Android is still way superior

cynics

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I think iOS 7 looks great! I can't wait to get it. I just hope my 4S gets most of the additions it offers.

Thank god they are address the camera roll.

I do kind of wonder how much battery that 3D background thing will use. On Android I found this kinds of live wallpapers that use motion sensors to use quite a bit.

Now that I think about it most if not all of everything has already been done by the competition.
 

SpaceKitty

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I find phone and tablet experiences different from one another.
Yes they are but what is even more extreme is viewing the same app on an iPad and then seeing what that app looks like on a Nexus 7. So many of the apps that I used simply didn't have a tablet version but were simply scaled up phone versions.
 

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From a usability standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From a battery management standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From doing proper backups and restores, iOS kills Android. With widgets, yes Android has more. But when it comes to doing things that are seamlessly integrated, I think iOS runs circles around Android. And yes, I'm using a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7. I have used iPhones for years and iPads too. My Nexus 7 had to be replaced after 2 months or so, and do you know much of a ****ing pain in the ass it is to get Android restored from a backup?

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Oh, forgot to mention about the updates, and other things like app badges supported out of the box. Not everyone likes to rub themselves in Android jelly over those stupid widgets. And also things like Find My iPhone, which is standard in iOS but yet you have pay for in Android to get good features. Copy and paste functionality runs circles around Android, but yes Android has widgets.
 

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From a usability standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From a battery management standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From doing proper backups and restores, iOS kills Android. With widgets, yes Android has more. But when it comes to doing things that are seamlessly integrated, I think iOS runs circles around Android. And yes, I'm using a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7. I have used iPhones for years and iPads too. My Nexus 7 had to be replaced after 2 months or so, and do you know much of a ****ing pain in the ass it is to get Android restored from a backup?
LOL, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Im not even going to bother correcting you.
 

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Dammit, one more thing. The notifications are FAR superior on iOS. Try to natively set notifications on an app by app basis in Android to either give you a flip notification bar, a pop-up window, or nothing at all. Can't be done. I'm sure I'll think of some other things.

Oh, wait. Is the native calendar app in Android live like it is in iOS? But yes, Android has widgets.

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LOL, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Im not even going to bother correcting you.
Like I said, I've used all the iPhones, Apple hardware since 1980, so I'm fairly certain I've used computers longer than you've been alive. So correct me, please.
 

Sensamic

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I keep thinking the whole transparency theme or look is gonna be a real issue.

Buttons have disappeared almost everywhere. No borders around text, so to me its confusing at first glance where to click to move around an app.

Sometimes a classic feel is good. Android combines both a modern and classic look.

Look at Windows Phone 8. Despite a cool look people still dont buy it because its way too different to use day to day.

I wanted a change in UI, but not exactly like this, like Windows Phone 8. In every day use is gonna be unpleasant due to the transparency, no borders in buttons, etc.

How is it better to look at your notifications with a transparent background than a dark one?
 

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Dammit, one more thing. The notifications are FAR superior on iOS. Try to natively set notifications on an app by app basis in Android to either give you a flip notification bar, a pop-up window, or nothing at all.
How do you select the option to turn on led notifications and configure specific colors to different apps so you dont have to pick up the phone every 10 minutes to check for missed messages? Or status bar icons? I can't seem to find that in the settings. :confused:
 

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How do you select the option to turn on led notifications and configure specific colors to different apps so you dont have to pick up the phone every 10 minutes to check for missed messages? Or status bar icons? I can't seem to find that in the settings. :confused:
Probably because it ain't a ****ing setting of Android. It's a LED. It's a hardware thing, not an Android functionality. If you install Android on a device without an LED, like a Nexus 7, you still ain't got a ****ing LED, do you?
 

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Dammit, one more thing. The notifications are FAR superior on iOS. Try to natively set notifications on an app by app basis in Android to either give you a flip notification bar, a pop-up window, or nothing at all. Can't be done. I'm sure I'll think of some other things.

Oh, wait. Is the native calendar app in Android live like it is in iOS? But yes, Android has widgets.

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Like I said, I've used all the iPhones, Apple hardware since 1980, so I'm fairly certain I've used computers longer than you've been alive. So correct me, please.
When restoring from a backup is so simple on Android yet you say it was that hard i smell BS or you have no idea, take your pick.
 

Technarchy

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iOS7 basically fixes all the major issues I had with iOS6.

It addresses the issues to such an extent that I now want to try iOS7 before getting a Galaxy S4. Yesterday I was mostly convinced that I was buying a white GS4 in August.

That's how compelling I think iOS7 is personally
 

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Probably because it ain't a ****ing setting of Android. It's a LED. It's a hardware thing, not an Android functionality. If you install Android on a device without an LED, like a Nexus 7, you still ain't got a ****ing LED, do you?
Not a setting but an option available on Android. Where's that option on iOS?

You can't tell me not having the option for an led notification is superior to to having one.
 
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From a usability standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From a battery management standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From doing proper backups and restores, iOS kills Android. With widgets, yes Android has more. But when it comes to doing things that are seamlessly integrated, I think iOS runs circles around Android. And yes, I'm using a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7. I have used iPhones for years and iPads too. My Nexus 7 had to be replaced after 2 months or so, and do you know much of a ****ing pain in the ass it is to get Android restored from a backup?

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Oh, forgot to mention about the updates, and other things like app badges supported out of the box. Not everyone likes to rub themselves in Android jelly over those stupid widgets. And also things like Find My iPhone, which is standard in iOS but yet you have pay for in Android to get good features. Copy and paste functionality runs circles around Android, but yes Android has widgets.
Dammit, one more thing. The notifications are FAR superior on iOS. Try to natively set notifications on an app by app basis in Android to either give you a flip notification bar, a pop-up window, or nothing at all. Can't be done. I'm sure I'll think of some other things.

Oh, wait. Is the native calendar app in Android live like it is in iOS? But yes, Android has widgets.

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Like I said, I've used all the iPhones, Apple hardware since 1980, so I'm fairly certain I've used computers longer than you've been alive. So correct me, please.
Usability? IOS often makes you jump through so many hoops must to achieve basic tasks, Android destroys it in this regard. Battery management? IPhone has often mediocre or poor battery life, Android will give you a run down of what is using the battery so you can make adjustments if needed. Backups? Out of the box iOS offers the better backup, but this can quickly be remedied with an app, and will offer a more complete backup than iOS does. App badges? Oh no, they'll all appear in the notification tray anyway, if I am really bothered by it, a single download from the app store will remedy this. Notifications are better because you are given 1 extra option for notifications? On android you can individually configure apps not to notify you. Or have the default top notification. However with a download from the store I can have iOS style notifications, Windows Phone style notifications, and many others.

As for using apple computers since 1980, how does that have any bearing on your opinion of iOS and a droid? I once saw a guy on Neowin who claimed to have used Windows for 17 years, and he'd never heard of the alt + tab shortcut.
 
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I was impressed by the iOS 7 presentation. But I am not going to be trading in my new nexus 4 anytime soon.
 

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I think that iOS7 showed great progress today but they are now chasing Android .

Today's presentation confirmed that I made the right choice to move away from iPhone/Touch to the SG S4. Android's ecosystem, their 5" screen and my 80GB storage now gets my vote for the next 12 months.
They have been chasing Android for at least a year or so. It's just finally clear to most Apple enthusiasts. Animated weather? That was so Eclair ago that now comes to iOS 7.

Maybe iOS 9 will introduce a different keyboard choice.
 

thehustleman

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Apple catching up on who?
They aren't catching up, but chasing and trailing behind Android




I don't think Apple has any catching up to do after trying Android. Honestly, after trying a Nexus 7, my iPad has me hooked for life.

tablets don't compare in any way to the phone experience.

Apple still has the best tablet available.

Phones are another story.




Usability? IOS often makes you jump through so many hoops must to achieve basic tasks, Android destroys it in this regard. Battery management? IPhone has often mediocre or poor battery life, Android will give you a run down of what is using the battery so you can make adjustments if needed. Backups? Out of the box iOS offers the better backup, but this can quickly be remedied with an app, and will offer a more complete backup than iOS does. App badges? Oh no, they'll all appear in the notification tray anyway, if I am really bothered by it, a single download from the app store will remedy this. Notifications are better because you are given 1 extra option for notifications? On android you can individually configure apps not to notify you. Or have the default top notification. However with a download from the store I can have iOS style notifications, Windows Phone style notifications, and many others.

As for using apple computers since 1980, how does that have any bearing on your opinion of iOS and a droid? I once saw a guy on Neowin who claimed to have used Windows for 17 years, and he'd never heard of the alt + tab shortcut.



That's it in a nut shell.

Whether one, galaxy s, or Droid, android has it all


They have been chasing Android for at least a year or so. It's just finally clear to most Apple enthusiasts. Animated weather? That was so Eclair ago that now comes to iOS 7.

Maybe iOS 9 will introduce a different keyboard choice.
Yep
 

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Very unimpressed with iOS 7. iOS' UI was one of the main things that attracted me to the iPhone, I love the current iOS UI, but I don't like how iOS 7 looks at all. Literally nothing, icons, even the way folders work, I just don't like.

The only thing I liked was Airdrop which is awesome and Android needs something like this.
i believe Airdrop is proprietary, apple iphone 5 and later exclusive.

many dumb phones with bluetooth were able to share contents (not just pictures) for ages. it didn't matter what model or make the device was. as long as it had bluetooth stacks, you could share. fast forward, Android devices have wifi sharing files (images, vidoes, music anything you name. if something is on your phone, you can share). in addition to having bluetooth, wifi and now NFC is also available. they do not require a specific phone model or particular OS to share files between them.

i was baffled for a second today when apple was making fun of using NFC (which is a standard like bluetooth) in favor of their iphone 5 exclusive device dependent limited content sharing feature. but then its apple, you have to take chaeap shots at others to stay "classy". lol.
 

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From a usability standpoint, iOS still kills Android. From a battery management standpoint, iOS still kills Android.
Not according to people that have or use both.

From doing proper backups and restores, iOS kills Android.
I guess you have never used Titanium Backup for rooted users, or Carbon for non-rooted users? And all Google Apps auto-update continuously.

But when it comes to doing things that are seamlessly integrated, I think iOS runs circles around Android.
For instance? I seem to recall Android having integrated features before iOS, then Apple copied the feature. Facebook comes to mind. Quick setting toggles and Notification Center also come to mind.

And yes, I'm using a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7.
I find this a bit hard to believe considering you seem to not like Android, nor do you seem to have much knowledge on how to use it.

I have used iPhones for years and iPads too. My Nexus 7 had to be replaced after 2 months or so, and do you know much of a ****ing pain in the ass it is to get Android restored from a backup?
As I said above, takes 5 minutes to do a full restore or as little as 1 second for individual app restores. And you aren't dependent on a computer or cloud backup to do it either.

Oh, forgot to mention about the updates, and other things like app badges supported out of the box.
App badges? You mean those little red boxes with numbers in the corner of an app? Those things are great to notify you of updates when the phone is off, or when the app isn't on your homescreen aren't they? Speaking of updated apps, have you enjoyed having to click on each app individually just to see if you could update it? Must have been awesome.

Not everyone likes to rub themselves in Android jelly over those stupid widgets.
So you have weather and stock widgets turned off on your iPhone, right?

And also things like Find My iPhone, which is standard in iOS but yet you have pay for in Android to get good features.
Wrong. But nice try.

Copy and paste functionality runs circles around Android, but yes Android has widgets.
iOS is so awesome at copy and paste, you can copy a file from the directory and place it into any app you want... oh wait.
Or better yet, copy, paste or attach any file, from any folder into an email? oh wait.
Maybe you mean copy a word from any app, webpage, etc and paste it into any app or webpage you want? Both Android and iOS do that.

But here is the best part with your statement: When you reply to this thread, under additional options below your response is a box to Attach Files and Manage Attachments. Try and use that with iOS. LOL Or try the same with image shack.
 

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iOS7 basically fixes all the major issues I had with iOS6.

It addresses the issues to such an extent that I now want to try iOS7 before getting a Galaxy S4. Yesterday I was mostly convinced that I was buying a white GS4 in August.

That's how compelling I think iOS7 is personally
You were thinking of getting a S4? I thought you hated AMOLED screens.
 

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Dammit, one more thing. The notifications are FAR superior on iOS. Try to natively set notifications on an app by app basis in Android to either give you a flip notification bar, a pop-up window, or nothing at all. Can't be done. I'm sure I'll think of some other things.

Oh, wait. Is the native calendar app in Android live like it is in iOS? But yes, Android has widgets.
Notifications superior on iOS??? Funniest comment of the year, right there!

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Like I said, I've used all the iPhones, Apple hardware since 1980, so I'm fairly certain I've used computers longer than you've been alive. So correct me, please.
And what does this have to do with the cost of tea in China? Nothing. A bloated boast. And trust me, if 1980 is the best you can go back, there are tons of people on here that have been programming in BASIC, DOS, FORTRAN, etc longer than that. :rolleyes:

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You were thinking of getting a S4? I thought you hated AMOLED screens.
Pew, pew... zing. :D AMOLED is the future of displays. Everyone will have no choice but to come around.
 

Technarchy

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You were thinking of getting a S4? I thought you hated AMOLED screens.
I despise AMOLED screens, but the GS4 is just a screen.

Came close to getting one like 3 or 4 weeks ago. The only reason I don't have one is white was out of stock.
 

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iOS7 actually added functionality that I currently jailbreak to get so I'm satisfied. but everyone has their own opinion ;)
 

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Not according to people that have or use both.


I guess you have never used Titanium Backup for rooted users, or Carbon for non-rooted users? And all Google Apps auto-update continuously.


For instance? I seem to recall Android having integrated features before iOS, then Apple copied the feature. Facebook comes to mind. Quick setting toggles and Notification Center also come to mind.

I find this a bit hard to believe considering you seem to not like Android, nor do you seem to have much knowledge on how to use it.

As I said above, takes 5 minutes to do a full restore or as little as 1 second for individual app restores. And you aren't dependent on a computer or cloud backup to do it either.


App badges? You mean those little red boxes with numbers in the corner of an app? Those things are great to notify you of updates when the phone is off, or when the app isn't on your homescreen aren't they? Speaking of updated apps, have you enjoyed having to click on each app individually just to see if you could update it? Must have been awesome.


So you have weather and stock widgets turned off on your iPhone, right?


Wrong. But nice try.


iOS is so awesome at copy and paste, you can copy a file from the directory and place it into any app you want... oh wait.
Or better yet, copy, paste or attach any file, from any folder into an email? oh wait.
Maybe you mean copy a word from any app, webpage, etc and paste it into any app or webpage you want? Both Android and iOS do that.

But here is the best part with your statement: When you reply to this thread, under additional options below your response is a box to Attach Files and Manage Attachments. Try and use that with iOS. LOL Or try the same with image shack.
Applaud you for taking the time and energy to reply to him. Well done.

I think ios 7 is a good thing for dedicated ios users. That's about it. Personally would've wanted more. I don't think it's demanding AT All to ask for a better keyboard or swiping abilities, for example, but alas.

As for the new look, it's love and hate for me. I dig the transparency feel but find the icons horrendously ugly. Look at the settings icon. Look at it! If the tables were turned, I'd bet we'd find plenty of certain apple fans making fun of the android side for some of these silly looking icons. Game center is just confusing looking. The difference is at least icons can be changed on android. Ios users are stuck with these new designs whether they like it or not.
 

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iOS7 actually added functionality that I currently jailbreak to get so I'm satisfied. but everyone has their own opinion ;)
This is why the copying Apple has done is good for the users, and most Android users wouldn't give a crap about it, because Android is open source and that is what it is designed for.

What bothers people like me though, is that Apple sues people exactly for what it is doing. They are hypocrites and should be slammed publicly for their actions. I look forward to the day when they get gut checked on this sort of thing.