iPhone XS Android flagships 1/2 the price of iPhone, will apple lower prices?

[whitedragon101]

I just checked out top 10 flagship android phones and most are around £500 with only the top 2 around £700, yet an iPhone Xs (not max) is £1149. Just a crazy amount of money. I figured the Android flagship prices would be a bit less but its not even close.

Now I personally need an iPhone to develop IOS apps but I can't see how they can sustain such price gouging.

This is from an avid Apple fan (iPhone XS, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, iPad Pro)

 

[Closingracer]

Android flagships are NOT half the price. Using USD. The base price for the XS is $999. Most flagships Android is around the $800-$900 range

 

[eyoungren]

I just checked out top 10 flagship android phones and most are around £500 with only the top 2 around £700, yet an iPhone Xs (not max) is £1149. Just a crazy amount of money. I figured the Android flagship prices would be a bit less but its not even close.

Now I personally need an iPhone to develop IOS apps but I can't see how they can sustain such price gouging.

This is from an avid Apple fan (iPhone XS, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, iPad Pro)

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

 

[Cycom]

I just checked out top 10 flagship android phones and most are around £500 with only the top 2 around £700, yet an iPhone Xs (not max) is £1149. Just a crazy amount of money. I figured the Android flagship prices would be a bit less but its not even close.

Now I personally need an iPhone to develop IOS apps but I can't see how they can sustain such price gouging.

This is from an avid Apple fan (iPhone XS, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, iPad Pro)

I tried an android flagship. Note 9. 512gb storage, 8gb RAM. Crap phone for me because in my opinion android is a clunky mess. A plethora of useless features that are there just because. And not cheap!

I’ll take iOS on overpriced hardware any day.

 

[pika2000]

I just checked out top 10 flagship android phones and most are around £500 with only the top 2 around £700, yet an iPhone Xs (not max) is £1149. Just a crazy amount of money. I figured the Android flagship prices would be a bit less but its not even close.

Now I personally need an iPhone to develop IOS apps but I can't see how they can sustain such price gouging.

This is from an avid Apple fan (iPhone XS, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, iPad Pro)

If you think Android offers better value for you, then get them. It’s simple.
Clearly Apple offers something more than just a phone with their iPhone. And no, the prices are not that much different. Look at Samsung or Google Pixel prices. As expensive as iPhone in general and less support. The ones cheaper are the plethora of Chinese phones trying to gain market share by playing the thin margin game.

 

[Wide opeN]

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

I would say your post is spot on, and it is.

However, more than ever Apple is feeling the pressure from the market and people's unwillingness to upgrade to the flagships.

So your post stands today, but we're rapidly approaching a time frame where this logic will not apply as the used/older models will still be more than people are willing to pay.

Apple is all powerful, BUT the MARKET always wins in the end, ALWAYS!!!

So let the waiting game begin and let's see who blinks first.

 

[EM2013]

Regular S10 - $899

Note -$999

Regular Pixel 3 - $799

LG V50 - $999

None of these flagship androids are half the price.

Everyone needs to stop acting like the iPhone is ridiculously overpriced. Yes prices went up, yes it’s slightly overpriced, but androids are not far behind and certainly aren’t half the price.

 

[Shirasaki]

Also, Google is ramping up their game of building their own walled garden to control everything from hardware to software. They are discouraging users to root Android as well. When Google has a comparable ecosystem of its own, let’s see how Google prices their Pixel lineup, even after Google giving up on tablet market.

 

[Wide opeN]

Regular S10 - $899

Note -$999

Regular Pixel 3 - $799

LG V50 - $999

None of these flagship androids are half the price.

Everyone needs to stop acting like the iPhone is ridiculously overpriced. Yes prices went up, yes it’s slightly overpriced, but androids are not far behind and certainly aren’t half the price.

I'm with you to be sure... But we both know deals can be had on these phones that substantially lower the price

https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone...cid=WMM_TMNG_19SMSGGS10_ZNLIDJCIBA1L4FD217754

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472028-REG/samsung_sm_n960fd128bk_galaxy_note_9_n960fd.html?ap=y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwp5_qBRDBARIsANxdcikGw9yCHL1RVyb-XQs5RCom0WdavoVj3Q0cSvOrWGH86SvbEJsEp3oaAnIAEALw_wcB&lsft=BI:514&smp=y

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/4624121539140359763?q=pixel+3&client=safari&hl=en-us&biw=414&bih=710&tbs=cat:267,pdtr0:706402|976386,pdtr1:872491|1742975,pdtr2:1742963|2562354,vw:l,init_ar:SgVKAwiLAkoKUggI4o4rIILMO0oKUggIq6A1IP-wakoLUgkI87BqILKynAFKB7IEBAiJqiA=,ss:53&prmd=sniv&prds=of:1,epd:16940237591984398466,paur:ClkAsKraX4EE_1FqnZA6H5KRzuGEqBB5pBKY2A08lVYKPsMfaiKWfN5tBy2Qqp0r__-2MhW2maFofAt9QxVWlc9oOxpSPV7Giq7OabZwrS2Mj-qRbAMImBZhvRIZAFPVH72lcmfC0F8G41zQIOX6rBBu3STNGQ,local:1,prmr:2,cs:1

The v50 may be the only exception as it's new.

There will be no such deals for iPhone unless it's sanctioned by Apple.

IMJS

 

[Closingracer]

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

lol until their sales dwindle more. I mean something has to give and I give Apple giving sooner rather then later

 

[Closingracer]

I'm with you to be sure... But we both know deals can be had on these phones that substantially lower the price

https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone...cid=WMM_TMNG_19SMSGGS10_ZNLIDJCIBA1L4FD217754

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472028-REG/samsung_sm_n960fd128bk_galaxy_note_9_n960fd.html?ap=y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwp5_qBRDBARIsANxdcikGw9yCHL1RVyb-XQs5RCom0WdavoVj3Q0cSvOrWGH86SvbEJsEp3oaAnIAEALw_wcB&lsft=BI:514&smp=y

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/4624121539140359763?q=pixel+3&client=safari&hl=en-us&biw=414&bih=710&tbs=cat:267,pdtr0:706402|976386,pdtr1:872491|1742975,pdtr2:1742963|2562354,vw:l,init_ar:SgVKAwiLAkoKUggI4o4rIILMO0oKUggIq6A1IP-wakoLUgkI87BqILKynAFKB7IEBAiJqiA=,ss:53&prmd=sniv&prds=of:1,epd:16940237591984398466,paur:ClkAsKraX4EE_1FqnZA6H5KRzuGEqBB5pBKY2A08lVYKPsMfaiKWfN5tBy2Qqp0r__-2MhW2maFofAt9QxVWlc9oOxpSPV7Giq7OabZwrS2Mj-qRbAMImBZhvRIZAFPVH72lcmfC0F8G41zQIOX6rBBu3STNGQ,local:1,prmr:2,cs:1

The v50 may be the only exception as it's new.

There will be no such deals for iPhone unless it's sanctioned by Apple.

IMJS

So? I have my X on a $20 per month lease. After buyout it’s going to cost me $650 or so. $450 under MSRP. If you wait you can get current flagships on sale. I bought it may 2018 which was the flagship at the tine

 

[Shanghaichica]

Android flagships are NOT half the price. Using USD. The base price for the XS is $999. Most flagships Android is around the $800-$900 range

They are cheaper though and if you’re air a while the price drops. The price of the flagship iPhone never drops.

The S10+ launched in the UK for £899. You can get it cheaper now. The Xs max costs £1099 and you only get 64GB of storage compared to 128GB on the base model of the S10+ which is £200 cheaper.
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Regular S10 - $899

Note -$999

Regular Pixel 3 - $799

LG V50 - $999

None of these flagship androids are half the price.

Everyone needs to stop acting like the iPhone is ridiculously overpriced. Yes prices went up, yes it’s slightly overpriced, but androids are not far behind and certainly aren’t half the price.

The iPhone XS Max cost £200 more than the S10+ in the UK.

 

[whitedragon101]

Regular S10 - $899

Note -$999

Regular Pixel 3 - $799

LG V50 - $999

None of these flagship androids are half the price.

Everyone needs to stop acting like the iPhone is ridiculously overpriced. Yes prices went up, yes it’s slightly overpriced, but androids are not far behind and certainly aren’t half the price.

Yes they are half the price.
https://www.t3.com/features/best-android-phones

Assuming you want a phone 128GB+ here are prices in UK right now. Not RRP what you can actually go on amazon right now and buy it for. This is key. Apple never drops their prices, other makers do. So real actual prices right now :

iPhone Xs £1149 (£999 base 64GB)

Galaxy S10 Plus £614
Huawei P30 Pro £754
Huawei Mate 20 Pro £499
Galaxy Note 9 £599
Google Pixel 3 XL £549 (only 64GB can't find higher, must be a micro SD thing)
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They are cheaper though and if you’re air a while the price drops. The price of the flagship iPhone never drops.

The S10+ launched in the UK for £899. You can get it cheaper now. The Xs max costs £1099 and you only get 64GB of storage compared to 128GB on the base model of the S10+ which is £200 cheaper.
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The iPhone XS Max cost £200 more than the S10+ in the UK.

You can get an S10 Plus 128GB UK version on amazon right now for £614 vs £1249 for the iPhone XS Max. Thats £635 cheaper, enough to buy another S10 Plus 128GB.

 

[whitedragon101]

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

I have been buying Apple stuff for years so I am used to paying a bit more for a laptop, phone, tablet etc for Apples quality in hardware and software. In fact in say the iPad Market they are still good value compared to a surface pro for the performance. Laptop wise other premium laptops have pushed their prices up too. But in the phone market it seems like Apple has taken a walk off the map and wondered just how crazy their price can be. £200 more for an iPhone, ok that seemed to be the deal and I was always ok with that. But when you can buy 2 Android flagships for the price of 1 iPhone things are getting crazy. Go out with £600-700 in your pocket and you can pick up a flagship android, you also get sales and Black Friday deals and unless you change your phone more than once a year you can time your upgrades with the sales. Apple never drop prices and with their prices soooo crazy high at £1149/ £1249 the Apple tax is now about £600.
I think the only thing sustaining this is the delusional way people buy phones on monthly contracts. A collusion of delusion between the manufacturer and the customer to hide the true cost of the phone. If everyone had to stump up the full cost in one hit I think the market forces would be very different.

 

[Kung]

I doubt it.

In March I got rid of my 8 for a Galaxy S10e. I actually loved the form factor and the speed.

The reliability and lack of OS cohesiveness, however, was TERRIBLE. I lasted 3 months and couldn't take it anymore.

 

[Steve121178]

Most reliable sources have already confirmed they expect Apple to keep the prices the same for the 2019 models.

 

[dontwalkhand]

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

People forget this is the company (Apple) that went as far as patenting round pizza boxes for the pizzas they sell for employees in the cafe. Apple doesn’t follow the herd.

 

[44267547]

Yes they are half the price.
https://www.t3.com/features/best-android-phones

Assuming you want a phone 128GB+ here are prices in UK right now. Not RRP what you can actually go on amazon right now and buy it for. This is key. Apple never drops their prices, other makers do. So real actual prices right now :

iPhone Xs £1149 (£999 base 64GB)

Galaxy S10 Plus £614
Huawei P30 Pro £754
Huawei Mate 20 Pro £499
Galaxy Note 9 £599
Google Pixel 3 XL £549 (only 64GB can't find higher, must be a micro SD thing)
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You can get an S10 Plus 128GB UK version on amazon right now for £614 vs £1249 for the iPhone XS Max. Thats £635 cheaper, enough to buy another S10 Plus 128GB.

OK? But you’re in a totally different market, keep in mind, prices don’t reflect what you have in your country around the world either.

Also, with some of those prices that you have listed are _not_the actual retail price that reflect discounts for a device that is almost a year old/with trade-in as well.

 

[compwiz1202]

I would say your post is spot on, and it is.

However, more than ever Apple is feeling the pressure from the market and people's unwillingness to upgrade to the flagships.

So your post stands today, but we're rapidly approaching a time frame where this logic will not apply as the used/older models will still be more than people are willing to pay.

Apple is all powerful, BUT the MARKET always wins in the end, ALWAYS!!!

So let the waiting game begin and let's see who blinks first.

Exactly. I've gotten iPhones around every other year since 3G, and I am thinking of trying to keep my Max as long as possible because prices are skyrocketing way faster than they used to. When installments are more than the plan, there is something wrong.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Apple is going for a different market for sure.

 

[BeeGood]

iPhone Xs £1149 (£999 base 64GB)

Galaxy S10 Plus £614
Huawei P30 Pro £754
Huawei Mate 20 Pro £499
Galaxy Note 9 £599
Google Pixel 3 XL £549 (only 64GB can't find higher, must be a micro SD thing)
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Like @Relentless Power said, those android phones are being heavily discounted. IMO, the reason that you see so many deals on android devices a year or less after release is because retailers know they have to move them fast. They know this because most android phones only get a year or two worth of updates.

Practically no one will be interested in buying a new Note 9 in, say, 2021, but millions of people will still be buying the XS.

By the way, this price disparity is persistent even in the used phone market. A used iPhone 8 on swappa is about $300. A used Galaxy 8...about $160. Both phones were released in 2017. What’s interesting is that almost across the board, the S8 was ranked as the better device, yet two years later, no one is willing to pay more for it.

So there is clearly additional value that goes beyond specs and hardware when comparing an iPhone to an android device.

 

[The Game 161]

Android flagships are between 800-1K so they are hardly Cheap

Many prefer IOS and is why apple can charge what they do as many will not leave due to being happy with the ecosystem.

 

[mrochester]

Yes they are half the price.
https://www.t3.com/features/best-android-phones

Assuming you want a phone 128GB+ here are prices in UK right now. Not RRP what you can actually go on amazon right now and buy it for. This is key. Apple never drops their prices, other makers do. So real actual prices right now :

iPhone Xs £1149 (£999 base 64GB)

Galaxy S10 Plus £614
Huawei P30 Pro £754
Huawei Mate 20 Pro £499
Galaxy Note 9 £599
Google Pixel 3 XL £549 (only 64GB can't find higher, must be a micro SD thing)
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You can get an S10 Plus 128GB UK version on amazon right now for £614 vs £1249 for the iPhone XS Max. Thats £635 cheaper, enough to buy another S10 Plus 128GB.

I don't see it. The S10+ model is £899 on Amazon today

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-Dual-SIM-Android-Smartphone-Prism-Black/dp/B07NWLZMGJ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=S10+&qid=1565114169&refinements=p_76:419158031&rnid=419157031&rps=1&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1

It's also £899 on the Samsung website

https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s10plus-sm-g975-hybrid-sim/SM-G975FZWDBTU/buy/

 

[akash.nu]

Android flagships are NOT half the price. Using USD. The base price for the XS is $999. Most flagships Android is around the $800-$900 range

The difference is the shelf life of an iOS flagship is a year and an android flagship is a couple of weeks, a month max.

 

[MacDaddyPanda]

Two things.

One. Whenever people ask this question they generally make the assumption that Apple is targeting the same customer as Android.

They aren't.

Apple is targeting the repeat Apple customer and the Apple customer that is looking to upgrade after sitting out for a model or two. Both customers are willing to spend to get an Apple device. Android users…not so much.

Two. Apple doesn't play this game…lowering the price to spur sales. The price is the price and if you want to pay it then Apple has a phone for you. If you don't…guess what, Apple still has a phone for you, it's just not the current flagship. This is why Apple always continues to sell the second to last model. And if the non-current flagship isn't what you want, then there is the used market.

Would you buy a used older iPhone or a used older Android?

In short, Apple is not going to do what you expect just because that's how any other business would do it.

Yeah Apple isn't going to change their business model unless it brings them the success they invision. What they're doing now makes them tons of money. If enough people stopped buying their product I'm sure they'll re-evaluate their decisions and change accordingly or die a painful financial death. That market is working for them they way they are selling their wares.