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Android overtakes Nokia to take the top spot among smartphone platforms

OllyW

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Sales of 32.9 million Google Android-based phones in the last quarter were enough to topple Nokia's Symbian, which had sales of 31 million...

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...okia_as_maker_of_top_smartphone_platform.html

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Not too surprising as android is on all 4 major carriers and has multiple hardware manufacturing partners as well. It's just stupid when my friends w/ android devices throw this in my face. They don't seem to realize that the iPhone was on, until now, 1 carrier, with pretty much 1-2 versions of the phone as well.
 
I can't believe that Symbian was on top this. I don't think I've ever seen a Nokia smartphone in the wild.
 
impulse462 said:
Not too surprising as android is on all 4 major carriers and has multiple hardware manufacturing partners as well. It's just stupid when my friends w/ android devices throw this in my face. They don't seem to realize that the iPhone was on, until now, 1 carrier, with pretty much 1-2 versions of the phone as well.
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This is for GLOBAL sales. The iPhone has been available on more than one carrier since November 2007. :rolleyes:

ucfgrad93 said:
I can't believe that Symbian was on top this. I don't think I've ever seen a Nokia smartphone in the wild.
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Nokia don't sell well in America but are still popular throughout the rest of the world.
 
OllyW said:
This is for GLOBAL sales. The iPhone has been available on more than one carrier since November 2007. :rolleyes:



Nokia don't sell well in America but are still popular throughout the rest of the world.
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Actually Nokia's flagship smartphones are selling terribly in Europe aswell, I have yet to see anybody holding any of their new flagship phones.

It'll be interesting to see what Nokia does at MWC, if they don't do somebody good and fast, they're ****ed!
 
So what happens in say a year or two and Android has say 70% of the worldwide market - where will the majority of developers be then? The will be on Android because that's where their customers will be. It's not because Android is any better or worse than IOS is just simple maths.

Android is going to continue to grow. The number of operators and handsets using Android will grow and above all the customer base will grow. It's only a matter of time before developers give priority to the platform where the majority of customers are (assuming they can make $$ on Android!)


lsvtecjohn3 said:
Yes they're but Apple killing Google in profits and developers still prefer to produces apps for iOS over Android.
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kevinof said:
So what happens in say a year or two and Android has say 70% of the worldwide market - where will the majority of developers be then? The will be on Android because that's where their customers will be. It's not because Android is any better or worse than IOS is just simple maths.

Android is going to continue to grow. The number of operators and handsets using Android will grow and above all the customer base will grow. It's only a matter of time before developers give priority to the platform where the majority of customers are (assuming they can make $$ on Android!)
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Nobody going to have 70% of the market. Theres too many OS out there for that to happen. Android should be the leader maybe around 50% or so but if Apple has a good 25-30's percentage developers will still develop for iOS first because they know iOS user will pay for their app unlike Android user.
 
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lsvtecjohn3 said:
kevinof said:
So what happens in say a year or two and Android has say 70% of the worldwide market - where will the majority of developers be then? The will be on Android because that's where their customers will be. It's not because Android is any better or worse than IOS is just simple maths.

Android is going to continue to grow. The number of operators and handsets using Android will grow and above all the customer base will grow. It's only a matter of time before developers give priority to the platform where the majority of customers are (assuming they can make $$ on Android!)
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Nobody going to have 70% of the market. Theres too many OS out there for that to happen. Android should be the leader maybe around 50% or so but if Apple has a good 25-30's percentage developers will still develop for iOS first because they know iOS user will pay for their app unlike Android user.
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You make way more money from in-app ads than you will from charging a pitiful 99 cents that Apple automatically takes 30 cents away, leaving you with just 69 cents. Apple should be very, very afraid of Android because it is now the one with critical mass and the momentum.
 
OllyW said:
Nokia don't sell well in America but are still popular throughout the rest of the world.
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I know that their feature or dumb phones do, but I'm still surprised to see these numbers from Nokia smartphones.

SomeDudeAsking said:
Apple should be very, very afraid of Android because it is now the one with critical mass and the momentum.
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Agreed, Android is doing quite well. I would suspect however, that they will take a hit in the US when the Verizon iPhone goes on sale.
 
kenypowa said:
Android is outselling iPhone more than 2:1. ;)
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And there is about 4:1 Android phones on twice as many U.S. carriers too. These numbers can't be compared Apples to Apples. Android is an OS, iPhone is a phone and don't say it has two because of different storage sizes its one phone. Compare any single Android phone to the iPhone. Thats the only way these things mean anything.
 
SomeDudeAsking said:
You make way more money from in-app ads than you will from charging a pitiful 99 cents that Apple automatically takes 30 cents away, leaving you with just 69 cents. Apple should be very, very afraid of Android because it is now the one with critical mass and the momentum.
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Indeed, Rovio has predicted that they will make a lot more money on their ad-supported Android version of Angry Birds, than on the paid iOS version.
 
impulse462 said:
Not too surprising as android is on all 4 major carriers and has multiple hardware manufacturing partners as well. It's just stupid when my friends w/ android devices throw this in my face. They don't seem to realize that the iPhone was on, until now, 1 carrier, with pretty much 1-2 versions of the phone as well.
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well there is more than just the US.

Also on multiple phones does not have as large of an effect of sales as some people want to think.
Over all it has marginal effect. Yes it increases sales some but the most of the sales of a given unit comes at the cost of sales of another Android phone.

From those numbers What I expect to see in the future is Microsoft numbers to jump up quite a bit because they more or less dropped off the map as they prep WP7. Now that it is out I expect to see there market share jump.
 
Smartphone doesn't mean high end, there are a lot of relatively inexpensive Symbian Series 60 phones.
 
Now if Android and Nokia can combine, that would be even better. Android may not be iOS-smooth to some of you fanboys here, but it is still far superior to Symbian. And Nokia is a great hardware manufacturer that is far better than Samsung or LG.

C'mon, Nokia. Forget Meego. Just another buggy OS nobody will care about. The OS war is getting too saturated. I believe Sony made the right move by making PlayStation Suite available to Android first. Better exposure banking on the hottest selling OS right now.
 
Savor said:
Now if Android and Nokia can combine, that would be even better. Android may not be iOS-smooth to some of you fanboys here, but it is still far superior to Symbian. And Nokia is a great hardware manufacturer that is far better than Samsung or LG.

C'mon, Nokia. Forget Meego. Just another buggy OS nobody will care about. The OS war is getting too saturated. I believe Sony made the right move by making PlayStation Suite available to Android first. Better exposure banking on the hottest selling OS right now.
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If Nokia will start using Android it will be great for today. There will be no companies to beat them.

But Nokia currently is looking for partnership with Microsoft with Mobile Windows 7 :(
 
This shouldn't be news to anyone as Android is on multiple models from multiple carriers. How could the market end up any different.

This could be dejavu of when Microsoft Licensed Windows to everyone and Apple kept the Mac OS and the hardware to itself.
 
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