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Andrea Jung Joins Apple's Board Of Directors

BornAgainMac said:
iChat HD Pro CEO Edition.
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hmmm, me likey.

Do the current Macbooks have the same high resolution iSights ans iMacs and Macbook Pros? I have an old Macbook and the camera gives me 320x240, visibly upscaled to 640x480. If anyone has a recent Macbook, please do me a favor and open photobooth and use the stretch effect. On current iMacs, it looks very nice and sharp because of the better camera. Can someone take a pic with photobooth stretch effect and post it here?
 
She was probably picked as CEO to give a different perspective (including a woman's point of view) to where Apple can go in the future. With experience in Avon and Neiman Marcus, she probably knows a few things about selling to the masses. I think many people will be hung up on the Avon to give her kudos for her experiences. Personally, as long as Apple keeps improving their products, I'm not really interested who is on the board.
 
Aniej said:
While I'm more indifferent about this addition to the Board of Directors than annoyed, I am a bit puzzled about what it is that Apple seeks to derive from her contribution to the company's governance. I understand why Schmidt, Gore, and literally every other member of the Board was asked to join, but just don't get the angle Jung brings. In reaching for some reasoned basis for her inclusion, the closest I get is the high end design and consumer market, but even then it seems to be a bit of a stretch.

Anyone else have thoughts?

Google Finance description of Avon Products, Inc. - a global manufacturer and marketer of beauty and related products. Its products fall into three product categories: Beauty, which consists of cosmetics, fragrances, skin care and toiletries (CFT); Beauty Plus, which consists of fashion jewelry, watches, apparel and accessories, and Beyond Beauty, which consists of home products and gift and decorative products. Sales from Health and Wellness products and mark., a global cosmetics brand that focuses on the market for young women, are included among these three categories based on product type. Its business is conducted worldwide primarily in one channel, direct selling. The Company’s segments are based on geographic operations in six regions: North America; Latin America; western Europe, Middle East & Africa; Central & Eastern Europe; Asia Pacific, and China.
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In general, it's a good idea to round out your board with people who have experience in other fields or industries. There's a a lot of common best practices that transcend industries, no matter what the product is. I also, hate to say it, but having more women on your board is looked at as good - especially for tech companies that may be viewed as dominated by white males. I'm sure she's more than qualified, but having that type of gender/ethnic diversity is viewed as a requirement. (There's also benefits to having that type of diversity, but that's a whole other tangent for another thread...)
 
Aniej said:
I am a bit puzzled about what it is that Apple seeks to derive from her contribution to the company's governance. I understand why Schmidt, Gore, and literally every other member of the Board was asked to join, but just don't get the angle Jung brings. In reaching for some reasoned basis for her inclusion, the closest I get is the high end design and consumer market, but even then it seems to be a bit of a stretch.

Anyone else have thoughts?
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The first thing that jumps out at me is that she is fluent in Mandarin. Perhaps her role will be focused on helping Apple understand the Chinese market? Aren't iPhones scheduled to launch in China sometime in 2008 or 2009?
 
Small White Car said:
This is the kind of thing this woman seems to be an expert at...
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She's also: board member of General Electric, and member of the New York Presbyterian Hospital board of trustees and the Catalyst board of directors. As well as speaking fluent Mandarin, handy for dealing with Apple's plans for the Chinese market.

More experience in her pinkie fingernail than probably all of MacRumor's forum posters combined... including the misogynists.
 
Blue Velvet said:
More experience in her pinkie fingernail than probably all of MacRumor's forum posters combined... including the misogynists.
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And what an attractively manicured pinkie fingernail it is. I'm sure as long as she has her husband's dinner on the table when he gets home from his REAL job, he doesn't mind what his bird gets up to. :rolleyes:

Some here obviously have big issues with the idea that a lot of the time the best man for the job is a woman. Maybe once they get out of short trousers they'll realise how ridiculous that world view is.
 
I was worried that, when a woman was added to the board, we'd be all professional and focus just on her actual credentials.

I'm glad to see we're treating her just like the men (who can forget the Al Gore swimsuit pic posts and the discussion of Schmidt's excellent ass?) and discussing her like anyone, especially a woman, should be discussed.

However, I'll admit to thinking her smile looks awkward. But I think that of most CEO types.

And I still say Schmidt has the better ass.
 
dynamicv said:
Some here obviously have big issues with the idea that a lot of the time the best man for the job is a woman.
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WHO is it that has a problem? I just went back and re-read all the comments and found none that hold this view. Any other insults about us that you want to make up?

There are comments wondering if someone from Avon might make the computers pink and fuzzy and stuff like that. But those comments are all related to her job and not her gender. There are also "she's hot or not" comments, but those say nothing about her being unsuitable for the job. I found nothing to support your comment.
 
Small White Car said:
WHO is it that has a problem? I just went back and re-read all the comments and found none that hold this view. Any other insults about us that you want to make up?

There are comments wondering if someone from Avon might make the computers pink and fuzzy and stuff like that. But those comments are all related to her job and not her gender. There are also "she's hot or not" comments, but those say nothing about her being unsuitable for the job. I found nothing to support your comment.
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Read jsw's post above. I think you'll find that sums it up perfectly.
 
Small White Car said:
You mean the one where he sarcasticly criticizes all the "is she hot or not" posts and implies that they're in poor taste?

How is that bad?
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His point appears to me to be that if she were not a woman those type of posts would not be occurring in the first place. The implication from the posters is that Andrea Jung's capability for the job does not matter as much as how attractive she may or may not be. And that, whether you agree or not, is sexist as far as I'm concerned.
 
dynamicv said:
The implication from the posters is that Andrea Jung's capability for the job does not matter as much as how attractive she may or may not be.
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I read it as the exact opposite. Even after seeing your reading of it, I still agree with my original assesment.

Oh well, only jsw can answer now.
 
Small White Car said:
WHO is it that has a problem? I just went back and re-read all the comments and found none that hold this view. Any other insults about us that you want to make up?

There are comments wondering if someone from Avon might make the computers pink and fuzzy and stuff like that. But those comments are all related to her job and not her gender. There are also "she's hot or not" comments, but those say nothing about her being unsuitable for the job. I found nothing to support your comment.
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Bravo!
I completely agree. I really couldn't understand what all the fuss is about :confused:
 
I'm trying hard here to see the relationship between cosmetics and technology that makes her oh-so-qualified to be an Apple director...

...But failing miserably.
 
QCassidy352 said:
Right, cause having a former vice president of the united states and emmy/oscar/nobel winning activist on the board is something that any respectable company would try to avoid. :rolleyes:
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IMO the guy is a bit of a idiot. An also-ran, who embarrassingly exaggerates, who has found his rightful place in the environmental world (a world not famous for its grip on reality either).
 
New Director key to Apple's Next Marketing Strategy?

Since Ms Jung's strength is marketing, and Avon is famous for selling door-to -door, it makes since that what Apple is planning to do.

Ding, dong...Apple calling.
 
Azurael said:
I'm trying hard here to see the relationship between cosmetics and technology that makes her oh-so-qualified to be an Apple director...

...But failing miserably.
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If you want to succeed I suggest reading all the posts before this. There are a few that point out the plusses (hint: ignore the posts dealing with how attractive she may or may not be as well as the posts retelling the hello kitty laptop joke for the millionth time. ;) )
 
Azurael said:
I'm trying hard here to see the relationship between cosmetics and technology that makes her oh-so-qualified to be an Apple director...

...But failing miserably.
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She's the CEO of a major corporation that manufactures and sells items directly to consumers -- a corporation that relies heavily on its own retail operation to sell its products, no less.

Sounds like the very same thing Apple does.

She's not going to design the computers or engineer them. that's not what board members do.
 
Lets not lose our sense of humor in a bid to be Politically Correct eh

NAG said:
If you want to succeed I suggest reading all the posts before this. There are a few that point out the plusses (hint: ignore the posts dealing with how attractive she may or may not be as well as the posts retelling the hello kitty laptop joke for the millionth time. ;) )
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hey i have only posted that hello kitty laptop on here ONCE before!!!

On a serious note, the fact that she can speak Mandarin can only be a supersized bonus.
 
I can see the Macworld Stevenote now. Awesome products announced..... One more thing... Q Lazzarus's Goodbye Horses starts playing over the speakers. Steve pulls out Avon lipstick and starts doing his Buffalo Bill/Jay from Clerks 2 dance. Holds up new ultraportable Macbook Pro. "Would you buy me? I'd buy me... NOW."
 
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