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iPad An OS X tablet
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There already is an OS X tablet (beside the snarky answer that the iPad is a tablet that does indeed run a variant of OS X.
They've been making these for years:
http://www.modbook.com
They've been making these for years:
http://www.modbook.com
I acknowledged that sales were slowing/sliding; my point was that relative to the rest of the industry the iPad is still the best-selling tablet and that calling its sales "poor" without acknowledging larger industry trends isn't really painting a fair picture of the situation.
Its true--ipad with ios trounces surface as a slick information appliance. Windows has certainly improved with 8.x--but its not really close. The question is can windows continue to improve, or is the overhead of a desktop os just too heavy. I really dont know
Semantics, because Apple's other products are doing better then the market. To share holders, it doesn't matter what the market is doing, it matters what apple is (or in this case isn't) doing.
Either way, we're getting off the trail on this line of discussion, since it has little to do with OS X on a tablet,.
I disagree. I would say the vast majority would much rather iOS continue to evolve as a simpler, sleeker, easier to use alternative to OS X. I don't think many people want the complexities of a desktop OS on a tablet, and I don't think you would get a good tablet experience. You would end up with a traditional OS feel that wasn't touch first, because developers wouldn't be forced to rethink how they do things. This is how you move things forward. Not by keeping the old paradigms because they are comfortable.
I see what you are saying. You can tell Dropbox or Drive to store those files locally so temporary loss of internet access wouldn't be an issue. I suppose the limitation I see in your scenario is that it would not be possible to have all three open at once on iOS.
I completely agree there are limitations to the OS. However, in a way, I think maybe those limitations are a strength in addition to being a weakness. I think having these limitations is what will lead developers to figure out ways for us to eventually never need something like the Finder again. Further, I don't think using three or more apps like that at a time would be a very good experience without a larger screen, mouse, good keyboard, etc, and at that point I am reaching for my MacBook Air or Pro, and using the iPad Pro as a second screen.
I think there is value in saying that iPad won't do everything. It allows them to keep it simple. Now, I also think there could be value in giving the MacBook a touch screen.
Because I too believe that a hybrid device (at least the way Microsoft is doing it) is not the future of the iPad, I will interpret what you have written as a compliment (even though it is not directed at me).
The real challenge is letting iOS do more without losing its innate simplicity, and I am glad Apple is not taking the shortcut by just dumping in OS X like that.
Oh come on. You want simplicity, you got simplicity: iPad Mini and iPad Air. But the iPad Pro deserves more than just a smartphone OS.
if you dont like iOS then the iPad Pro is obviously not your device. Apple won't sacrifice OSX in order to make it more touch friendly. Microsoft has tried it and they failed miserably and ended up having both a bad UI for desktop and for mobile use. Now I know windows 10 is a lot better - but it is also less focussed on touch as it were before. Having played with the ipad pro I actually think it is an advantage of using iOS. Apple just has to go the extra mile to make the OS more optimized for pro work, but it is way less work than making OSX a system wide touch friendly OS and getting all the developers on board.
It would be a really slow Mac if it is emulating x86 on the A9X. The people advocating for an OS X iPad don't seem to take into consideration that OS X and iOS run on completely different processor architectures. Intel's only processor that could possibly work in a fanless design would be the Core M, and only because that processor throttles down a lot. A benefit of Apple's ARM designs is that it maintains high performance without throttling as much as Intel or even other ARM processor designs.I always thought it would be cool to have a Dual Boot Option so you can boot in to iOS for most every day things, but if you need a OS X program you could boot in to that and use the program you want with a mouse and keyboard
Won't happen....more accurately it can't happen.
OS X and every 1st/3rd party program would need to rewritten for ARM....ie it wouldn't be OS X.
Or
Use an x86 processor in an iPad....ie it wouldn't be an iPad.
I think it's more likely we'll see iOS evolve. Maybe a touch screen MacBook as a compromise eventually.
OS X and every 1st/3rd party program would need to rewritten for ARM....ie it wouldn't be OS X.
Or
Use an x86 processor in an iPad....ie it wouldn't be an iPad.
I think it's more likely we'll see iOS evolve. Maybe a touch screen MacBook as a compromise eventually.
For those that want an OS X tablet, try running Remote Desktop from your iPad to a Mac. I tried it, and the experience is terrible. OS X is designed for mouse and keyboard, not a touch screen. The Apple pencil helped, and the interface is still far from natural.
That's fine by me! I've said it before: when people are asking for OS X on iPad, most of them actually mean "we want something more advanced than iOS, we want more advanced software". I think it's the most common complaint I've heard in the reviews of the iPad Pro.
I believe a exact OS X conversion would be terrible as the tablet is spaced for finger input and why i am not a big fan of windows tablets.
But I think have something simplistic but with a true file system would be nice...
But I think have something simplistic but with a true file system would be nice...
I just need a touch screen tablet which have file managment with usb flash drive to copy file in and out.
i just hate the IOS right now which cannot use as a standalone system, everything need a notebook with itune connect.(ex: i cant play my audio file from dropbox with the build-in music player)
i just hate the IOS right now which cannot use as a standalone system, everything need a notebook with itune connect.(ex: i cant play my audio file from dropbox with the build-in music player)
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Patience. The iPad Pro/A9X has broken new ground and it will take time for the developers to catch up and iOS to continue maturing. Buy now or wait to buy, but the day is coming...
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand
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Yeah... that's why I'm hesitating buying an iPad Pro now, even though I really really want that Pencil. I'm sure the apps/OS situation will improve, but it'll take time and by then the first gen iPad Pro will already be obsolete.
Simplistic and exposed file system are kind of opposites. I think that is the whole point here. As soon as you add windowed multitasking, mouse support, exposed file system, etc, you start to get too complex and you lose what makes iOS great. I would much rather new ideas and processes be developed that make those things unnecessary complications, and I think that is the general goal behind iOS.
I propose an addendum to the poll:
Add "I want and would purchase one, but won't happen."
As much as I want this device, I doubt Apple will ever release it (at least in the near term).
Add "I want and would purchase one, but won't happen."
As much as I want this device, I doubt Apple will ever release it (at least in the near term).
I sometimes run OSX on my iPad via Screens. Screens itself works flawlessly. The connection is always solid, and the response time is pretty much on point. The problem is that OSX is not designed for touch. AT ALL. And I don't think Apple has plans to re-design it for touch. My feeling is that Apple is going to continue developing OSX for traditional laptop/desktop computers and iOS for phones/tablets, and then eventually (far into the future) let OSX die as there becomes less and less need for it, even among power users.
When the iPad Pro came out, I was confused by it and didn't see the need for it, at least as a laptop replacement. One of my biggest complaints was that my company uses a lot of different conference call clients and meeting managers and that none of them run on iOS. In the short time since then, ALL of our internal and external software has become available on iOS. I still don't have an iPad Pro, but I have a mini 3, and those clients work great even on THAT screen size. Since my job entails mostly meetings, email, and conference calls, I can now literally do my entire job from an iPad.
I'm starting to understand Apple's vision for iOS and OSX. I really don't think OSX is the way forward anymore.
When the iPad Pro came out, I was confused by it and didn't see the need for it, at least as a laptop replacement. One of my biggest complaints was that my company uses a lot of different conference call clients and meeting managers and that none of them run on iOS. In the short time since then, ALL of our internal and external software has become available on iOS. I still don't have an iPad Pro, but I have a mini 3, and those clients work great even on THAT screen size. Since my job entails mostly meetings, email, and conference calls, I can now literally do my entire job from an iPad.
I'm starting to understand Apple's vision for iOS and OSX. I really don't think OSX is the way forward anymore.
Just imagine - user data (not system or iOS itself!) shared by all iOS apps. Now every app got user files in its own sandboxes and they are not shared with other app. We have only "Open with..." -> yea, only for one file at the same time. When I want transfer many files from any app to Transmit (FTP client) and then upload it, I have to compress it to one zip archive, then with "Open with..." copy to Transmit and here uncompress.
I dont want exposed file system, I just want to share my personal files (movies, videos, web development files (example.php, example.html, example.css etc)) with all my apps. Just like Windows Phone does. In Windows Phone, you can put files into app sandbox (same like with iOS) or to SHARED sandbox, where I can access all my personal files with all apps, which are enabled for shared sandbox.
I dont want exposed file system, I just want to share my personal files (movies, videos, web development files (example.php, example.html, example.css etc)) with all my apps. Just like Windows Phone does. In Windows Phone, you can put files into app sandbox (same like with iOS) or to SHARED sandbox, where I can access all my personal files with all apps, which are enabled for shared sandbox.
You don't use OS X mode with your fingers and you don't use iOS mode with your mouse.
In OS X mode (mouse/trackpad connected) you see Pages, Numbers, ... like on OS X
In iOS mode you see Pages, Numbers,... like you know it from iOS.
What's the problem which couldn't solved by software?