.
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A circle (i.e. domed building) or a RING? There's a huge difference. And there's something called the outdoors that isn't desirable in a building plan to get around, particularly on bad weather days.
The shortest distance between two points in space (ignoring the curvature of space since it's pretty much irrelevant to the discussion) is a straight line even if that line is inside a circle. But being forced to walk in a large circle around the perimeter of a large building to avoid rain, etc. is waste of time when you could fit the same amount of space contained within the RING (usable portion of the building) in a MUCH MUCH smaller space, particularly if you used multiple floors (whether a dome or even a cube). You can have any number of walkways inside a building to make it simple to get around rooms, etc. and lifts (aka elevators) make it simple to move up and down.
If what you said were true, ALL buildings in the world would be rings. They're not rings for a reason. They WASTE SPACE.
Ever hear of the outdoors? There something outside called WEATHER. What you and some others are suggesting is that people should walk some huge distance out in the rain/wind/snow/whatever around a bunch of freaking trees and uneven ground to shortcut rather than building a nice compact building that is all indoors. Yeah. That's WAY better. NOT.
If this were a dome, I might be more agreeable, but it's a RING and that means there is no indoor way to take the shortest path. Furthermore, a properly designed circular building would have the hub at the center. Here, we have TREES at the center and NOTHING in the way the offices, etc. in that entire inner circle diameter (i.e. wasted space). Thus, you are forced to walk the LONG way around the perimeter to get anywhere indoors. That is STUPID no matter how you look at it.
As for those that love trees, so what? I hate them around my house. They cause trouble (leaves falling everywhere; roots getting into the foundation and around drains and creating uneven ground, etc.) You could have an atrium or even a greenhouse in the center of the building for a garden, etc. There is no need to create a $5 BILLION building where a $500 million building would do better.
Ah someone who gets it.
Apple is also very secretive and the LAST thing they want is unauthorized "collaborations" between employees at different levels, etc. just because they "bump into each other". Most businesses also have meetings, etc. and something called lunch and that often involves travel. A centralized cafeteria would make sense as would a set of meeting rooms around that ares towards the center of the wheel. But here, they put TREES there instead.... (face palm)
So they're all going to go outside into the wilderness and smoke weed or something? I see no meeting areas outside. I see nothing but trees outside. I see bad weather causing massive travel delays by forcing a walk around the ring. I see that a wagon wheel spoke design with a centralized meeting area, cafeteria and atrium would be 100x better than a RING with a forest in the middle. Well thought out design my arse. It's freaking STUPID.
Well I'm glad people think they know better about building design than one of the most notable architwcts in the world. You should think beyond walking distances. Just posted a huge response above about the benefits of a ring design....
WTF is an architwct?
Seriously, commenting on knowing better and then posting such a basic word check error looks kind of bad. The only benefit I see with a ring design is the cost, at over $5 BILLION and rising. What a WASTE of resources. It's too bad Apple didn't put that much money into the next Mac Pro. We could have had a new one redesigned every single quarter instead of nearly five years and counting.
As for your natural light comment, there are simple ways around that these days using optical fiber cables. Personally, I find natural light overrated. In fact, I've gone to great lengths to eliminate it in my house in favor of controlled lighting (e.g. sunlight is the enemy of home theater).
Yeah, seriously that is one erroneous comment since the entire idea of a wormhole is to create a STRAIGHT LINE to get around the longer distance of that curved space. Thus, even Einstein would have said FAIL.