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There will never be a 13" iPad. It's such a preposterous product to even consider.
A larger iPhone? Sure absolutely. Smaller iPad? obviously a great idea. But larger iPad? Who but a niche market would this product be aimed at. Even dwindling iPod users would have a larger market.

Yep, it would not only weigh a ridiculous amount, it is just far too cumbersome. Anyone who thinks it is a good idea is really oblivious to the intellect at Apple. Apple would never do this, it is simply not a smart idea.
 
Yep, it would not only weigh a ridiculous amount, it is just far too cumbersome. Anyone who thinks it is a good idea is really oblivious to the intellect at Apple. Apple would never do this, it is simply not a smart idea.

Why did they offer a 17" MacBook?
 
It may not happen this year, but it will happen eventually.

The iPad is not a compromise for those who want something cheaper and lighter than a MacBook, it's a different way of doing things. If you can't understand the benefits of a larger multi-touch surface, then I don't have anything to tell you.

I suggest that some of you listen to episode 49 of the Accidental Tech Podcast at around 92:30 (1h32) where John Siracusa makes a good case for an eventual iPad Pro. http://atp.fm/episodes/49-roamio-and-siracusiet
 
Enterprise settings.....

can be a logical fit for a larger iPad. I dont know in deep the today's display technologies, but what about Apple delivering an ultra-thin, ultra-light and power saving display bigger enough and enclosed into an iPad form?....:eek:

But then, what about manufacturing costs, R and D, marketing?.....:confused:
Bigger is not better so often as we can think.....


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Yep, it would not only weigh a ridiculous amount, it is just far too cumbersome. Anyone who thinks it is a good idea is really oblivious to the intellect at Apple. Apple would never do this, it is simply not a smart idea.

Yeah, 2-2.5 pounds would be soooo ridiculous for a computing device. And John Siracusa is soooo oblivious to the intellect at Apple. A larger multi-touch area is soooo useless and everyone only use their 9.7" iPad by holding it by one hand for hours instead of putting it on their lap or on a table. /sarcasm
 
Who is this product aimed at?

Pro users (better off using MacBook Pro if they are doing serious work)
Regular users (they will use iPad or iPad mini)

I teach at university. Last year I started using the iPad with the app Explain Everything to i) interactively draw diagrams and ii) screencast the lecture. Often, I felt the iPad screen was too small (combined with the large rubber tip of my bamboo stylus). I would certainly try a larger iPad and/or a finer stylus.
 
Well a 13" ipad would put it close to the size of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper. Apple may be targeting education with this.
 
Yep, it would not only weigh a ridiculous amount, it is just far too cumbersome. Anyone who thinks it is a good idea is really oblivious to the intellect at Apple. Apple would never do this, it is simply not a smart idea.

It does seem rather bizarre, yet Apples under mounting pressure after a year in which they took the easy way out, sitting back and profit taking. Having milked an old iPhone design for several upgrade cycles, proved they can sell anything to the public. The question is, how many iPad sizes do they actually believe are needed...
 
Why did they offer a 17" MacBook?

They don't sell that anymore, remember? Had something to do with no one wanting a 17" cumbersome, heavy laptop.

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Yeah, 2-2.5 pounds would be soooo ridiculous for a computing device. And John Siracusa is soooo oblivious to the intellect at Apple. A larger multi-touch area is soooo useless and everyone only use their 9.7" iPad by holding it by one hand for hours instead of putting it on their lap or on a table. /sarcasm

Yes I would love to carry around a 2-2.5lb '*mobile computing device'. It's so brilliant I almost can't take it. Might as well just go for 15" and up it to about 3-3.5lb mobile device. Everyone loves to put their iPad on their lap or table, that's why it's a laptop.. wait. Remember it's 'Apple. Think different.', not 'Apple. Don't think at all.'. :)
 
Perhaps all this talk about a bigger iPad plus all the rumours about a bigger iPhone may mean that apple has finally figured out resolution independence for iOS devices.

I sure hope so. Even more, I hope they're going to release it soon for Macs, now that 4K displays are here.
 
Yep, it would not only weigh a ridiculous amount, it is just far too cumbersome. Anyone who thinks it is a good idea is really oblivious to the intellect at Apple. Apple would never do this, it is simply not a smart idea.

It would probably still weigh less than the OG iPad, at the worst the same.
 
I think that there is going to be a MacBook Pro + iPad notebook/tablet

The new Apple innovation. A "detachable" iPad as the screen for the MacBook Pro, while the MacBook Pro + iPad both have their own separate OS X & iOS operating systems, hardware components, etc. that work seemlessly together and also work separately. With the rumored AirDrop OS X to iOS 8, that would also make a lot of sense for instant file transfer between devices.
 
They don't sell that anymore, remember? Had something to do with no one wanting a 17" cumbersome, heavy laptop.

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Yes I would love to carry around a 2-2.5lb '*mobile computing device'. It's so brilliant I almost can't take it. Might as well just go for 15" and up it to about 3-3.5lb mobile device. Everyone loves to put their iPad on their lap or table, that's why it's a laptop.. wait. Remember it's 'Apple. Think different.', not 'Apple. Don't think at all.'. :)

Since you seem to be all knowing about Apple's "DNA", remember the keynote where Steve Jobs unveiled the iPad, sat down in a comfy chair, crossed his legs and demonstrated typical usage of the iPad on stage?

The original iPad weights 1.5 lbs, the iPad air cut that down to 1 lbs. A 12" iPad could probably done at around 2 lbs, which wouldn't be that much more than the iPad 1 and still lighter than a MacBook. With typical usage (which doesn't always involve holding it with one hand), it wouldn't make that much of a difference, while providing more screen estate.

This whole idea that "If it weight the same as a MacBook air, get the Macbook because you can do more stuff with it!" seems to completely disregard the touch screen interface paradigm as something that is inferior in almost every way to the Mac's windowed interface, as an obliged compromise that exist only to enable more mobility.

I didn't buy an iPad because it was lighter than a MacBook. I bought it because I prefer the direct manipulation aspect that multi-touch screen devices bring, along with the simplified "no-hassle" philosophy of iOS. So of course, like many others, would like to have more of it by the means of a bigger screen size.
 
Since you seem to be all knowing about Apple's "DNA", remember the keynote where Steve Jobs unveiled the iPad, sat down in a comfy chair, crossed his legs and demonstrated typical usage of the iPad on stage?

The original iPad weights 1.5 lbs, the iPad air cut that down to 1 lbs. A 12" iPad could probably done at around 2 lbs, which wouldn't be that much more than the iPad 1 and still lighter than a MacBook. With typical usage (which doesn't always involve holding it with one hand), it wouldn't make that much of a difference, while providing more screen estate.

This whole idea that "If it weight the same as a MacBook air, get the Macbook because you can do more stuff with it!" seems to completely disregard the touch screen interface paradigm as something that is inferior in almost every way to the Mac's windowed interface, as an obliged compromise that exist only to enable more mobility.

I didn't buy an iPad because it was lighter than a MacBook. I bought it because I prefer the direct manipulation aspect that multi-touch screen devices bring, along with the simplified "no-hassle" philosophy of iOS. So of course, like many others, would like to have more of it by the means of a bigger screen size.

" didn't buy an iPad because it was lighter than a MacBook. I bought it because I prefer the direct manipulation aspect that multi-touch screen devices bring, along with the simplified "no-hassle" philosophy of iOS."

This pretty much sums it up. Well said.
 
Well to be fair, it is incredibly hard to wrap your head around. This and that whole 5" iPhone thing is just weird. Are we still talking about Apple? Because this is sounding more and more like Google and Microsoft stuff; both fine companies in their own respect (I love my Nokia 1020 along with my rMBP and iPad ;)). This is just so counterintuitive for Apple's culture.
 
Maybe an updated Thunderbolt Display?

I don't think with the way that Apple is going for smaller and lighter as far as mobile devices are concerned, would suddenly come out with a large iPad. I also don't see them doing something like the Microsoft Surface or anything.

So what if this is an updated retina Thunderbolt display? It might not be an AppleTV or anything, but it could be a trial release of a product that will serve as a display that will eventually lead to the production and adapt of the technology for the AppleTV that is always wished for.

I think that would be awesome. After all, who says a TB display has to be that think now when they have successfully increased the resolution on iOS devices to match other larger displays?

oooooh, I know. The Retina Display Pro; to go with the new Mac Pro (and it will come in aluminum and black). Nice.

And yes, this is a serious post.
 
Providing the cost of manufacture isn't too great ... then it could be viable for them to go ahead and do it regardless of market.

Hmmm, that doesn't sound like a very Apple-y approach to me— they're not really known for throwing **** against the wall to see what sticks.

:)
 
I have a feeling that IF (big if) apple does release a 13" ipad, that they're going to cut the 13" air and have the 11" join the rMBP line.

Why would they do that? If the 13inch MBAir sells well, why remove it? The two don't really compete against one another.
 
I believe both a circa 12" iPad and 4.8" iPhone are now in advanced development.

How is this possible? The answer is simple: the next version of iOS (8.0?) will now support any resolution display, and that makes it possible for the larger size displays at Retina Display resolution. If the unveiling of iOS 8.0 at WWDC in June 2014 includes display resolution independence, that pretty much confirms the larger-screen iOS devices coming fall 2014.
 
Well to be fair, it is incredibly hard to wrap your head around. This and that whole 5" iPhone thing is just weird. Are we still talking about Apple? Because this is sounding more and more like Google and Microsoft stuff; both fine companies in their own respect (I love my Nokia 1020 along with my rMBP and iPad ;)). This is just so counterintuitive for Apple's culture.

Apple is going after the screen sizes that they feel is what customers want. In order to do a ~5inch model, they have to look at weight, battery life, speed, cost, etc. etc. I think when Apple decided to go after the larger screen size, they just couldn't create what they felt comfortable with until this year. I don't see what the problem with a larger screen iPhone? I personally want this larger screen model largely due to my eyesight. Obviously, there are people that have small hands, medium sized hands, large hands and one size doesn't fit all. Apple tries to go after the sweet spot as they do have to sell enough to warrant producing the product.

I think that there is a large enough market, already proven by the amount of Android/Windows/Blackberry phones with a larger screen size. It's just a matter of hitting all of the areas to make it a great product. So far, I'm not really thrilled with the alternatives. The HTC One is the closest I've seen to a well designed product, however I just don't like Android OS and all of the associated problems with it. I welcome a larger iPhone and they should have a few screen sizes to choose from, they'll probably gain quite a bit of market share when they do it.
 
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