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I am interested in seeing how Macbook Air, will shape up compared to it's two main competitors, Asus Zenbook Infinity and Samsung ATIV 9 Plus.

When they can run OSX it will be interesting. Until then, they are not competitors.
 
When they can run OSX it will be interesting. Until then, they are not competitors.

I can agree with the sentiment that some people want OS X, because it makes their workflows easier. i'm one of those people that likes - maybe even *needs* - a UNIX-like OS to get the job done, and the extra polishes that make OS X so much better for that job. But that's not always the case. Some users can take it or leave it, and Windows will work fine for them. And for those users, these other laptops might be worthy competitors.
 
Since when is 11 hours vs 12 hours winning by a mile? Doing some basic math, that's a battery loss of about 8%. Either of those numbers is insane.

So it really wins by about 150 yards...

One extra hour of battery is huge, 11 hours vs 12 hours is not a winning by a mile, it is winning by 100 miles.
 
I'm not exactly sure why this is a bad thing. Or why "all kinds of users" saying it meets their needs is contradictory to the above statements. All kinds of users are in fact finding that the lightweight robustness of the macBook Air is not only sufficient, but a step up from even the MacBook Pros of a couple generations ago that they were using to do the same jobs prior.

It's obvious you didn't understand my underlying message...which is the MBA is a fine laptop (or whatever you'd like to call it), but it's not a dedicated computer intended for gamerz or professional photog/video editors. That's why there's a MacBook Pro line. And yet, I see post after post where someone is disappointed that the MBA doesn't fit their specific (generally very specific) need. My point is this: it's not designed to fit those particular niches AND THAT'S OKAY! It's a great laptop. But if one's use is dedicated gaming or high-end video editing, then a MBA may not be the best tool for those particular uses.
 
It's obvious you didn't understand my underlying message...

I understood it quite well. And I understand you're trying to backtrack, and you're welcome to attempt that. But if you assert that your backtracked message is the correct one, then it becomes obvious you don't understand what a "netbook" is.... and if you can't grasp that, then I have to call everything else you say into question.
 
I understood it quite well. And I understand you're trying to backtrack, and you're welcome to attempt that. But I think it's still obvious you don't understand what a "netbook" is.

The meaning has changed over time. It used to mean a super light portable laptop-like device. I have 2 netbooks (a Dell Mini 9 and a Toshiba NB205). I can run lots of programs on them and not only surf the web. Then came the differentiation of the portables with monikers like "ultrabook," etc, etc. It's market segmentation. Most (but not all) lightweight and portable laptop computers can and do store programs locally. A few only use the cloud. Specs vary. Sorry your panties got twisted.
 
One extra hour of battery is huge, 11 hours vs 12 hours is not a winning by a mile, it is winning by 100 miles.

How so? How many laptops get 10 hours of battery life? If it's winning by 100 miles, then the race must be a 1200 mile race, because that's the 8% difference. An i7 should be able to complete any task faster and then go to an idle state faster than i5. So really that's why its basically the same. 8% is well within normal margins for a battery.
 
How so? How many laptops get 10 hours of battery life? If it's winning by 100 miles, then the race must be a 1200 mile race, because that's the 8% difference. An i7 should be able to complete any task faster and then go to an idle state faster than i5. So really that's why its basically the same. 8% is well within normal margins for a battery.

Its true. I had a 11 inch 2013 macbook 4gb, 256, I5. I converted bank job in hd and it took 3 1/2 hours. I did the same movie on my rMBP and it took 1 1/2 hours. Also the air become un responsive at times and the rMBP did not. Sure the extra time is cool if all you do is check web pages and Facebook. But when you start using the CPU and ram that battery life really takes a hit. Plus the fan goes into jet engine mode.
 
How so? How many laptops get 10 hours of battery life? If it's winning by 100 miles, then the race must be a 1200 mile race, because that's the 8% difference. An i7 should be able to complete any task faster and then go to an idle state faster than i5. So really that's why its basically the same. 8% is well within normal margins for a battery.

This.
 
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