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I thought they already handled more traffic than ATT? They did last year along with Sprint. The only question I see is ... do they want to go after Google. If they do, then you will see the iphone on other carriers. If they don't, then it stays ATT only so they can milk the profits. I don't think verizon is the issue at all, it's google.

Nope, because most their phones don't really use a lot of data, and they only have a fraction of smartphones as AT&T.
 
Create and sustain demand?

Not to mention limiting sales, removing choice from your customer bas3, and ensuring a rival company steals away tons of business from you. Yay. Only a dolt would see limiting the iPhone to ATTs lousy network as a good thing. Never underestimate the stupidity of a fanboy, I guess. Some of us are company agnostic, and just want quality options. Apple and AT&T aren't offering that, so I'll just turn to google and Sprint. See how that works.
 
You do realize that before the iPhone came out, Jobs shopped it around to all the other major carriers, and they all turned him down...right?

They didn't turn down the phone. They turned down Jobs' idiotic demands for carrying the phone. And now Google is eating up the market that Apple could be owning. Dumb move, Jobs. Real dumb.
 
I thought verizon said yes and they put the phone on the network and it bombed. It was called Motorola ROKR E1 Apple iTunes phone (yes, catchy name). Then they came back and asked to do it again, without prototypes yet. What would you answer be? Hindsight is 20/20, but when you just had one bomb in 2005, would you jump on something you haven't seen, and that you would have to give up everything for?

Apple didn't make the ROKR, it was a pure Motorola design. Apple's involvement with the ROKR was just allowing them to connect with iTunes AND sync FairPlay encoded tracks. So you're right, the ROKR did bomb, but that wouldn't reflect on Apple since it wasn't "their" project or product.
 
I'm one of the many who is ready. I have a (1st Gen) BB Storm and dislike the syncing software. You cannot control communication it is either 2 way or off. Between my iCal, MobleMe and BB's software I have 3 or 4 occurrences of the same even on a day and cannot delete them. I'm ready to have the iPhone 4th Gen.
But overall I just don't understand Apple's storage mentality. You have your iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad all of which have less storage than a iPod Classic. I have a large music library (including audiobooks & podcast), several movies and tv seasons. I want to add to this books. Well Apple you are pushing a digital age of media and print but making us pick and chose what we take with us. Either provide enough storage on the devices take our digital media libraries with us or let us stream it all from the cloud!
 
well they can wait
it ain't gonna happen for a whille

Verizon is a joke
they bought an old dying network suitable mainly for voice
they probably bought all the Dell computer towers sittin down at the goodwill to run it too
 
I'm on Verizon but I'm prepared to jump to AT&T if it's not announced next month.

AT&T coverage isn't that bad in Boston. They get service in MBTA tunnels that my Blackberry Tour doesn't. :-/
 
I hope none of those people are treading water waiting, or else a lot of them will drown.
 
They didn't turn down the phone. They turned down Jobs' idiotic demands for carrying the phone. And now Google is eating up the market that Apple could be owning. Dumb move, Jobs. Real dumb.

Look at the revenue and profit for the most recent quarter. Wow, Steve Jobs sure is dumb. I only wish I could be that stupid.

Google isn't eating anything. The Nexus One flopped. They make little money off of Android - mostly just ad revenue off search, maybe some off apps. At present they could make the same amount if those handsets were iPhones instead of Android whatevers. And Apple has 50% of the smartphone market worldwide. Apple already owns the smartphone market.
 
Heh, I'm just glad AT&T got the iphone as I probably wouldn't have gotten one or cared if they didn't. When I tried it I liked Cingular and wasn't really wanting to leave and was really only considering Cingular phones. I wouldn't have bothered looking at the iphone if it wasn't available on Cingular. I probably still wouldn't (I guess I'm the rare person who has been happy with Cingular/AT&T. I've always had good customer service with them and had no real issues with the cellphone service) honestly.

It's not that I'm super loyal to AT&T (I am somewhat as I've liked their service for the past 6-8 years), it's just htat I've had no reason to leave and nothing that really interested me to even shop the others (the only time I shopped was when first getting one and T-Mobile at the time didn't have very good coverage and Verizon was 20 dollars more expensive a month for their cheapest plan than Cingular. And I outright won't consider Sprint as they are the only ones I have perosnal experience with having crappy crappy coverage/service. So that's why I chose Cingular). So there would be a small chance I'd have an iphone or want one if AT&T didn't get it. And I *love* my iphone after getting it. I fell in love with it pretty much same day I got it and playing around with it. So I'm glad I did give it a chance.
 
Apple didn't make the ROKR, it was a pure Motorola design. Apple's involvement with the ROKR was just allowing them to connect with iTunes AND sync FairPlay encoded tracks. So you're right, the ROKR did bomb, but that wouldn't reflect on Apple since it wasn't "their" project or product.

While Apple didn't work on the UI itself, they collaborated with Motorola since it was to interface with iTunes.

For example, Apple hobbled the ROKR by demanding that Motorola limit the storage to slightly fewer songs than Apple's own iPods.

As for reflection on Apple, Steve Jobs himself introduced the ROKR with one of his famous "one more thing" speeches. See the cringe-worthy "iTunes Phone" intro video here.

So Apple goes to Verizon just months later and proposes a new iPod Phone, one that apparently has no apps, no 3G, no GPS, is locked to buying media from Apple without sharing profits, could not be sold by Verizon's partners, could not have Verizon insurance, and would not have a subsidy.

No wonder Verizon passed. The deal must've sounded ridiculous. Heck, even though ATT knew about the iPhone idea months before Verizon was told, ATT itself didn't sign a contract until a year _after_ Verizon was approached. It's not like carriers were falling over themselves to get such an unknown item.
 
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