even in your niche example, how does it matter? It is a streaming box.
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Luckily I just want to stream video from the internet I guess. Otherwise I would end up angry at Apple like you.
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Works seamlesslly (simpatico) with iphone, airpods and Homepod. Homepod provides wireless tv speaker and hands-free playback controls. Airpods auto connect if last used with ATV or just have to 1-press Home button on remote to connect. iPHone popup when searching or entering passwords/logins including access to saved passwords/logins. Also remote app that loads in a half second.
New remote is well received. I use the old (not too liked) remote with the new ATV myself but ...
Fastest box than anything on the market. The market in my world is Roku, Amazon, and Google plus built-in streaming UIs from LG and Samsung.
Responsiveness. Multi-tasking. Fluid. Well organized/easy access settings. And no ads. That's the gist of the slick UI off the top of my head.
IF one dislikes the Apple UI then they don't get an AppleTV...it's pretty simple. If I don't like the dishwasher's controls I don't buy the dishwasher.
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Are you referring to the old remote? The remote that’s shipped with the aTV for years now isnt controversial at all, it was pretty universally hailed as great when it was released.
LIke how? The gist is the same. Icon grid and settings options. The settings stuff has gotten easier. The only thing I think got worse is I used to be able to just hold the home button for 1 second to power off. Then it was like hold and press. And now it's hold, move and press? ...although the new remote has a power button which is 1 press. I forget. I use the old remote on a new apple tv.
The ATV+, ATV next up list, ...that stuff is still searching for nirvana. Not sure it's worse. IT never was great. I don't use it. I know what is on the 5-6 apps I mainly use. And often access last played or 'My List' on each app.
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Dont know what to tell you, my dude, the aTV isnt aimed at folks who want to tinker with it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. This is like complaining that your braun coffee maker isnt as tinkerable as your chemistry stand pour over kit. Both are gonna produce great coffee, one is for tinkerers, one is an appliance.
There’s plenty of other options out there, all the way from android options of various sorts to htpcs to using an rPI to etc. The aTV isnt for you, that doesnt mean its bad at what it’s supposed to be
What, exactly, is limiting you? In the same vein I have a 10gbe network in my house but the gige port on the aTV doesnt bug me, I dont need that much speed for the device, the same would be true of wireless, what are you doing with the aTV that requires an extreme level of bandwidth? Do you actually have a use case it’s hampering or are you just spec chasing?
I use it for local "streaming," the faster the better. Also multiple camera feeds @ 4k with some picture-in-picture live broadcasts from another box on my network. It also does some lightweight automation tasks. About the only thing I don't do is Internet streaming but trust me, I need the bandwidth.
You make some bold assumptions based on nothing.
Edit: doing some fun stuff with homegrown apps over here. I don't need anything over 5Gb but 1 is easy to saturate. I'd love some developer edition with an SFP+ port
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you got the wrong tool for the job. it's an internet streaming box first and foremost. the one thing you don't use it for.
My bold assumption was what? ASsuming you were going to give me a bunch of local network 'hardcore' type use cases? YOu're a niche case for this thing. And I was right.
Having the latest wifi standard for this is a nothing burger for its market. It just doesn't matter.
The latest wifi standard isn't really any faster than the previous 2 either.
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Seems very likely A17 Pro based with 8 GB RAM, look forward to the GPU improvements along with AV1 hardware decoding for YouTube. Always like each processor update as you can see navigating apps improved. Expect latest HDMI support.
ATV certainly isn't perfect, but use cases like web browsing and access to the file system in a Finder-like way (I think that's what you mean?) are totally niche use cases that 99.9% of the existing ATV base would never use, even if both you and I would like to see it. Finder-like file system access has never been present on iPhones and iPads and it certainly hasn't hurt those at all. And have you ever done web browsing on a TV? It's a terrible experience regardless of what computer you use. I tried doing that for a bit with a Mac Mini, and quickly found that TVs mounted/located where TVs are normally located are just fundamentally problematic for web browsing where reading lots of text is one of the primary things one does.
Yup, and hell, it’s fine for local too at current networking options, I use infuse a lot in conjunction with my fileserver, lots of folks run plex… the op of this set of replies is utterly niche and would be better off with a Mac mini and xcode’s simulator on their tv
It is possible to do some/most of this already – I have a HomePod in the same room (physically located, as well as with regards to the 'Home' app – and can say "Siri, Pause" or "Siri, Play" when tv is playing something and it generally works as expected.
Oh yes... certainly. RAM, internal storage and slower SoC were very limiting. When I got the first ChromeCast, I could not believe that it had such a slow wifi. Could not use it for playback SD video from the network. My older Linux satellite receiver did a better job in HD. Briefly tried the ChromeCast Ultra, but that same year I also got the ATV 4K 2017. More RAM, more internal storage and faster CPU/GPU. I'm impressed that it stil works so smoothly after almost +7 years.
I'm sure you're right. Never heard that fan kick in though. The casing and cabinet shelf it sits on never warms up to the extreme. Of course, it all depends on humidity, ambient temperature, draft and so on.
The new Mac mini M4 could be a nice candidate. Must say I got to that same point years ago - a Mac mini is indeed the most configurable. Mac used to have "Front Row". I got my Mac mini 2009 with a IR remote, that made it a bit more TV friendly. But after a while it took to much effort to make and keep it easy for every day use (shortcuts, scripts, key mapping). Just turning off the TV and set the mini in sleep mode at the same time with one button couldn't be done without hardware tweaks. That alone still seems to be a problem today when I look over at Reddit. After a while I kept the mini as a server for many tasks, including for movies I could play on my Linux satellite box.
Two feature requests that already exist for other Apple devices: 1) Support for high-res lossless audio output, 2) Support for 4K 120Hz video output.
Unifi 5G Pro at max bitrate is 16 Mbps.
Bitrate for BD rips max out at around 100 Mbps.
You can stream a BD rip and 50 4K cameras and still have 100 Mbps for overhead. I wonder if something besides bandwidth is the limiting factor.
I find the YT app awful on TViOS, but thats probably down to YT.
