Precision 3431 SFF: 1x M.2 1x 3.5 inchThat's an excellent point, thanks. I will also add the following to it:
Dell workstations: drive bays
HP Z2 Mini G4: 1x M.2 1x 2.5 inchHP workstations: drive bays
ThinkStation P330 Tiny: 2x M.2 OnlyLenovo workstations: drive bays
How extraordinarily fortunate for me that the three largest computer makers in the world and the largest retailer in the world, all cater to this weird, niche use case of mine.
Precision 3431 SFF: 1x M.2 1x 3.5 inch
HP Z2 Mini G4: 1x M.2 1x 2.5 inch
ThinkStation P330 Tiny: 2x M.2 Only
Assumptions disproven.
It isn't an assumption. Dell, HP, and Lenovo make workstations with drive bays. You even helpfully listed one of them for me.
None of them have 2 storage drive bays like you want. Two vendors have no drives
They all make workstations with two or more drive bays. This isn't disproved by listing models that don't.
Repeating what I've been saying multiple times, the 2-3 3.5 inch internal drive configuration has been taken over by USB 3 external drives.
Fair enough. I agree with you that the scenario is the most common one. It is acceptable to most people to have two or three external enclosures and the rat's nest of enclosures, AC/DC bricks, connection cables, and power cables. I've seen it many times and you are absolutely right.
FWIW, I clarified in my second post that I wanted "one or two" not "two to three". I also said "SSD+HDD". One bay would work just fine for that scenario because the SSD can go in the M.2 slot. So I believe I fit within your stated not-niche parameters.
To bring this back on topic, the Animaionic appeals to me specifically because it's an external enclosure which avoids the rat's nest. There are already external enclosures for PCie slots, M.2 storage, and 3.5" storage. What makes this one stand out to me is that it is an external enclosure mimicking a clean desktop with minimal clutter.
I hope it is successful enough to go into production and I hope it leads to models with other options that might suit me better.
To bring this back on topic, the Animaionic appeals to me specifically because it's an external enclosure which avoids the rat's nest. There are already external enclosures for PCie slots, M.2 storage, and 3.5" storage. What makes this one stand out to me is that it is an external enclosure mimicking a clean desktop with minimal clutter.
It has two PCIE slots so it look quite flexible. I think the problem is they advertised Animaionic as two graphic cards computer. You don't have to install GPUs. You can install anything. I don't mean HDDs - it would be weird in such a small enclosure but Ethernet, SATA, NVME or other I/O cards? Why not?
In the spirit of the season, I'd like to say that we are all Mac Mini fans here and I hope this Kickstarter succeeds.
... the 2018 Mac mini only supports half the RAM your existing, 10 year old Mac Pro has. I think the Mini is great, but expecting to get 10 years out of it, comparable to a Mac Pro, is pretty optimistic mate.I could easily transition my graphics card and capture card to this thing and be set for another decade
64GB is doable. I won an auction for 128GB a few years ago and I don't think I've ever used more than 75-80GB. I think 10 years with this box is fully plausible: I'm still running Sierra and might upgrade to Mojave this year, my computational needs have't grown much in the past 4 years outside of storage and a beefier GPU.... the 2018 Mac mini only supports half the RAM your existing, 10 year old Mac Pro has. I think the Mini is great, but expecting to get 10 years out of it, comparable to a Mac Pro, is pretty optimistic mate.
Kickstarter.. big nope here. Been screwed over too many times by Kickstarter vaporware projects.
3.5"?
just let them die already
not to mention this thing is promising what It cannot deliver.
good luck pushing 2 video cards and 4 nVME ssd's over 2 TB3 controllers. not even close to enough bandwidth.
I have tried such a setup using 2 egpu's with usb c ssd's on second ports. tanked egpu bandwidth.
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that will never happen. enterprise uses these still very mainstream. google , amazon , you name it.
Very different use case though.
Sorry I should have selectively quoted. I was replying to this part specifically:and what would that be ?
its an expansion bay , you cannot even use a single ssd in tandem with 2 5700's without performance loss. nothing to do with use cases.
they would be splitting those 2 slots over 2 controllers, the nvme ssd's would be left with the bandwidth residing on those spare controller ports. any ssd access would greatly reduce video card bandwidth.
that will never happen. enterprise uses these still very mainstream. google , amazon , you name it.
Sorry I should have selectively quoted. I was replying to this part specifically:
not to mention this thing is promising what It cannot deliver.
good luck pushing 2 video cards and 4 nVME ssd's over 2 TB3 controllers. not even close to enough bandwidth.