I don't know how I missed that. Back in the days, when MSI first released the 'stealth' it was a hot mess. I never looked at it again, through all the consequent generations. But boy, apparently already last year it was good and they improved this year with additional heat pipes and stay on the low end of configurable TDP making it fairly quiet and cool. Dual, upgradable storage, upgradable RAM, matte IPS FHD screen (144 MHz 7ms a bonus for me), 5% larger and heavier than MBP. Only one TB3 though, but other than that checks all the boxes for me. Looking at various sources I came up with those numbers, comparing to MBP: ComponentMSI GS65 i7 8850MBP 2018 i9Relative to MBP GPURTX 2080 Max-QVega Pro 20GPU TDP 8050+60%FireStrike CPU166698777 +90%FireStrike GPU178939147+96% TimeSpy CPU68803961+74%TimeSpy GPU6821 2623+160%Noise at max rpm44* 47-6%footprint886 cm2841 cm2+5%weight1.9 kg1.83 kg+4%Thickness17.9 mm15.5 mm+15%Price (i7,32GB, 4TB)$4,106 (2x970 2TB)$6,749-36%*(from previous model review with 1070MQ which has 85W TDP) CPU looks about the same, but with repasting and undervolting it should smoke the MBP, even though MSI starts downclocking at 90C and MBP at 100C. I'm going to configure mine with 2TB 970 EVO and WD Blue 2TB SATA on m.2 to save on power consumption, total comes to $3876. I guess this is it, the only thing I don't like is the location of power socket and tb3, in the middle of the right side. And the gold accents. I can live with having to flip the motherboard to access SSD and RAM, at least you can replace them at all. EDIT: Nice review just popped up: https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65 Yeah, 1250 in cinebench, smokes the MBP also in CPU department.