AmpliFi Instant Mesh Router Launches With Quick 2 Minute Setup, Starting at $100

[tongefactor40]

I am still on an AirPort Extreme but with my 1g fiber connection I don’t come close to maxing our speeds on wireless. Extreme pass through wired I get around 750mb down, but wireless is around 270 down.

Does anyone have AmpliFi with a 1g connection? What kind of download speeds are you getting?

 

[EdT]

I’m not even sure what this means.

Your credit can be damaged via leaked information, you can not get a job because information-either true or not-is associated with you online, you may have trouble getting insurance .... all of these instances may not cost you physical dollars ( but then again they may also cost you money) but they will affect your economics for years to come. And you may never find out what or where the reasons are for problems you can’t seem to isolate.

 

[iapplelove]

Point I believe is that Google can sell its routers for less $$ in exchange for (potential) access to data and information about your browsing habits, which has value to Google.

(I don't know what privacy one gives up with google routers - just trying to describe the point I believe being made).

Ohh I gotcha now and that may be possible. However Google WiFi was more expensive at one time, but has been on the market a bit now.

 

[shareef777]

It’s only cheap if you don’t value privacy at all.

They bill you $250 for the mesh system. If you're referring to their other "free" products, then there's no one to blame but the person you see in the mirror. Or did you genuinely think Google's business model was to just hand stuff out at no charge?

 

[iapplelove]

Your credit can be damaged via leaked information, you can not get a job because information-either true or not-is associated with you online, you may have trouble getting insurance .... all of these instances may not cost you physical dollars ( but then again they may also cost you money) but they will affect your economics for years to come. And you may never find out what or where the reasons are for problems you can’t seem to isolate.

lmao have you heard of the equifax hack?

And you’re worried about google really?

Besides my credit is frozen, just updated my pin with Experian too..

Run my credit report once a year and I’m clean.

Google WiFi has been on the market for years now all outstanding reviews. But thanks for the concerns !

 

[shareef777]

Your credit can be damaged via leaked information, you can not get a job because information-either true or not-is associated with you online, you may have trouble getting insurance .... all of these instances may not cost you physical dollars ( but then again they may also cost you money) but they will affect your economics for years to come. And you may never find out what or where the reasons are for problems you can’t seem to isolate.

I use Ubiquitis enterprise level hardware at my home (spent thousands on USG, UniFi/Edge switches and APs, etc) and all that does absolutely nothing for anyone if they enter their credit card info on a non-secured site on my network. You simply can't protect stupid, and blaming Google because they're Google doesn't help educate anyone.

 

[macduke]

I’m gonna pass on this WiFi 5 stuff and wait until WiFi 6 products launch early next year. I already have gigabit in my neighborhood so I need to futureproof. I like to buy nice systems that last me 5-6 years until the next WiFi version.

 

[cmaier]

Does Amplifi? I thought these are all wireless backhaul with no option to use an existing wired network for that. Only thing holding me back . . .

ETA: Answered my own question - AmpliFi does now appear to support ethernet backhaul.

https://help.amplifi.com/hc/en-us/articles/115006826048-Ethernet-Wired-Backhaul-How-To

In my house I have the main router with hard wired backhaul to two other amplifi cubes. Then I use two more cubes with wireless backhaul. It’s worked that way for many months.

 

[street.cory]

The only thing I don’t like about the AMPLIFI mesh kit I purchased is that the extenders are hard coded to the base station. This makes me wonder what I’d do if my base station ever fails.

 

[oneMadRssn]

I’m not even sure what this means.

The reason Google WiFi is so cheap is because you pay for it in both dollars and data.

I use Gmail. I don't pay Google for Gmail, but Google still makes a profit off me. It's a nice little exchange, I get arguably the best webmail client there is for no dollar cost; and Google gets to mine all my emails for data, which they collect into a comprehensive profile of my interests, demographics, and habits; which Google sells to advertisers. In this case, I find the exchange to be worth it.

Google does the same with Google WiFi. Sure they're probably selling the hardware at cost or even a small loss, but you still pay for it with your data. You may think it's worth it, like I think it's worth it for Gmail. But make no mistake - we are still paying with our data.

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

 

[RobbieTT]

I am a Ubiquiti user for my switch and router but use 4 Apple AirPorts as APs - all bought secondhand or for spares & repairs. They were cheap or free and have been rock solid for years.

Yet upgrading to these new units would see me drop from a 3x3 (1300mbpsj to just a 2x2. I know a lot of non-Apple clients only use 2x2 but Apple clients do fully utilise 3x3 and stepping backwards in performance does not appeal to me.

 

[EdT]

The reason Google WiFi is so cheap is because you pay for it in both dollars and data.

I use Gmail. I don't pay Google for Gmail, but Google still makes a profit off me. It's a nice little exchange, I get arguably the best webmail client there is for no dollar cost; and Google gets to mine all my emails for data, which they collect into a comprehensive profile of my interests, demographics, and habits; which Google sells to advertisers. In this case, I find the exchange to be worth it.

Google does the same with Google WiFi. Sure they're probably selling the hardware at cost or even a small loss, but you still pay for it with your data. You may think it's worth it, like I think it's worth it for Gmail. But make no mistake - we are still paying with our data.

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

I’m not as sanguine about the consequences as you but this is a very good quick explanation of Google, Amazon and other sites and products that are “free” or very low cost.

 

[iapplelove]

The reason Google WiFi is so cheap is because you pay for it in both dollars and data.

I use Gmail. I don't pay Google for Gmail, but Google still makes a profit off me. It's a nice little exchange, I get arguably the best webmail client there is for no dollar cost; and Google gets to mine all my emails for data, which they collect into a comprehensive profile of my interests, demographics, and habits; which Google sells to advertisers. In this case, I find the exchange to be worth it.

Google does the same with Google WiFi. Sure they're probably selling the hardware at cost or even a small loss, but you still pay for it with your data. You may think it's worth it, like I think it's worth it for Gmail. But make no mistake - we are still paying with our data.

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

Again, google WiFi wasn’t always the “cheapest” mesh system.

It’s just been out the longest, and has the best most consistent reviews.

And it’s not like it’s cheap or free lol it still is 259.99 not much cheaper than the velop.

Although I do somewhat agree to some of your points and trust me it’s nothing I didn’t already know...

But with all the hacks in the past including equifax, I’m not worried in the least for using google WiFi.

Not in the least.

 

[oneMadRssn]

Again, google WiFi wasn’t always the “cheapest” mesh system.

It’s just been out the longest, and has the best most consistent reviews.

And it’s not like it’s cheap or free lol it still is 259.99 not much cheaper than the velop.

Although I do somewhat agree to some of your points and trust me it’s nothing I didn’t already know...

But with all the hacks in the past including equifax, I’m not worried in the least for using google WiFi.

Not in the least.

That's fine - my post wasn't meant to get people to worry about Google. Creepy as they are, their products are actually so good that the creepiness might be worth it. Certainly lots of people think it's worth it. And you did say "It’s so cheap too for what you get."

I just hope people go into these kinds of products (Amazon, Google, etc.) with eyes wide open. I want people to know that when they get a piece of tech for a very low cost, they might be paying for it on other ways. It's only a bad thing if they don't know they're doing it.

 

[iapplelove]

That's fine - my post wasn't meant to get people to worry about Google. Creepy as they are, their products are actually so good that the creepiness might be worth it. Certainly lots of people think it's worth it. And you did say "It’s so cheap too for what you get."

I just hope people go into these kinds of products (Amazon, Google, etc.) with eyes wide open. I want people to know that when they get a piece of tech for a very low cost, they might be paying for it on other ways. It's only a bad thing if they don't know they're doing it.

I meant cheap as in vs the competition and for what you get it’s a very good value.

But I wouldn’t consider 259.99 plus tax plus another 99.99 for a 4th node cheap I guess. I dunno..

After lasts years equifax hack I don’t get as worried as I use too..

I use google services every day, google, hangouts, gmail as my main email youtube etc...

So I’m already screwed according to your logic.

 

[oneMadRssn]

I meant cheap as in vs the competition and for what you get it’s a very good value.

But I wouldn’t consider 259.99 plus tax plus another 99.99 for a 4th node cheap I guess. I dunno..

After lasts years equifax hack I don’t get as worried as I use too..

I use google services every day, google, hangouts, gmail as my main email youtube etc...

So I’m already screwed according to your logic.

When did I say anyone is screwed? You chose to pay for good stuff with your data - as long as you made the choice knowingly and willingly, nothing is wrong with that.

 

[1rottenapple]

Doesn’t bother me in the least. And it’s not even the best bang for the buck for those reasons, it’s just been out the longest.

Honestly gmail, google photos, google music, nest, are awesome products. I’ve traded my privacy I guess. But I also use different accounts. Like my nest uses a different account, YouTube is different, etc...
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The reason Google WiFi is so cheap is because you pay for it in both dollars and data.

I use Gmail. I don't pay Google for Gmail, but Google still makes a profit off me. It's a nice little exchange, I get arguably the best webmail client there is for no dollar cost; and Google gets to mine all my emails for data, which they collect into a comprehensive profile of my interests, demographics, and habits; which Google sells to advertisers. In this case, I find the exchange to be worth it.

Google does the same with Google WiFi. Sure they're probably selling the hardware at cost or even a small loss, but you still pay for it with your data. You may think it's worth it, like I think it's worth it for Gmail. But make no mistake - we are still paying with our data.

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

And it’s relevant information. For example I was searching for a specific cars and got goggle news about Alfa romeo. I think that’s pretty cool when I get served information that’s of my interest.

 

[iConnected]

No mention of WPA3 support as far as I can see (including in the support section of their website).

 

[Keane16]

LOL, why would you catch heat for using a superior product? Apple isn't the best anymore at making anything. You're fine dude.

Agree with networking. But IMHO:

• Best smartphone screen - there or thereabouts.
• Best Smartphone camera - there or thereabouts.
• Best mobile SoC - no question.
• Best smartwatch - there or thereabouts.
• Best smartphone - there or thereabouts.
  
• Best tablet - no question.

Etc, etc.

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I really like AmpliFi kit, looking forward to detailed reviews of the Instant. The HD offers ridiculous performance, although it's not the best looking setup in the the space. This looks much more consumer orientated, hopefully the performance hasn't been gimped.

 

[Le Big Mac]

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

Slightly different - Amazon makes the Echo cheap so that you'll do more purchasing through Amazon.
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Yet upgrading to these new units would see me drop from a 3x3 (1300mbpsj to just a 2x2. I know a lot of non-Apple clients only use 2x2 but Apple clients do fully utilise 3x3 and stepping backwards in performance does not appeal to me.

It looks like the original Amplifi is 3x3; this (less expensive) version is 2x2.

 

[apolloa]

The reason Google WiFi is so cheap is because you pay for it in both dollars and data.

I use Gmail. I don't pay Google for Gmail, but Google still makes a profit off me. It's a nice little exchange, I get arguably the best webmail client there is for no dollar cost; and Google gets to mine all my emails for data, which they collect into a comprehensive profile of my interests, demographics, and habits; which Google sells to advertisers. In this case, I find the exchange to be worth it.

Google does the same with Google WiFi. Sure they're probably selling the hardware at cost or even a small loss, but you still pay for it with your data. You may think it's worth it, like I think it's worth it for Gmail. But make no mistake - we are still paying with our data.

Google isn't the only one. It's the same reason the Amazon Echo is so cheap.

Wrong actually, you can control what google does or doesn’t collect from you in the options, and Amazon doesn’t collect your data from the echo, it doesn’t have some secret underground bunker studded full of servers recording everything anyone ever says to its devices!
Amazon uses it devices to sell you IT’S services, not others and not advertising, I mean Amazon does make the majority of its profits from selling you goods you know..

 

[oneMadRssn]

Wrong actually, you can control what google does or doesn’t collect from you in the options, and Amazon doesn’t collect your data from the echo, it doesn’t have some secret underground bunker studded full of servers recording everything anyone ever says to its devices!
Amazon uses it devices to sell you IT’S services, not others and not advertising, I mean Amazon does make the majority of its profits from selling you goods you know..

You're right that the servers aren't underground, but Amazon actually does keep a recording of every echo command ever said, AND 30 seconds before the trigger command. This was revealed in a criminal case actually, where Amazon was subpoenaed to get those recordings of what the defendant said that the echo recorded. Amazon keeps all this for later analysis to improve the voice recognition and whatever else they want.

 

[apolloa]

You're right that the servers aren't underground, but Amazon actually does keep a recording of every echo command ever said, AND 30 seconds before the trigger command. This was revealed in a criminal case actually, where Amazon was subpoenaed to get those recordings of what the defendant said that the echo recorded. Amazon keeps all this for later analysis to improve the voice recognition and whatever else they want.

I was not referring to that, it’s well documented and an OPTION to have Alexa record the commands you say, because it uses that to become a better AI, it’s how AI works and why Siri is crap, an AI needs to learn to be better, as ASR’s red by Amazon and Google when you sign up to their services.

From your article you quoted:

Police and prosecutors generally don’t expect much evidence from Echo recordings — if any — because Echo speakers are activated with a wake word — usually “Alexa,” the name of the voice assistant.

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What I refer to is the idiots who claim Alexa is PERMANENTLY recording everything it hears regardless if you activate it with the keyword and their are those who do...

You have it totally wrong on Amazon like many conspiracy theorists do, they want to sell you their services and for you to shop from them.

Anyway this has nothing to do with the thread and I won’t reply any further in the topic, a MOD will only delete MY posts and ban me.