Android Phones Exposed to Remote Access Vulnerability

[TLuc]

I'm just questioning your assumptions. Your "facts" are not wrong but they are incomplete and based on sources that you trust more than others. As I said, I hope you are right but I think it is better for this app to be removed to eliminate any question of doubt.

Your science fiction scenarios don't add anything of value to this conversation and actually streghten the facts and particularities I presented.

Also its irrelevant that you don't like the GrapheneOS admin, the guy really knows what's he's taking about, that's an undeniable fact. I would rather trust somebody that knows what he's talking about rather than imaginary and extremely improbable scenarios.

I don't understand why you wouldn't agree that they should just get rid of it since it is no longer being used anyway and is not in the current builds. It seems like you are more interested in protesting the criticism from iVerify and others rather than just agreeing that the app should be gone forever.

They already got rid of it in Android 15. I clearly wrote it in my previous post.
Also its not Google’s app, it's a Verizon app Google was forced to install on their Pixels in order for them to be compatible with the Verizon network.

 

[onenorth]

Also its not Google’s app, it's a Verizon app Google was forced to install on their Pixels in order for them to be compatible with the Verizon network.

So big old Google was "forced" to install the app by Verizon and then forced to remove it by iVerify. You make it sound like they are getting pushed around and have no control of it. And the GrapheneOS admin has a chip on his shoulder. It's fine to be an expert but when you trash talk others it leaves a bad taste - clearly he has an agenda too, just like iVerify has one. iVerify may have gotten something wrong but they were not wrong about the existence of Showcase and they got Google to acknowledge it. Like it or not, that's what happened. I am happy the app will be removed. You should be too.

 

[TLuc]

So big old Google was "forced" to install the app by Verizon and then forced to remove it by iVerify.

What exactly is your problem?
And the shady iVerify didn't force them to do anything, ignorant media was just spreading false information and fearmongering.

You make it sound like they are getting pushed around and have no control of it.

Look at you having a chip on your sholder.

And the GrapheneOS admin has a chip on his shoulder.

The only thing that matters is that he is correct.

It's fine to be an expert but when you trash talk others it leaves a bad taste - clearly he has an agenda too,

And what's your agenda? To ignore facts and concentrate on fearmongering?

I am happy the app will be removed. You should be too.

Again, I don't have a Pixel and my phone is incompatible with Verizon anyway, it makes 0 difference for me and anybody I know, the hole continent even, almost the entire planet actually.

 

[onenorth]

Again, I don't have a Pixel and my phone is incompatible with Verizon anyway, it makes 0 difference for me and anybody I know, the hole continent even, almost the entire planet actually.

They why are you here? If it makes zero difference?

 

[TLuc]

They why are you here? If it makes zero difference?

Because I don't like misinformation, for example the tile of the article here is clearly wrong as the app doesn't expose any attack path.
Android Phones Exposed to Remote Access Vulnerability - no they aren't

Also you keep forcing me to reply because all you care about is to ignore the facts and particularities about this app on the premise that "anything is possible no matter what", "a vulnerability is a vulnerability " so all vulnerabilities are the same. No they aren't.

 

[zarmanto]

Also you keep forcing me to reply because ...

Nobody is forcing you to do anything of the kind. You could have literally at any point simply chosen to take the high road by making your case and agreeing to disagree, realizing that you're not going to convince the majority of us to agree with you. Not that I think you actually would, mind you... but that's quite beside the point.

That said... nobody is forcing the rest of us to respond to you, either. Initially, I was just trying to help you to understand that your opinions are not actually facts, and I imagine others in this thread had similar motives. Seeing as how not a single argument has succeeded in accomplishing that goal no matter how well reasoned, and you clearly aren't going to back down until everybody else simply shuts up and gives you the last word, in spite of the obvious holes in your own arguments... I'm done letting you troll me.

As I said before... you do you.

 

[TLuc]

your opinions are not actually facts,

Says who?
And they are not my opinions or opinions they are facts. If you disagree I invite you to come with proof.

And like I've said I don't like misinformation.
If you want to help me then please stop the spread and insistence on unjustified fearmongering.

 

[onenorth]

And like I've said I don't like misinformation.
If you want to help me then please stop the spread and insistence on unjustified fearmongering.

Good luck with that. This is an open forum for discussion, so you can, and should, present your perspective and then let others do the same with respect and courtesy. It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to expect everyone to come around to your thinking. That's not how this works. Cheers.

 

[TLuc]

So you don't want to stop with the insistence on unjustified fearmongering and with ignoring the key facts and particularities of this vulnerability. Got it.

 

[onenorth]

So you don't want to stop with the insistence on unjustified fearmongering and with ignoring the key facts and particularities of this vulnerability. Got it.

Your beef is with the media, your complaint about the MacRumors tread title. I didn't write those headlines and I can't change that. You are tilting at windmills here.