There is no delay, as KLP was never given a release date. Furthermore, 4.3 has been being tested for a while now, so it has been in existence for some time now.
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There is no delay, as KLP was never given a release date. Furthermore, 4.3 has been being tested for a while now, so it has been in existence for some time now.
Too bad it takes manufacturers and carriers like 6 months or longer after its released for them to update your new phone. All because they need to make sure their bloatware works for it. I much prefer Apple's method where everyone gets it the same day, as it should be.
SnowLeopard2008
macrumors 604
Maybe Google I/O? It's likely that a new Nexus device(s) will be announced. Maybe a new OS to go along with new device(s)? Android 4.3 has been in testing stage for quite some time.
I think Motorola's rumored X phone is going to be the next Nexus device. As someone previously stated, the X phone seems to be delayed until the Q3/4 which would make sense if they wanted to do an ICS-style KLP release. They could host an event for the X phone while also showing off KLP.
Nexus X doesn't sound half bad and would keep their two-syllable device name trend (broken with the Galaxy Nexus, of course...).
SnowLeopard2008
macrumors 604
Then maybe a new tablet or two since the Nexus 7 is almost a year old? Maybe KLP will focus more on tablets and be released at Google I/O. Smartphones are kind of a saturated market while the tablet market still has plenty of room for growth.
Babel (which is not what it will be called) is separate from the next version of Android.
Assault
macrumors 6502a
Unless you are working at Google and on the project, everything is a guess. However, the leaked code that has been found has referenced Babel. Could be a code name for the project, I suppose, but since I dont work at Google, I am just guessing.
If common sense were to be used, I would put everything messenging and mms related under Google Talk.
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Everyone would prefer that method. Even if the manufacturers needed a month to get the code working with their hardware, that wouldnt be bad, but the carriers uuuggghhh. No one wants their crapware pre-installed anyway. There is no reason they should be involved in the software cycle at all.
I am aware of what the leaks say and show, however my previous statement wasn't a guess.
I see your logic here, but it's going to go in a different direction entirely.
Hahaha this comment is so funny. 4.2 will increase in the next 60 days? Essentially 4.2 will increase once it becomes the old version of Android 😉
Versions of Jelly Bean have barely reached 25% and it has been out for almost a year now! 😱
4.2 has been out almost 6 months and only 2%!
Let's be real, I love my Nexus 4. But those OS upgrade statistic are absolutely pathetic.
Although to be fair, I am sure the statistics for Nexus devices are extremely different 🙂
spinedoc77
macrumors G4
I don't know... doesn't Apple have a huge conversion rate when they release a new OS version? Maybe its the notification on the phone, but something motivates most ios users to upgrade whenever apple releases an upgrade. They seem to market this better as well.
adder7712
macrumors 68000
Every iOS user updates to the latest version because they are able to. Apple controls and makes all their devices, which is very few, so they are able to push updates out to them all at once.
It's a little more difficult with Android. Google doesn't control most Android devices and isn't able to simply push out updates like Apple does. First off, there are probably HUNDREDS of Android device manufacturers and they are the ones who control their device's software updates. That, and the carrier if it's not purchased factory unlocked. Carriers probably use up half the time just to add all their bloatware and other crap. Then, finally it is pushed out. Of course, Android device updates take months for the manufacturer to get out, if they do it at all.
That is why we have the developer community. Usually, the newest version of Android is ported to most devices long before the manufacturers do it, if even. For most regular consumers, software updates on Android won't matter much and they probably don't care anyways...
Assault
macrumors 6502a
Not sure why it matters to you or why it is funny? I have been running 4.2.2 for a while now, because I have a developer community and the option to root.
Additionally, they lump every Android phone into this pie chart statistic, when what should be viewed (for comparison to Apple) are flagship phones. How many S3's, HTC Ones, Note 2's, etc are running Gingerbread, ICS and Jelly Bean? Look at those stats if you actually want to compare to Apple. You will see a very similar pie chart as Apples when only the high end Android and Google phones are broken down. Instead every single one of those billion handsets running Android are added.
Or Maybe we should include every iPhone, iPad, iPod ever made into the Apple pie chart? All of a sudden, things wont look so pretty. All those 3G's and 3GS's and ipad2's/ipods would make your pie chart look a lot more like Androids. But only the iphone 4 and above are included. I mean, iOS 6 has been out for over 6 months and all those iphones aren't on it? Sad, right?
Agreed. iOS users are also more apt to update because they can only get new software features when Apple decides it is time to trickle out a tiny bit to their masses.
iOS is years behind Android, so we take simple things like attaching multiple attachments to an email for granted. If Apple allowed this to happen, every iOS user would update immediately. There is little need for most users on Android, because the phone can already do everything a PC can do.
And lastly, Google doesnt have to put out a yearly update to add functionality to Android. Google Apps are updates all the time, allowing individuals to download small files and get updates quickly, unlike with Apple.
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JaySoul
macrumors 68030
Not sure.
But I would have thought they'd prefer users to be on newer versions, simply because the user can do more, utilise more cash-generating functions and ultimately make Google look good (plus make more money through location services - e.g. Google Now etc).
daveathall
macrumors 68020
I'm not bothered if my Android phone stops getting updates after 2 years, my contract expires then so I will just get a newer phone and the cycle of 2 yearly updates just continues, isn't that what happens for most people?
This was true maybe a year ago, before iOS 6. Apple has pretty much caught up, especially with a jailbreak. Your example is flawed too. I just attached 5 pictures in an email I just sent a friend from my iPhone.
Assault
macrumors 6502a
Attach a pdf, a picture, a video, a ppt and a doc to the same email. This is what I was referring to. Because iOS lacks access to the file system, you are dependent upon individual apps to upload that apps attachment. i.e. Photo Gallery is needed to attach photos to your email. And then what happens when you wish to attach a file format iOS doesnt recognize? Guess you are just screwed, huh?
And even with a jailbreak the access provided to the file system is crap and requires a lot of use just to remember where files get saved, since you have zero control over that. Android is just like a PC or Mac when it comes to using it.
If there's nothing wrong with it... why change it? Change for the sake of change is BAD.
Assault
macrumors 6502a
Not the point. Point is, just like a pc or Mac, you can attach any sort of file to an email with Android. You aren't restricted. Would you buy a Macbook that had the same limitations as an iphone? Doubtful.
And you can't run iTunes on Android, I can't watch movies download from my Apple TV on an Android, i cant use imessage on an Android, I can't connect an Android phone to my car and have all my music come up on my head unit.....seems pretty restrictive to me. All depends on what you do with your phone. The things I listed above, most people do every day. Your ridiculous example of attaching every file known to man in one email is a giant stretch no one will ever do..
paulsalter
macrumors 68000
I agree, very restrictive
If Apple opened up their apps to other platforms I would still be using them
TacticalDesire
macrumors 68020
So because an Android phone doesn't work in a proprietary, walled ecosystem, that's a restriction imposed by android and not apple? Not sure if I follow your logic. Those are apples restrictions, not Googles. Same thing with your head unit. That's the manufacturers limitations. Not Androids.
Flawed logic is flawed.
Because after two years and with a new version (4-5), I expect something new. Most Android fans feel the same way. It's keeps people interested.