Why the form factor? There are not too many options left. A 5" phone should all apple needs
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Why the form factor? There are not too many options left. A 5" phone should all apple needs
Rog, what on earth are you talking about, bud?
Looking ... oh, I see. The quote said the engineers had to go up to the "boardroom" and explain the facts of radio transmission to Jobs and Ive.
Obviously he didn't mean showing it to the Apple board. He just meant a main conference room. It's a common speech phrase, and the only people in the room would've been them.
Samedung or shamedung, they're evil... Even when they have to pay 1billion dollars for stealing and copying, that's 1/4th the cost of apple's original research.
Some people's definition of "innovation" is throwing a ton of useless, half-baked features against a wall to see what sticks. I like Apple's approach slow and steady refinement with one or two new things rather than something completely new every year.
A new form factor is fine, but only if it makes sense and in some way enhances the end user experience.
Not exactly.
The core of Android OS (linux, Java app environment) had (and has) the flexibility to adapt.
But the UI API and other application-level OS services were way, way behind.
Google threw a lot or resources at it to catch up to iOS.
An impressive feat, IMO. Throwing a lot of resources at something is easy for a company of Google's size, but doing so for a software product and actually getting a good result is not. Not to mention that Apple was not exactly standing still after iOS 1.0 came out either.
I don't think any experienced software developers at Google saw the iPhone and thought, "oh, that's no problem." It was a big change to catch iOS with significant risk of failure if not done really well.
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Classic!
Congrats on the Mac Pro by the way. I am still waiting for the benches. Not that I really want to leave the Apple desktop ecosystem though, or give up on Thunderbolt, which I don't think is in any PC workstations from Dell or HP just yet.
I would add the whole Antennae gate thing as well, but over all I'd agree with the article. The first version of the iPhone had hella problems . . . in it's defense it was a complete Rev A product.
They were around and doing well. My first 2 cell phones in 1998 and 2001 were Samsungs. Actually my first 3 phones. My first smart phone was a Palm in 2005. The first smart phone I ever saw was a palm treo 300 in 2000. Smart phones were around and catching on before the iPhone. However the iPhone set the smart phone market on fire and spurred innovation.
Apple "borrowed" ideas from palm and htc phones. Big deal!
What's the distinguishing factor between the Google, iOS, and Palm OS GUI?
Or the Newton OS? (other than color)
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Ok that I can maybe buy. But to believe it we have to believe then that Steve Jobs was pretty ignorant about technology. Unless this is something only a top level engineer would know about.
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Not the way Walter Isaacson reported it, no.
The iPhone 5S has more MFLOPS than all the supercomputers in the world put together had in 1969.
What could really be changed beside the screen size? There's only so many form factors you can have with a smartphone. Hence Why they all basically look the same.
I think the difference in recollections may have more to do with politics/allegiance than whether that person was working on hardware or software. If I was working at Google and asked that same question, I may not have been forthright due to potential legal implications for the company. Also, there's an element of pride for some; nobody wants to admit that they weren't as good and merely made a poor copy of someone else's work.
The original iPhone was a revolution. I got my first and only iPhone with the 3GS and I loved it for years. Then the OS started getting stale and now I prefer Android (plus bigger screens). iOS 7 helped but its still no Android. My next phone after the SIII will be a Nexus.
Precisely. As a former Symbian user I can't describe the difference in usability and eventually the level of apps that were possible on iOS compared to Symbian, not to mention iOS really changed the usage pattern too.
Wondering when you'd chime in.
I remember posting Samsung software that was an obvious copy of Apple's Xcode. Him and others started to claim every IDE looked the same, I thought it was really hilarious to some people anything Apple does is insignificant but others copying Apple is never a copy job but a natural extension of previous work.
unfortunately too many people on these forums.
its gotten better, but there are still alot of users who attribute the entire Smartphone to Apple, completely failing to even know, thorugh sheer ignorance that the smartphone, touchscreen devices, mobile internet, media syncing phones that could also play multimedia did exist prior to the iphone.
there are enough people who outright believe "Apple invented the smartphone", and every technology used in it.
it boggles my mind. Again, not discrediting apple for the ability to take hundreds of different technologies that either existed, or needed slight tweaking, and put them together into a very attractive package.
That was the primary thing behind the iPhones first success... it was one of the nicest LOOKING devices.
remember, the first iPhone itself was more akin to a fancy feature phone. for the first little while it was incapable of having apps. There was no app store. what you had shipped on your phone was only what oyu could run on your phone.
Palm, Microsoft and Blackberry were all ahead of Apple in this particular field early on having the capability of 3rd party software from being loaded onto their devices.
So what's the next big thing? I'm not talking about iWatch either. I feel like that is just going to be an extension of iPhone and iOS in general. I mean, what is the next technological breakthrough? What is after multitouch? Neurological software interfaces?
That makes me wonder, and this gets a little off-topic...
If neurological interfaces happen people won't have to talk any more or even leave their house. Technology-assisted ESP. Instead of the NSA reading your email they will read your mind and maybe even charge you for any past crimes. Jaywalking 537 times. Illegal parking 211 times. Speeding 987 times. Trespassing 17 times. Lying on tax forms 4 times. Failure to yield to a U-turn 19 times. Forgetting to use turn signal 192 times. And those are just the more minor offenses that most people have done. Just think back about what some of you did in college, even if it was 20-30 years ago. Yep.
I'm going to be the crotchety old man in 2057 still clinging to the last iPad they made (the one that folds up like paper into your pocket), trying to keep it going on an old fallback 7G network, while all my grandkids extoll the virtues of Skynet or whatever they end up calling it and keep telling me I'm so out of touch. Except they probably won't be able to communicate with me as they've never used their voice box. Oh the future!
That makes me wonder, and this gets a little off-topic...
If neurological interfaces happen people won't have to talk any more or even leave their house. Technology-assisted ESP. Instead of the NSA reading your email they will read your mind and maybe even charge you for any past crimes. Jaywalking 537 times. Illegal parking 211 times. Speeding 987 times. Trespassing 17 times. Lying on tax forms 4 times. Failure to yield to a U-turn 19 times. Forgetting to use turn signal 192 times. And those are just the more minor offenses that most people have done. Just think back about what some of you did in college, even if it was 20-30 years ago. Yep.
I'm going to be the crotchety old man in 2057 still clinging to the last iPad they made (the one that folds up like paper into your pocket), trying to keep it going on an old fallback 7G network, while all my grandkids extoll the virtues of Skynet or whatever they end up calling it and keep telling me I'm so out of touch. Except they probably won't be able to communicate with me as they've never used their voice box. Oh the future!
Yeah. Hilarious. I cracked a rib.
Well it looks so pathetic. Just think though if there had been no iPhone, we would probably still be using something similar to what is in that picture.
Here's the thing - it is impossible to achieve what Android did in a short time without having most pieces in place already - technically and vision wise. Remember 2 other companies with massive resources and prior experience - Microsoft and RIM have still not managed to do the catch up in a successful way.
The reality is that Google's vision of Android was already grand and in place. They were already betting on diversity of devices - with and without keyboards, with different screen sizes, from different manufacturers with different CPU architectures, with and without touch screens. The problem for them was they weren't sure if touch screen only devices thrown at the market would fly - that as the article points out was opposed to conventional wisdom back then. So they were prepared for both type of devices - BB style and Touch plus Keyboard. I think that was a smart play to reduce their risk. They said we can't predict the market - let's go with multiple choices and see what sticks.
The iPhone's success was a huge vote of confidence for touch only interface for SmartPhones. That's all Google leveraged (notwithstanding minor inspirations in both directions).
The paradigms for how one interacts with the device is completely different/superior on the iPhone. Typing vs writing, scrolling, multi-touch, finger vs stylus... not to mention the ability to surf the web like a desktop that we now take for granted.
To suggest that the iPhone was only a marginal improvement or a predictable evolution of previous generation OS'es, is being willfully ignorant to the facts and the market upheaval that took place post iPhone.
BB has the app tray that android copied where you have some apps in front of you and the rest in the app drawer
We had a Google phone, it was so unbelievable awful we paid a penalty to exit the contract and got an iPhone and have never bought another Android device since. If these phones where dropped in favour of the Google phone they must have been truely truely appalling.
I wish those folks had been inspired to come up with something new instead of just mimicking what Apple did.
Yes, the iPhone concept is pretty neat and some things work really well on a touchscreen. But then, am I really the only one missing the convenience and reliability (!) of especially email usage of the old BlackBerry?
And I would still be happy to trade half the screen on my iPhone 5 for a real keyboard.
Yes, the iPhone concept is pretty neat and some things work really well on a touchscreen. But then, am I really the only one missing the convenience and reliability (!) of especially email usage of the old BlackBerry?
And I would still be happy to trade half the screen on my iPhone 5 for a real keyboard.